Please help a confused new bottom

[HardnThick]

I’m embarrassed to ask this but if I don’t open up here, I’ll never ask anyone else.

 

A few months ago I bottomed for the first time. To my great surprise, I really liked it. This is where my questions begin.

 

As a top my hygiene concerns were basic. A good shower, tooth paste and mouthwash were about it.

 

As a bottom, though, what do you do when an unplanned opportunity happens? Do you excuse yourself and disappear into the bathroom for forty-five minutes, fleets enema bottle in hand? And then shower again, of course? This seems to be a mood killer for sure.

 

Or do you douche every time there’s even a possibility of an encounter? Or for that matter, every time you have a bowel movement? Isn’t there a health risk to thus clean yourself out too often?

 

I will be grateful for your experiences and suggestions.

[uwsman2]

If you are planning ahead for an evening of (possible) sex, it is prudent to clean out before you go out or welcome a guest.

If a spontaneous opportunity presents itself and you haven't cleaned out, hope for the best. Depending on the situation, you may at least be able to hit the bathroom quickly before making out and do a thorough wipe. If the circumstances lend themselves to showering together, that can help. I think a top has to understand that a spontaneous encounter did not leave you the opportunity to do more.

And you can clean out with warm water. Repeated use of fleets or any other enema product on a frequent basis is probably very hard on the inner lining of your anus.

[down_to_business]

1) There is a definite health risk to cleaning out too often. When you use chemical enemas, it kills off the 'good bacteria' as well. Occasionally, this shouldn't cause problems but if you are doing it 3 times a day.. well big problem!

 

2) I am not a doctor, but I read that its healthier to use room temperature water instead of harsh chemicals. The other benefit to using water over Fleet is that it does not dry you out near as much.

 

3) Possibly try excusing yourself for a few minutes to clean out and then take a shower together. Lots of fun can be had in a shower.

[josephga]

imo anal sex can't be spontaneous or unplanned. If you do a real deep cleaning that should be done in advance like an hour to two hours b4. There is another option iv heard of some bottoms occasionally using the female condom which is inserted into the bottom. the top then doesn't have to wear anything and the female condom prevents anything from leaking out.

[+ Tygerscent]

I douche a lot~ Carry my red enema bag with me everywhere while traveling. I mean not out to dinner or anything but pack it in with my luggage. I do the hygiene thing before every play session for the most part.

Forget about Fleets enemas etc. Go to the dollar store and buy them there or big lots or someplace and buy the case if you really want to go that route but don;t buy them for the Fleets solution inside. Buy them for the bottle. Dump the contents out, rinse the bottle and use cool water to rinse with. It's small and you can carry it around somewhat discretely.

Refrain from using warm or hot water. Warm will just get your body moving and that could lead to "the drop" sometime later during play.

I actually use only cold cold cold water when I rinse myself.

I've got a whole system down but it can keep me clean for a long time~

I've taught and demoed to/for a bunch of guys on how to rinse and good butt hygiene including what to do if they get hemorrhoids, fissures, prolaps all of that...

The best rinse is using the red enema bag.

Water bottles, fleets, bottles, shower shots, etc tend to allow water to become trapped up inside of your colon and it can drop later.

The red bag offers easily controlled water pressure and fun nozzle options.

For play enemas with guys, I have some real snazzy specialty nozzles like the Bardex rectal caths and black medical nozzles specific to various kinds of enema play~

There are lots of special recipes I know of for butt rinses that can do everything from sooth your inner butt 'n' being, to fire you up or clean you deep to detox your colon, to bring back the balance if you get bad butt somehow, (diarrhea after antibiotics or being sick or just bad food/diet). I have recipes for making your butt scented nicely for play~ Mountain Fresh or whatever~

There's also the Escort/bttm diet~ It's a variation on a theme thing that people tailor to their own needs but, there's certain foods you want to avoid if you are out and planning to play later, (high fats, a big ol' salad, things that soften your stools or increase transit time of feces through your digestive tract~). There are tricks you can do like eat binding foods, drink lots of coffee or tea to bind stools, eat less or wait to eat altogether until after you play~

If you have questions you are welcome to write to me.

 

Tyger!

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1) There is a definite health risk to cleaning out too often. When you use chemical enemas, it kills off the 'good bacteria' as well. Occasionally, this shouldn't cause problems but if you are doing it 3 times a day.. well big problem!

 

2) I am not a doctor, but I read that its healthier to use room temperature water instead of harsh chemicals. The other benefit to using water over Fleet is that it does not dry you out near as much.

 

3) Possibly try excusing yourself for a few minutes to clean out and then take a shower together. Lots of fun can be had in a shower.

[josephga]

don't bottom but I do have one of the red bags after having colon cancer in 03 I started doing a 2 quart deep cleanse every other day. you can get the red bag at most drug stores for about 15 bucks. I have to use room temp or warm water. I found that cold water gave me cramps really bad. if you use the red bag do it in advance because Ive found it can take up too an hour for all the water to work its way down.

[zeferrelli]

a lot of fiber in the diet helps immensely

[rvwnsd]

I don't have unplanned anal sex because the prep work kills the mood, as you mentioned in your post. I suppose it could work if the top was into giving enemas, though.

[+ Tygerscent]

Of~ I C... ya... if you go deep w cold water it will give you cramps~ Cold water works for play clean situations. Tepid water for deeper cleaning~ Good point Josephga

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don't bottom but I do have one of the red bags after having colon cancer in 03 I started doing a 2 quart deep cleanse every other day. you can get the red bag at most drug stores for about 15 bucks. I have to use room temp or warm water. I found that cold water gave me cramps really bad. if you use the red bag do it in advance because Ive found it can take up too an hour for all the water to work its way down.

[+ Tygerscent]

Luuuuuv cleaning my boys~ Grrarrrr~

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I don't have unplanned anal sex because the prep work kills the mood, as you mentioned in your post. I suppose it could work if the top was into giving enemas, though.

[dfw2sfo]

I don't douche

 

I don't douche and in all my years have not had problems.

[Guest Ca Robert]

Bottoms definitely need to clean out before meeting clients. I've had several experiences where the lack of good bowel hygeine ruined an encounter. I had this happen recently, and felt as if I wasted my money. As a customer, I certainly don't mind the few minutes (or more) a bottom needs to do this.

[rvwnsd]

Luuuuuv cleaning my boys~ Grrarrrr~

Tyger!

 

Mental note recorded.

[doitb4ugo]

I don't douche and in all my years have not had problems.

 

It seems that everyone is different. I douche and sometimes still have problems....Several friends have suggested ImodiumD and it seems to help....when I meet an escort, I never have confidence that I am still clean or do not have some water to release at an inopportune time....It has ruined more than a few meetings...both the embarrasment and the $$.

[down_to_business]

It seems that everyone is different. I douche and sometimes still have problems....Several friends have suggested ImodiumD and it seems to help....when I meet an escort, I never have confidence that I am still clean or do not have some water to release at an inopportune time....It has ruined more than a few meetings...both the embarrasment and the $$.

 

I have had success with taking an ImodiumD (or any generic equivalent with Loperamide HCL) as well. Took it one time when I had 'problems' the day before I was supposed to bottom. Not only did it clear up my 'problem', I was squeaky clean for the next two days. While I had no medical basis to prove a cause and effect relationship, I have been taking one pill before bottoming ever since. Just remember to drink plenty of water. The only 'negative' side effect I ever noticed was occassional constipation that went away a day or two later.

[raulgmanzo]

I usually top so almost never use an before a seeing a client. But I am versatile and enjoy flip fucking so now and then I get fucked often spontaneously. Usually with no more preparation or simply a 1 minute cleaning in the bathroom using my finger and a bit of soap and water. Rarely has it been a problem. If I have any doubt I will use a female condom. Which is awesome anyway because the bowels don't get all pumped up with air and it is often nicer for the top to have his dick in contact with the lube.

 

But in general I like to have had a bowel movement sometime prior to sex. I feel that even as a top it feels more comfortable to be light and clean. If one has a healthy diet and is feeling good then usually a bowel movement followed by a soapy finger out to be enough for sundry bottoming.

 

I have found that as a top I often find the bottom having a bit of mess even when he has cleaned out. Also sometimes after cleaning out there is water (and other things) hiding higher up which get dislodged.

 

While I don't care for shit it is no big deal. Anyone who tops a lot has probably encountered it. As they say 'shit happens'. While I agree that it can hurt the momentum it doesn't have to be a mood killer.

 

When I'm fucking and the bottom gets messy I may if it is minor, grab a tissue or towel, discreetly wipe and keep going. Otherwise I simply say something like "oops we're getting a bit messy" and the bottom goes to the bathroom to take care of it which may not require more than a minute with a soapy finger or such.

 

If the bottom gets messy and is embarrased I will try to minimize that and let him know that he need not worry at all.

 

Now if one is planning serious assplay, get fisted, use long dildoes or really get fucked long, and hard then yeah go ahead and cleanout. Hopefully you are not doing that everyday but for a special occasion it may be worth even starting the day before with regard to diet, eating and toilet schedule.

[Bosguy]

Raul and Tyger,

 

Your input is very informative and realistic as you both usually are, but I still have a couple of questions. I am beginning to really enjoy the bottoming experience more and particularly for longer periods of time and higher intensity. I have been a little hesitant in the past about bottoming out of fear that I would not be clean enough. My questions are

 

1. Is there a better daily diet that should be followed?

 

2. Many times we go out for dinner before the dessert. In general, what should you eat if you probably will be bottoming?

 

3. Since I enjoy a lot of time spent with foreplay, what is the best timeframe for cleansing?

 

Thanks guys

 

Boston Bill

[Tighty]

I douche a lot~ Carry my red enema bag with me everywhere while traveling. I mean not out to dinner or anything but pack it in with my luggage. I do the hygiene thing before every play session for the most part.

Forget about Fleets enemas etc. Go to the dollar store and buy them there or big lots or someplace and buy the case if you really want to go that route but don;t buy them for the Fleets solution inside. Buy them for the bottle. Dump the contents out, rinse the bottle and use cool water to rinse with. It's small and you can carry it around somewhat discretely.

Refrain from using warm or hot water. Warm will just get your body moving and that could lead to "the drop" sometime later during play.

I actually use only cold cold cold water when I rinse myself.

I've got a whole system down but it can keep me clean for a long time~

I've taught and demoed to/for a bunch of guys on how to rinse and good butt hygiene including what to do if they get hemorrhoids, fissures, prolaps all of that...

The best rinse is using the red enema bag.

Water bottles, fleets, bottles, shower shots, etc tend to allow water to become trapped up inside of your colon and it can drop later.

The red bag offers easily controlled water pressure and fun nozzle options.

For play enemas with guys, I have some real snazzy specialty nozzles like the Bardex rectal caths and black medical nozzles specific to various kinds of enema play~

There are lots of special recipes I know of for butt rinses that can do everything from sooth your inner butt 'n' being, to fire you up or clean you deep to detox your colon, to bring back the balance if you get bad butt somehow, (diarrhea after antibiotics or being sick or just bad food/diet). I have recipes for making your butt scented nicely for play~ Mountain Fresh or whatever~

There's also the Escort/bttm diet~ It's a variation on a theme thing that people tailor to their own needs but, there's certain foods you want to avoid if you are out and planning to play later, (high fats, a big ol' salad, things that soften your stools or increase transit time of feces through your digestive tract~). There are tricks you can do like eat binding foods, drink lots of coffee or tea to bind stools, eat less or wait to eat altogether until after you play~

If you have questions you are welcome to write to me.

 

Tyger!

[email protected]

971.400.2633

http://www.tygerscent.biz

http://www.daddyreviews.com/review/tyger_portland

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Can someone please explain what the red bag is? Maybe a link to amazon.com or something.

[Steven_Draker]

Can someone please explain what the red bag is? Maybe a link to amazon.com or something.

 

Voila ... here's a link for you, Tighty

 

http://www.amazon.com/Healthcare-Combination-Douche-Enemasystem-Bottle/dp/B000BH8BL2

 

On a side note while cleaning your ass using a finger and a bit of soap and water works for Raul, it doesn't work for most "normal" people.

 

It's paramount to douche before bottoming.

 

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[Tighty]

Thanks Steven! Red bag is in my amazon checkout cart now.

[Jscott]

Voila ... here's a link for you, Tighty

 

http://www.amazon.com/Healthcare-Combination-Douche-Enemasystem-Bottle/dp/B000BH8BL2

 

On a side note while cleaning your ass using a finger and a bit of soap and water works for Raul, it doesn't work for most "normal" people.

 

It's paramount to douche before bottoming.

 

http://swedishteen.nu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/douche_package-265x500.jpg

 

So douches are superior to enemas? I loathe checking bags when I travel; I can just imagine one of those in my carry-on, lol...

[+ Tygerscent]

I've been hired to teach various techniques for douching and hygiene~

There's a lot to know and each person is different~

Diet, technique, what to use for what kind if play and who and when~

Some supplies links, (although you can get things on amazon I imagine)~

1). http://www.enemasupply.com/

2). http://www.klystra.com/store/enema-bags?vmcchk=1

 

Tyger~

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[Tighty]

Is this good? Never seen anything like it.

http://www.enemasupply.com/enemeez30ct.html

 

Seriously someone should put up bottom hygiene webinar online. I'm sure lots of people would pay to watch.

[+ Tygerscent]

Perhaps consider glycerine suppositories~?

 

Tyger~

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Ty in Portland on Daddys Review's

 

Travel: Northwest: (PDX, Seattle, Bend, Salem) Most of August.

LA: mid August.

Mid West: October and possibly August.

Iceland, Amsterdam, Brussels, Brugge: Sept. 4th - 24th

[Steven_Draker]

So douches are superior to enemas?

 

I don't know about superior.

 

My thought was the following: if you're planning to bottom it's important to douche using fleet enema (available at Walgreens, CVS) or one of these douche bulbs to ensure a good experience.