Playing the game from a position of power!

[Michael Wayne]

May I first propose a totally new take on the escort profession before I ask my question? Let's start playing the game from a position of power and strength! What I mean is this: One thing that I always tell my new clients is this (either in person or over the phone) , "I don't need the money and so I can be careful and picky as to who I see and when and where I see them." You should see the look on some of their faces when I say this. Many of them think that I (you) NEED their money to pay rent, car , food, etc. thus they feel they have some power over you to force you to give them a deal or do something you are uncomfortable doing or, to be blunt, to give them an excuse to be rude. Here is the QUESTION to my fellow escorts: HAVE YOU SAVED UP ENOUGH TO TAKE A YEAR , 2 OR 3 OFF? If no, then how about a month or two or even a week or two? If your answer is no then ask yourself ,"Why not?" Best advice the old veteran can give you young guys out there is this" Learn to live on 50% of what you make and save the rest. period. no discussion needed. After just a matter of months you will be in a position of POWER. Power does not mean attitude or being rude- no, just the opposite. My wallet and bank account are overflowing so I have no need to be mad or angry at anyone or over anything. I see WHO I want and do what I want and set my hours and do only what I want to do all while being a really nice guy. Finally, a young escort called me a few days ago in a panic over the economy and cancellation epidemic and the ongoing RATE WARS (the retro 1970's rates alot of boys are now charging all over the place). I asked him what he made a month and he said 4 or 5 grand. I asked him what he is spending a month- you guessed it: 4 or 5 grand! Doing that he will never achiev POWER and will always depend on the next call for his next meal. Guys I don't mean to be rude , i mean to help, if this is you then you are not far above the common street hustler who will do anything to get that next trick. Those are the boys who are used, abused and thrown out like yesterday's garbage. cut out cigareetes, alcohol and drugs and you can save 1,000 a month. After a year you got 12 grand tucked away. POWER! Power! ABSOLUTE POWER! Churchill famously said, "The most powerful word a man can ever learn is the word NO!" You don't need a 2,500 a month apartment or a 700 dollar a month car or the latest designer clothes or to fly first class. Now, I have all of that but it came to me over time, over alot of years. Hope I have helped guys. http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[Electra 225]

Well, as a client, who plays (and pays) from the ULTIMATE postion of power: I am very, very selective and, after reading this particular missal as well as the one about Houston, I can assure Mr. Mikey that I will use MY ultimate position of power to never, ever hire him for any reason--he can stay in NOLA and rip off the tourists there. Fortunately, there are other gentlemen in NOLA who know about service and accomodating clients with five star service. Obviously, Mr. Mikey hasn't a clue.

[seeker630]

Well, as a client, who plays (and pays) from the ULTIMATE postion of power: I am very, very selective and, after reading this particular missal as well as the one about Houston, I can assure Mr. Mikey that I will use MY ultimate position of power to never, ever hire him for any reason--he can stay in NOLA and rip off the tourists there. Fortunately, there are other gentlemen in NOLA who know about service and accomodating clients with five star service. Obviously, Mr. Mikey hasn't a clue.

Obviously he offended you and you have every right to not hire him, but I'm curious as to how you reached the conclusion that he 'rips off tourists' or that he delivers inferior service?

 

I'm also curious curious as to your 'ULTIMATE' position of power - does this mean no one has the rght to say 'no' to you?

[cany10011]

Mikey's advice of living below one's means can be applied to both clients and escorts alike. I like his attitude and appreciate his insights.

 

Obviously he offended you and you have every right to not hire him, but I'm curious as to how you reached the conclusion that he 'rips off tourists' or that he delivers inferior service?

[cany10011]

Yes, clients can pick and choose but a good attitude goes a long way. A haughty attitude that says I am the one paying you so you have to do what I want probably doesn't ensure many repeat visits.

[JoeyBryant]

One thing that I always tell my new clients is this (either in person or over the phone) , "I don't need the money and so I can be careful and picky as to who I see and when and where I see them." You should see the look on some of their faces when I say this. Many of them think that I (you) NEED their money to pay rent, car , food, etc. thus they feel they have some power over you to force you to give them a deal or do something you are uncomfortable doing or, to be blunt, to give them an excuse to be rude.

 

Although I understand the jist of what you are saying, I don't quite agree with this. I mean seriously, so what if someone is needing a client to make the ends meet. I mean, everyone who makes income is depending on someone to make ends meet. They are wanting a sale, or a deal or something.

 

I don't think anyone needs to tell a client that they aren't needy. The very way you present yourself should speak volumes. The hotel you're in, the type of apartment you do your incalls in, the way you look (healthy as opposed to thin and malnutritioned) should all be indicators.

 

I've not had anyone be rude or try and force me to do something because I failed to let them know I can be picky and don't need their money. I think a better way is to appreciate and thank them sincerely for the money and then move on. You don't have to do anything you're not comfortable with or put up with rudeness.

[EZEtoGRU]

Mikey's advice of living below one's means can be applied to both clients and escorts alike. I like his attitude and appreciate his insights.

+1 One of the core economic mistakes most people make is not consistently saving at least 15-20% from their weekly/monthly/annual wages for the rainy day or retirement. People are so focused on the here and now and instant purchasing gratification.

 

Mikey's advice is sound for anyone in any profession. Applies just as well to an escort as it does to a manager at Ford Motor as it does to a flight attendant at American Airlines or anyone else. If you cannot save at least 15% then you are living too large a life and need to downsize.

[TopGuy4940]

As someone who has used escorts over the last 12 years, I have never assumed that an escort was desperate for money nor have I been rude to an escort. The only things I assume when hiring an escort is that he will perform as we agree beforehand and that we will both treat each other with respect. Am an affectionate guy by nature so when I first meet an escort I gave him a hug and spend a few minutes to get acquainted so we both can develop some comfort. I am as concerned about his comfort and feelings of safety as I am for myself. As a result, out of the 12 years of experience with escorts, I've only one bad experience and just a few so/so experiences. I love hiring escorts because it's like going to the candy store and being able to pick the ones you want. Though it doesn't satisfy all my needs for intimacy, it is a job after all, it does satisfy me when I may long for companionship and for hot sex.

[Michael Wayne]

Daddy has taught me over the last year being a member here to always be nice, positive and to keep a good attitude even in the face of a post like ELECTRAS. I shall act accordingly and wish ELECTRA a great weekend while sending him all my best wishes. I also forgive you, sir, for your totally untrue slanderous lies. I have NEVER stolen a cent from anyone or ripped off a tourist- GOD FORBID! I encourage all to read my reviews on DADDYS (all of them) and my reviews on m4rn (all of them) . Hope everyone is having as good a weekend as I am.

[orbital sander]

As someone who has used escorts over the last 12 years, I have never assumed that an escort was desperate for money nor have I been rude to an escort. The only things I assume when hiring an escort is that he will perform as we agree beforehand and that we will both treat each other with respect. Am an affectionate guy by nature so when I first meet an escort I gave him a hug and spend a few minutes to get acquainted so we both can develop some comfort. I am as concerned about his comfort and feelings of safety as I am for myself. As a result, out of the 12 years of experience with escorts, I've only one bad experience and just a few so/so experiences. I love hiring escorts because it's like going to the candy store and being able to pick the ones you want. Though it doesn't satisfy all my needs for intimacy, it is a job after all, it does satisfy me when I may long for companionship and for hot sex.

 

What he said...

[justaguy]

One thing that I always tell my new clients is this (either in person or over the phone) , "I don't need the money and so I can be careful and picky as to who I see and when and where I see them." You should see the look on some of their faces when I say this.

 

Mikey, a commitment to mutual respect is a good thing. However, the way you've phrased it is not. Telling me as a potential client whom you have never met that you don't need my business is one sure way not to get my business. It sets a negative tone before anything has even started. Given the fact that your services aren't cheap, that tone is one I'm going to avoid from the get go. If it works for you, then it works. That would be my perspective.

[down_to_business]

And the winner of the annual 2011 Ryan Cade memorial Poster of the Year award goes to ....................................

 

[BaronArtz]

Mikey, I am sort of agreeing with what you are saying but you could express it a bit more tactfully to potential clients. Instead of saying 'no', you can say something like 'not available at the moment, but thanks'. Remember, popularity is a fleeting concept. People you say 'no' to on your way up will remember that when you are on your way down ...

 

Of course, that doesn't mean you need to say 'yes' to everything. Just be a bit tactful about it.

[zeyfur]

I am struggling to comprehend what Mikey is getting at. He advocates escorts "playing the game from a position of power" yet in another thread, he points out the negatives about another escort asking for a two hour minimum. So it is not ok for another escort to play from a position of power, then !

[rickp]

For myself, being in a position of power is something that happens more internally, rather than something that is expressed outwardly. I very much agreed with Mikey's comments on saving and living below one's means; and I always strive to live in that mindset. It is because of this financial mindset, that if I am presented with an appointment that I cannot take, I don't have to feel stressed about turning away business. Not that I would ever say that to a client, but I can feel secure that I don't have to take a call simply because I need the money right then. I am allowed to be busy, on vacation, have other plans, because I have planned for that. To me, that's what a position of power means.

 

On the flip side of that coin, I do sometimes find myself being stressed about periods of down time. When I am completely available, and no one calls, i start to feel unproductive. It's not that I'm worried about where my next meal will come from, it's that I actually enjoy the interactions with my clients; the conversations as well as the physical.

[Michael Wayne]

glorious comments all. Again, this type of constructive dialouge is what this forum should be about (and having fun!) Ok, let me respond to all the comments: 1. JOEY- you do play from power man and you are a credit to the biz. You are an example of what I am saying. 2. Rick P.- brilliant as usual, and, oh my, so HOT! 3.Zeyfur- I did not mean to imply any negativity about 2 hours. I was saying that Brandon is example A about playing from a position of power. I like what he is doing not because he is so adorable but because he is right. What I said was that I can see problems in REQUIRING a two hour minimum both from the client's perspective (sometimes) and from the escort's perspective (sometimes) 4.BaronArtz- When I convey to a client that I am in a financial position to where I don't have to escort it is said VERY NICELy and I thank them for their business. 5. Just a guy- actually every client I have ever said it to loves it. I say it with GREAT RESPECT. Most clients don't want a broke, needy escort. (I said most, not all) They want a succeessful one. 6. Down to business- As a new forum member I honestly have no idea who or what a Ryan Cade is. I suppose I could research the archives on a rainy day but since we have had no rain in new orleans in two months I think I would rather lay by the pool. Just callin em like I see um....Mikey