Married guys cheating on their wives with gay escorts

[twinkboylover28]

Being gay doesn't really just have to do with cruising for sex. And I think a lot of kids are way more forgiving these days when their dads/moms come out.

 

How forgiving these days are they of their mom/dad cheating on their spouse?

[twinkboylover28]

Maybe not, but they can be a hell of a lot of fun.

 

lol you guys really just done give a f***

[twinkboylover28]

Wouldn’t life be wonderful if there were easy answers to life’s difficult questions? It is, I’m afraid, far too easy for those of us who have never been in other people’s shoes to second guess them and to judge them. My first inclination is to state categorically that I would NEVER cheat on my spouse or partner. I would terminate the relationship first and then move on – sounds great right! Well I have never been in this type of situation which, in the end, makes my pontifications worthless. I am NOT operating under the same constraints as, for example, a man with a wife and children who at heart is gay. The real question that must be answered is what is best for everybody involved. Should the guy dump his wife (spouse) and walk away from his children? Should the guy deny himself real sexual gratification? Should the guy try to maintain his family and seek the sexual gratification he needs outside his marriage? ONLY the person involved can answer these questions. It behooves the rest of us to support that person as best we can and try to understand the constraints under which he is living. I, for one, will withhold judgment and add that there but for the grace of “god” go I.

 

Stop being a pansy. If you're cheating on your wife then obviously you are not committed to her, and therefor your actions pretty much show you don't respect or love her. God has nothing to do with this. You should get a divorce and stop betraying your wife.

[NYTomcat]

Wouldn’t life be wonderful if there were easy answers to life’s difficult questions? It is, I’m afraid, far too easy for those of us who have never been in other people’s shoes to second guess them and to judge them. My first inclination is to state categorically that I would NEVER cheat on my spouse or partner. I would terminate the relationship first and then move on – sounds great right! Well I have never been in this type of situation which, in the end, makes my pontifications worthless. I am NOT operating under the same constraints as, for example, a man with a wife and children who at heart is gay. The real question that must be answered is what is best for everybody involved. Should the guy dump his wife (spouse) and walk away from his children? Should the guy deny himself real sexual gratification? Should the guy try to maintain his family and seek the sexual gratification he needs outside his marriage? ONLY the person involved can answer these questions. It behooves the rest of us to support that person as best we can and try to understand the constraints under which he is living. I, for one, will withhold judgment and add that there but for the grace of “god” go I.

 

And this is why u and DD are my idea of friends in heaven. With rick of course for support comic relief and a great shag.

[twinkboylover28]

You assume alot. Every spouse is a good person.... every spouse is innocent.... every couple still has sex to risk STD. That the spouse doesn't know. That he or she isn't happy to allow the cheating to keep the relationship they value more. You are personalizing and therefore demonizing every married man who hires based on your experience as a victim. I don't know your sitch I will assume you dated a bastard who was out screwing around and filling your head with promises of faithful monogamy. That is sometimes the case ... but not always and to label every escort and married man the way you have is painting with a broad brush. Im sure you can find hundreds of stories here on the forum in fact I've written at least one in a similar thread and have read dozens where your suppositions are dead wrong.

 

I've always felt this way. Being a "victim" has absolutely nothing to do with it. I felt this way 20 years ago when I was 16. Dude ,a 12-year-old knows that cheating is wrong. Wake up. You're doing the classical game of blaming the messenger for being so critical. Newsflash! Every spouse is NOT innocent. A spouse that cheats is NOT innocent. I have assumed nothing hun. A couple is NOT at risk for STD's unless theyre CHEATING on each other. LOL

 

Cheating is the most personal betrayal, so ofcourse it's personal for all involved. I guess I'll just be labelled "self righteous" on this gay escort message board for beleiving a MARRIED man in a long-term, committed, monogamous relationship is a SCUM BAG for cheating on his innocent wife and kids behind their back ....without her knowledge, and putting her at risk for STD's and HIV.... and not to mention of devastating her and the kids. Im such a "self righteous" prick!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease...

 

If you're going to betray and hurt someone dont do it to your soulmate/wife. Do it to your worst enemy. I dont even see how you can possibly defend cheating, as if it's totally legit.

 

"Hey Bob im going out with this how guy i just hired from rentboy friday nite, while the wife is out baking cookies."

 

What must I be thinking? How dare I criticize? Im sooooo "self righteous." Someone gag me with a spoon. Ugh.

[twinkboylover28]

It sounds to me like your shrink isn't helping you to put your anger and hurt behind you and get on with your life.

 

Priceless. Can I get a refund?

[twinkboylover28]

Ok I take it back. Im sorry you are in so much pain. But that pain is making you the self righteous I will avoid. I am sorry for your experiences. My further attempts here will only fall on deaf ears. Good luck to you tbl.

 

I was talking to Diverdan, hence the reason I directly quoted him! This has nothing to do with me.

[Rick Munroe]

lol you guys really just done give a f***

 

Hey, I got you to "lol." We're making progress! (btw, I think we're allowed to say "fuck" on this site)

[Rick Munroe]

How forgiving these days are they of their mom/dad cheating on their spouse?

 

I believe the last study I read indicated it was this much:

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/4007330216_d972062f64_z.jpg

[NYTomcat]

I've always felt this way. Being a "victim" has absolutely nothing to do with it. I felt this way 20 years ago when I was 16. Dude ,a 12-year-old knows that cheating is wrong. Wake up. You're doing the classical game of blaming the messenger for being so critical. Newsflash! Every sposue is NOT innocent. A spouse that cheats is NOT innocent. i assume nothing hun. A couple is NOT at risk for STD's unless theyre CHEATING o neach other. LOL

 

Cheating is the most personal betrayal, so ofcourse it's personal for all involved. I guess I'll just be labelled "self righteous" on this gay escort message board for beleiving a MARRIED man in a long term, committed, monogamous relationship is a SCUM BAG for cheating on his innocent wife and kids behind their back ,without her knowledge, and putting her at risk for STD's and HIV and of devastating her and the kids.

 

if you're going to betray and hurt someone ,dont do it to your soulmate/wife. Do it to your worst enemy. I dont even see how yo ucan possibly defend cheating like it's totally legit. "Hey Bob im going out with this how guy i hired from rentboy friday nite while the wife is out baking cookies."

 

What must I be thinking? How dare I criticize? Im sooooo "self right eous." Gag me wit ha spoon. Ugh.

 

As I said "deaf ears" we can simply agree to disagree. Your point is made as is mine enjoy your day

[twinkboylover28]

And this is why u and DD are my idea of friends in heaven. With rick of course for support comic relief and a great shag.

 

yeah but who's gonna be there for you when life f***s you?

your significant other in your long-term committed relationship.

sure getting a "great shag" is fun, but in the end it's the real relationship that will always be there for you, and you wont have to pay them

[Rick Munroe]

And this is why u and DD are my idea of friends in heaven. With rick of course for support comic relief and a great shag.

 

That works for me, TC! Especially the part about the shag...I'm a big fan of 1970s decor.

[NYTomcat]

I believe the last study I read indicated it was this much:

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/4007330216_d972062f64_z.jpg

 

Lmao. Omg Rick you are just the most irreverent asshole. I love it don't ever change and I will happily share an eternity in hell with you. Hahahaha.

[josephga]

When I spoke with a therapist he didn't really talk much about the cheater. I was extremely depressed blaming myself for having cancer. therapist told me a it had nothing to do with it that. a person cheats because that's who they are. they would do it regardless of who they dated that the issues is with them and not their partner. After that the therapist never mentioned them again. the sessions were more about trying to heal ones self, self esteem self growth,

[Rick Munroe]

sure getting a "great shag" is fun

 

Just ask Jane Fonda. I really think the shag was her best hairdo. Even in a mug shot.

 

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[twinkboylover28]

Hey, I got you to "lol." We're making progress! (btw, I think we're allowed to say "fuck" on this site)

 

Now I understand the nickname

[Rick Munroe]

Lmao. Omg Rick you are just the most irreverent asshole. I love it don't ever change and I will happily share an eternity in hell with you. Hahahaha.

 

That is the ultimate compliment! And I think hell would be fun with you.

[NYTomcat]

yeah but who's gonna be there for you when life f***s you?

your significant other in your long-term committed relationship.

sure getting a "great shag" is fun, but in the end it's the real relationship that will always be there for you, and you wont have to pay them

 

I guess because of my amoral non judgemental attitude I have a lot of people. Even my former spouse whom I love and she loves me in return. You see im not alone and have no fear of that in the least. Thank you for worrying about me though.

[twinkboylover28]

When I spoke with a therapist he didn't really talk much about the cheater. I was extremely depressed blaming myself for having cancer. therapist told me a it had nothing to do with it that. a person cheats because that's who they are. they would do it regardless of who they dated that the issues is with them and not their partner. After that the therapist never mentioned them again. the sessions were more about trying to heal ones self, self esteem self growth,

 

Thank you Josephga! That is so true. Once a cheater ALWAYS a cheater. For example, take your average rapist. No matter how much prison time you give a rapist, and no matter how much therapy you give a rapist, a rapist will never in his lifetime be able to love or respect another woman, because once a rapist ALWAYS a rapist. It's never the fault of the woman he raped that she got raped. The rapist would rape most anyone. A rapist cant really be cured, as the recidivism rate is veryhigh....much like a cheater.

 

"I raped that woman because she deserved it."

 

Oh by the way...HOW DARE I JUDGE A RAPIST???...I'm so damn "self righteous"!!

[Rick Munroe]

and to label every escort and married man the way you have is painting with a broad brush.

 

I think this was the best point in the whole discussion. Every relationship is different and a personal matter between those 2 (or more) people.

[twinkboylover28]

I guess because of my amoral non judgemental attitude I have a lot of people. Even my former spouse whom I love and she loves me in return. You see im not alone and have no fear of that in the least. Thank you for worrying about me though.

 

Only time will tell. Fair weather friends are a dime a dozen.

[Rick Munroe]

a rapist will never in his lifetime be able to love or respect another woman

 

Apparently, you've never seen General Hospital. Luke raped Laura, but they then went on to have one of the highest-rated TV weddings ever.

 

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[twinkboylover28]

I think this was the best point in the whole discussion. Every relationship is different and a personal matter between those 2 (or more) people.

 

Yep, cheating and betraying your significant other is very personal. I kinda got that at he beginning of the discussion.

[NYTomcat]

Only time will tell. Fair weather friends are a dime a dozen.

 

Thank you Josephga! That is so true. Once a cheater ALWAYS a cheater. For example, take your average rapist. No matter how much prison time you give a rapist, and no matter how much therapy you give a rapist, a rapist will never in his lifetime be able to love or respect another woman, because once a rapist ALWAYS a rapist. It's never the fault of the woman he raped that she got raped. The rapist would rape most anyone. A rapist cant really be cured, as the recidivism rate is veryhigh....much like a cheater.

 

"I raped that woman because she deserved it."

 

Oh by the way...HOW DARE I JUDGE A RAPIST???...I'm so damn "self righteous"!!

 

Well there are the true colors tbl.

 

Yes I got married because I was raped by three guys and was scared into going straight. Your references comparing cheaters to rapist and your attempts to try and make me worry about dying alone are not lost on anyone. Sorry you feel the need to try cheap parlor tricks to win an argument. It just shows that even after being the victim of violent crime I have found the love and support to heal. And that you have obviously never been able to emotionally get over your bf choosing to step out on you.

 

Though I really would love to fire back right now what's the point. Your lonely constant worry your friends will abandon you and you will never be able to keep a man attitude say it all. I hope you find happiness someday perhaps someone traveling that same narrow path your on. Good luck. You'll need it

[Guest countryboywny]

I am one of the guys that TBL writes about. While it hurts to read his post, he is right. I am not proud of what I am doing, I am a child of the 70's and it is very, very difficult to balance the needs of my family with my own. Some may call me selfish, deceitful.. of poor moral character and I would have to agree. It is a constant internal conflict that I have to deal with. Sometimes the guilt is too much to bear, but I go on. Do I wish I could come out, be who I am? Yes, I do. But my concern for the welfare of my family is above all else for me. I'm in a bit of a different situation, my family has issues not related to me, and need my love and support more than most. I am not using this as an excuse for my behavior, only to point out that we all have our reasons for doing what we do and I regret being judged that way. However, it's a fair judgment for an unfair situation. I have always been open and honest in dealings with my gay friends, my sexual partners and everyone that I felt should know about me. In return for my honesty, I have been lucky to receive nothing but understanding, support and a genuine sense of belonging from these people. On the other hand, I am lying to my family who matter most to me. I don't know what else to say, other than I'm doing the best I can do for everyone close to me and hope that those that sit in judgment of me will have the compassion to walk a mile in my shoes.