I am still looking in nyc

[dfermer]

Hey guys. Its pathetic but i am still looking for a smokin hot escort in nyc. I have had a terrible experience as there seems to be no integrity with any of the escorts!!

 

No one returns calls many are plain nasty. I really do want to give it another shot but i also feel like ive almost lost interest.

 

Id really appreciate any encouragement and final recommendations for a smokin hot escort. I am trying to think positive as perhaps i have overlooked someone or am not looking in the right places.

 

Thanks guys

PEACE

 

df

[Guest countryboywny]

df, It might help if you can elaborate on what kind of guy you're interested in. While I'm no expert on NYC, there are plenty of them on this board. I think you would get more responses if you are more specific about what you're looking for.

[+ azdr0710]

 

No one returns calls many are plain nasty.

 

 

just checking that your calls and emails are polite, discreet, and thorough.....I presume they are....you can try to be detailed, but need to be discreet, too....maybe you're already doing this, but give a very short description of yourself, what you hope to have happen at the meet, ask if he has any questions, mention a date/time, and keep any $$ talk well away from any talk about "acts"....

 

just trying to figure out why your replies have been less-than-stellar......

[Guest irgana]

I've never hired in NYC but seriously thinking about stopping there for my next trip to the US.

 

I'm into Twink bottom so here is my selection so far (if someone already hire them let me know I didn't find any reviews for them on daddy but they really look great ) :

Jay http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=226133

Jonathan http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=238799

[cany10011]

Consider an agency

 

Dfermer, have you considered an agency? Perhaps one like maximumescorts or campusescorts or chelseaguys can help. It might be easier to get a response from them instead of relying on an independent.

 

Usually, i like to work with independents but sometimes if the pickings are slim an agency might help or go to rentboy and checkout those that are currently available (and most likely around to take your call).

[JT Brooklyn]

If ya can't find someone to your liking in NYC after a couple of weeks..maybe you should look for "Entertainment" out of the Sex Industry? LOL

[Diverdan]

Great advise in the posts thus far. When I have been in NYC, I have had a good experience by matching the posts on Rentboy with the reviews on this site to come up with what I am looking for, and have never been disappointed. I also agree that working with an agency might be the way for you to go for this trip. Good luck and let us know how it turns out

DD

[dfermer]

thank you for all of your replies. Very helpful. Please keep your suggestions coming.

I am always polite when I contact an escort. The look I want is the SEAN CODY type Jock athletic young. I figure, if Im payin I might as well be extremely pleased in that dept. It is a lot of money for me (as I am in grad school) but Ill pay for the right guy and I really dont want to settle!

I find guys lie about their looks and offer fake pics. I want to meet them before in public anthey refuse. To me that is clear that they are hiding something no? What is the big deal to meet outside on the street for three minutes before the appt. just to make sure they are who they say they are. When they refuse, I run the other way. Am i being unreasonable?

Please, Please its my first time doing this and I really want to make it happen with the best guy for me.

Maximum agency, I find the guys are older. Im only 32, I want a white younger guy, as i said, a sean cody model type. Campus escorts totally not my taste.

 

Thanks tons,

Dan F

 

PS

When it happens, I PROMISE I will post all the glorious details (as many as I am allowed) on here!!

[seeker630]

I find guys lie about their looks and offer fake pics. I want to meet them before in public anthey refuse. To me that is clear that they are hiding something no? What is the big deal to meet outside on the street for three minutes before the appt. just to make sure they are who they say they are. When they refuse, I run the other way. Am i being unreasonable?

 

PS

When it happens, I PROMISE I will post all the glorious details (as many as I am allowed) on here!!

 

From the escort's perspective....you're asking them to trust that you are real, not a game-player and will show up as agreed and likely hire them. And you're doing this because YOU don't trust THEM. I suspect opinions here will differ as to how reasonable that is.

 

I think that if you find someone who has the look you want AND if you get confirmation here that they match their pix...then maybe you should consider forgoing the public pre-meet.

I also wonder if you're setting yourself up for disappointment by focusing too specifically on an ideal.

 

But I do wish you the best of luck - and you can post all the details you want in the Review portion of the site, where it will reach more people.

[+ azdr0710]

well, part of your problem with unresponsive escorts may be the "let's meet for three minutes while I check you out" clause.....most paid guys, even good ones, won't want to waste time meeting up only to have a chance they won't get paid for what may be an hour or more getting to/from that review location.....however, more common, I've read, is an escort getting to the actual meeting room (hotel, home), not meeting the client's expectation, and being told by the client that this isn't going to work out....some payment is then negotiated....this possibility needs to be disclosed before the meet, I'd presume.....there are many reviews at Daddy's where this happened - with varying results.....

[JT Brooklyn]

The "I want to meet in public" BEFORE we do business is definitely going to get a Negative reply from at least 90% of the Working Guys!

 

Apparently you donot read Reviews often as this is almost never mentioned in Reviews where there was a Trial Meeting ???

 

IF you asked this in a place like Vegas it definitely would come across to the "Working Guy" as a Sting Operation. If you wanna really get laid in NYC you better drop the Meet First idea!

[Kevin Slater]

Hey guys. Its pathetic but i am still looking for a smokin hot escort in nyc.

 

You haven't been able to find a match from any of the ~400 guys on rentboy alone. Perhaps this says more about you than about the collection of them.

 

there seems to be no integrity with any of the escorts!!

 

Amazingly, not a one has any integrity. See my comment above.

 

I am always polite when I contact an escort.

 

See your comment above.

 

I want to meet them before in public anthey refuse. To me that is clear that they are hiding something no?

 

You're eager to assume the worst about these guys and predisposed to disappointment, yet surprised that none want to subject themselves to your judgment.

 

What is the big deal to meet outside on the street for three minutes before the appt.

 

No big deal at all. Just cab fare, prep and travel time, missed bookings, the interruption of the day and whatnot. But hey, they live to serve.

 

...just to make sure they are who they say they are.

 

There are numerous resources to research these working guys; they have no such tools to investigate you. Despite this, you don't trust them to look like their pics but expect them to trust that you're not some cyber wanker who gets off by toying with escorts.

 

When they refuse, I run the other way. Am i being unreasonable?

 

You're welcome to try any approach you want to your hiring, but I am not in the least surprised that so far each guy has decided he has better things to do with his time. I, too, would run the other way.

 

Kevin Slater

[rossthebosssf]

Kevin Slater, I "heart" you.

[adriano46]

After reading DFermer's post on the trial meeting, my sentiments went directly to what Kevin Slater so beautifully wrote.

 

I could see the "let's meet outsidfe for 10 minutes first" for a DATE (and by this, I mean, meeting a guy on Criag's List or Adam4Adam for a real "no exchange of $$" pick-up but NOT for hiring an escort.

 

I also agree that for most escorts, such a request from a client would come acress as a set-up with possibly bad consequences. And if you are looking for something of the Sean Cody ideal, I doubt any of them would be willing to reply positively to your conditions.

 

DF -- listen to what people arme writing here. I do not know a single escort who can just up and run to meet you on the street with no time for preparation and no promise of a payment. This is why they are "escorts" and not pick-up dates. The change has to come from you; either be willing to do that, or be relegated to cruising the very few bars where you might be able to hook up with working guys... (in NY do they even exist anymore???)

[best hotel]

wow Kevin.....yu da man!...sexy smart post

[shadowcatzxxx]

I understand both your hesitation and the very firm and clear responses. How's this for a compromise ... it has worked for me on occasion. You could offer a guy to meet him at his place "incall" for half an hour at half his rate .... with the understanding that if chemistry is right you continue for full hour at full rate, otherwise, half/half. Gives you some monetary constraints, give the guy an incentive and not-too-much inconvenience. Some people (the really busy ones) probably won't take this either, but it could be worth a shot. And, FWIW, in my experience when the guy has agreed, the good have matched the description and I have invariably gone for the full monty; if they decline, it may be an indication of false advertising of less-than-ideal customer service.

[dfermer]

Thank You Shadowcatzxxx, pretty good Idea.

 

For all of you Escorts who replied, this is my response:

 

From your vantage point, I get it that it doesn't make sense to meet for three minutes publicly before hiring, after all, your time is very ...expensive. Well here is the fact: This is a problem that you have helped create, whether you realize it or not. I have been pondering hiring someone for a while and it amazes me at how many people feel the way I do. Pics that are years old are posted online. It's almost an insult to my intelligence! Do you take your clients' to be such fools that we are to believe that you still look exactly the same as in the pictures that you have online since 2007? I cannot tell you how many escorts would get upset at me just even asking how recent the pics were.

 

The fact that so many of your colleagues have been duping, no let me call it for what it is, LYING to clients like me, and I honestly believe that I am a voice for many who feel like the way I do but who do not speak out, means that you are complicit in the swindling of people's hard earned money! I work hard for my money, especially in this economy. And I am not going to just give it up to a guy who lied to me. For me, especially when the escort is in a position of power. He is usually stronger than me and I need to go out to his place to meet. So let me get this straight (no pun intended). I am supposed to go to some stranger's apt. alone and when I see he's lying to me, as he looks nothing like the pics he distributes, I am supposed to call him out on it and tell him? The moment I see He looks nothing like the pics he sent me, that is a deal breaker, in fact there was no deal to begin with because I never would have contacted him had I known what he truly looked like. However, I do not want to risk possibly getting hurt. OR do you expect me to just sit the hell down and shut up and pay someone who lied to me? Well that ain't me. And no one, is going to intimidate me and prevent me from speaking my truth, I don't care what they look like!

 

ESCORTS, it is time to take responsibility for your actions and be truthful about who you are and what you look like. In my opinion, meeting for three minutes outside your place for an incall so the client can see if you are legit, is a very small price to pay.

 

All the best,

 

Dan

[Steven_Draker]

Dan,

did ever occur to you that there are escorts out there who update their pictures regularly and you're insulting them?

 

Methinks, after reading all your postings, that you're not ready for hiring. No offense, baby, but I don't know a single escort who'd agree to meet up for 3 minutes in a public place, coffee shop or "outside your place" for you to check him out.

 

Hiring is all about having a good time and not seeking a knot in a bulrush.

 

[cany10011]

Steven, if daddysreviews had a "like" button similar to facebook, I would "like" your comment

[JT Brooklyn]

dfermer..True there are guys who do feel as you do! What they will do is ATTEND Live Strip Shows! Your in NYC therefore very easy for your "3 min Face to Faces"... No Charge

 

1.Club 20 Sunday Nite 2. Brooklyn Strip Club Thurs Nites...

 

Your better off in the Stripper's Forum for YOUR needs at this time....

[uwsman2]

Take it from somebody who's been hiring escorts for more than 30 years -- just about nobody would consider it reasonable to agree to a 3 minute trial meeting in public without any commitment to continue and get paid, for all the reasons that have been mentioned.

 

Sure, there have been times when I made an appointment with an escort and was disappointed by somebody who looked worse and much older than his pictures, but those are very much the minority. Most of the time, I've found, the guys I have hired have looked better in person than their pictures. Photos can distort things - especially, depending on angles, distance, lighting, they can make somebody look quite different in two dimensions than the three dimensional person standing before you in real life. (When are escort websites going to get into holograms - 3-D pics?)

 

My solution is to narrow down your selection to some very well reviewed guys on this site who have the "look" that you are seeking - out of the more than 300 escorts in NYC on rentboy.com at any given time, you must be able to come up with a few - make your short list in order of preference, and start phoning, and don't ask them how recent their photo is and don't ask them for a public meeting before your session with them. When you phone them, have possible times for appointments in mind, and be very upfront about suggesting some times, and they will take you seriously. For a well-reviewed escort [and by that I mean somebody with (1) several good reviews, (2) a few of which are relatively recent, and (3) and none of which state that the escort's photos misrepresented him - something that reviewers usually report if it is the case] you can take that leap of faith and make the appointment before meeting them. It's true, of course, that you may end up with somebody where the "chemistry" is lacking, but if you're going for a well-reviewed escort and the reviews indicate he likes to do the kinds of things you are looking for and you are presentable as far as hygiene goes, that's usually not a problem. And if the first person you meet fails in the chemistry department, try again.

 

Of course it's expensive, especially if you're a student without the resources to do this frequently, but if you really want to do this, you need to get over those initial fears. The first few times I hired, I was an emotional wreck by the time I knocked on that door or rang that bell - but almost all my earliest experiences were very good, and none totally disastrous, and that was in the days of little classified print ads in the pink pages of The Advocate without photos, and of no escort review websites (indeed, no internet) so I was making my selections based on almost no information beyond the guy's basic stats and a few descriptive words. But somehow it worked out because I was so eager to try it, and I've had many very exciting and fulfilling experiences as a result.

 

Don't give up hope!

[bcohen7719]

Guys:

 

I would cut "Dferm" some slack. I had some of the same problems, although as a complete newbie/e-virgin.

 

New York, although huge, is a city of strangers for some.

 

Some very kind people on this site gave me advice that a particular escort in Los Angeles would actually be best for me, and this will come to pass soon.

 

Perhaps escorts in the Midwest or South or West Coast are less rushed, and easier to deal with.

 

In my own case, difficulties arose because of my own nervousness. I actually didn't even have the nerve to call anyone. I could only use email. The NYC escorts I contacted by email didn't want long email exchanges--and understandably. The ultra-nice escort in Los Angeles perceptively understood that he needed to call me. When he did so, I was so delighted and surprised. For this, he earned my utmost appreciation and gratitude from the get-go. Regardless of what happens, even if we just watch television--I'm going to spoil him rotten.

 

The other outstanding comments and suggestions on this thread are wise and helpful,

They will help newbies, and bring in "fresh blood." That would seem to be good for everyone.

 

Best wishes,

 

BC