Tipping Practices from both sides -- a taboo subject???

[leigh.bess.toad]

I've been wondering about how people handle the "delicate problem" of tipping the escorts. From some of the escorts websites I've seen, it appears that some of them say about half of their clients tip, even though it is not expected. So I was wondering about that.

 

For the guys who are clients -- do you routinely tip your escort (assuming it wasn't an awful experience), only regulars you hire, only on special occaisions? If so, do you tip a percentage of the agreed upon fee or a "reasonable" dollar amount, depending on the length of the engagement? If you do tip an escort, do you perceive any difference in how you are viewed or treated in future encounters?

 

For the escorts, does that 40-50% of clients number ring true to your client base? Do your regulars tip more often and better than "one-timers"? Are the tips you receive more often a percentage of the agreed upon fee or a fixed dollar amount. Does a client that tips affect your view of the that client in future encounters?

 

Besides the educational benefit of the responses for everyone, it would help me. I believe I may have the unfortunate habit of overtipping everywhere. It takes an enormous effort for a waiter to get under 20%. I tip 20%+ even on carryout and delivery pizza. I overtip bellmen and housekeeping. I overtip the carhop. I'm not overly generous -- it's just I work hard for what I make and appreciate the work that others do. I try to treat everyone how I want to be treated. So I'd love to hear how others handle this "delicate" situation.

 

Comments/opinions/discussions/disagreements??? Thanks to all.

 

Lee

[geoffk]

I usually do not tip an escort. I think he should charge the amount he expects to get in full. He is not like a waiter or delivery boy (well maybe he is) that usually makes the minimum wage.

Tipping minimum wage workers is expected, for waiters/waitresses its part of their "pay". Escorts are not minimum wage earners they should charge a rate that is appropriate for their needs

and clients are willing to pay. Thats my 2 cents on the matter.

[gp0560]

From the perspective of my not-very-broad experience, I think that we should not classify escorts along with doormen and waitstaff. Agencies excluded, escorts run their own businesses, the others do not. The old rule used to be to tip the employees, but not the owners. That said, I do tip my regulars, sometimes with a little cash, but more often with gifts. Something that recognizes the escort as a person with a life outside his business goes a long way as a tangible expression of thanks.

[josephga]

I think people in the service industry tip better than the average person too. I use to get allot hair stylist as massage clients some of them tipped 50%

personal trainers, waiters, bartenders other masseurs they all tipped me very well. They felt that it was a krama thing if they tipped well t would come back to them in their businesses.

[Battle]

Pay the asking price.

Exceptional service - tip accordingly

[Guest Merlin]

Escorts who are independent, set their own price and should not expect a tip. Those who work for agencies deserve a tip. Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

[Guest countryboywny]

Escorts who are independent, set their own price and should not expect a tip. Those who work for agencies deserve a tip. Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

 

I'm a good tipper!

[KMEM]

Does mentally disabled count? I like your attitude cboywny.

 

Most everyone knows if they are overweight, physically disabled or very old, but some may not know they are "approaching" same. Got any guidelines on that? Remember, everyone is dificient in some way or another or so I think.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[raife]

I've usually tipped agency guys (unless it was a bad experience), but try to avoid agencies whenever possible as there are too many good alternatives. Independent pro escorts, generally no tip as the asking rates are mostly damn generous as is (at least here in LA).

 

I'll definitely tip my regulars for exceptional, really mind blowing service, or if they take my favorite fetish to the next level and do something magical with it (my fetish is why I started hiring to begin with). I've done 25% and higher tips if they left me walking on air, just because I felt like it and wanted more of the same in the future.

 

No one, except maybe agency guys should expect a tip though, and they should never ask - that's just rude! Though some have - usually the types who want to renegotiate the price during the session, for "extras". I really detest this, and will most certianly not be back for more. I've written a bad review on one of these con artists.

[Lookin]

Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

http://www.imageenvision.com/150/29906-clip-art-graphic-of-a-man-carrying-a-heavy-money-bag-on-his-back-by-djart.jpg

[leigh.bess.toad]

Does mentally disabled count? I like your attitude cboywny.

 

I certainly hope insane doesn't because I'd have to be tipping 300-500% (at a minimum) . Does having a session in a straight jacket qualify as BDSM??? How about a rubber room???

 

Lee

[Steven_Draker]

I think that in the escort industry tipping is discretionary.

 

Speaking only for myself: tipping is always appreciated and remembered, but completely up to you.

[Guest countryboywny]

Escorts,

Who tips better, us old, fat guys or younger, studly clients??

[Guest countryboywny]

Does mentally disabled count? I like your attitude cboywny.

 

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

Awww, Thanks KMEM

[Juan Vancouver]

Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

 

I am sorry but I can't let it go... Do you really mean this?

 

Maybe you are quoting someone in this site and it is an inside joke, but nobody seems to have seen anything wrong with this statement.

 

Having a session with a very, very old man who has not have had sex in many, many years and sharing with him my body, my time, myself is a tip in itself. And no, I am not interested in playing the Mother Superior of Ho role here, but I can assure you that any escort with a bit of vocation finds that kind of session intensely rewarding.

 

If we applied those strange standards then who would really need to tip would be rude or dirty people, except that when I get the slightest glimpse of either I simply go without asking for any compensation.

 

I know I am only speaking on my behalf but if you are fat, or if you are disabled or if you are old (and even "very" old), you are not only not expected to tip as if meeting you would be a terrible burden, but you are welcomed to meet me and you will be celebrated for who you are.

 

As for the original question about tipping, here is what I believe:

 

Do it if it gives you pleasure. Tipping customs vary all over the world, all over different generations, all over different social levels. There is no right way to do it. If your escort says that 80% of his clients tip, then that's great. If nobody tips him that's great. Do it when you feel like doing it, skip it when you don't feel moved to.

 

We have a massive amount of guilt about money and sex, so it is no wonder why when both come together we have to often face a huge amount of insecurities, and all sort of inadequacy complexes.

 

Get rid of those if you want to enjoy yourself.

 

Nothing really means anything. There is no ISO900 aproved way. There is no righteous attitude about it.

 

If it feels good, go for it.

 

I wish you much fulfillment, fun, pleasure and excitement!

[orbital sander]

I've been wondering about how people handle the "delicate problem" of tipping the escorts. From some of the escorts websites I've seen, it appears that some of them say about half of their clients tip, even though it is not expected. So I was wondering about that.

 

For the guys who are clients -- do you routinely tip your escort (assuming it wasn't an awful experience), only regulars you hire, only on special occaisions? If so, do you tip a percentage of the agreed upon fee or a "reasonable" dollar amount, depending on the length of the engagement? If you do tip an escort, do you perceive any difference in how you are viewed or treated in future encounters?

 

For the escorts, does that 40-50% of clients number ring true to your client base? Do your regulars tip more often and better than "one-timers"? Are the tips you receive more often a percentage of the agreed upon fee or a fixed dollar amount. Does a client that tips affect your view of the that client in future encounters?

 

Besides the educational benefit of the responses for everyone, it would help me. I believe I may have the unfortunate habit of overtipping everywhere. It takes an enormous effort for a waiter to get under 20%. I tip 20%+ even on carryout and delivery pizza. I overtip bellmen and housekeeping. I overtip the carhop. I'm not overly generous -- it's just I work hard for what I make and appreciate the work that others do. I try to treat everyone how I want to be treated. So I'd love to hear how others handle this "delicate" situation.

 

Comments/opinions/discussions/disagreements??? Thanks to all.

 

Lee

 

Hey Lee,

 

This subject is certainly not taboo here on this M/F. If you go back and look at some older threads you will find this discussion many, many times over the years. I agree with most here (except for the one, clearly deranged person) and feel that this is discretionary. Escorts who expect tips, and make no bones about it, turn me off. I equate it with a waiter who comes to the table at the beginning of service stating that he expects a good tip before rendering any service...It makes no sense.

[orbital sander]

I am sorry but I can't let it go... Do you really mean this?

 

Maybe you are quoting someone in this site and it is an inside joke, but nobody seems to have seen anything wrong with this statement.

 

Having a session with a very, very old man who has not have had sex in many, many years and sharing with him my body, my time, myself is a tip in itself. And no, I am not interested in playing the Mother Superior of Ho role here, but I can assure you that any escort with a bit of vocation finds that kind of session intensely rewarding.

 

If we applied those strange standards then who would really need to tip would be rude or dirty people, except that when I get the slightest glimpse of either I simply go without asking for any compensation.

 

I know I am only speaking on my behalf but if you are fat, or if you are disabled or if you are old (and even "very" old), you are not only not expected to tip as if meeting you would be a terrible burden, but you are welcomed to meet me and you will be celebrated for who you are.

 

As for the original question about tipping, here is what I believe:

 

Do it if it gives you pleasure. Tipping customs vary all over the world, all over different generations, all over different social levels. There is no right way to do it. If your escort says that 80% of his clients tip, then that's great. If nobody tips him that's great. Do it when you feel like doing it, skip it when you don't feel moved to.

 

We have a massive amount of guilt about money and sex, so it is no wonder why when both come together we have to often face a huge amount of insecurities, and all sort of inadequacy complexes.

 

Get rid of those if you want to enjoy yourself.

 

Nothing really means anything. There is no ISO900 aproved way. There is no righteous attitude about it.

 

If it feels good, go for it.

 

I wish you much fulfillment, fun, pleasure and excitement!

 

Juan, I just love you more and more with every post!

[josephga]

I don't think a person who's older or disabled should be expected to tip. A person can't help being disabled and everyone's going to be old sooner or later unless there's a secret out there i don't know about

[Steven_Draker]

Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

 

Guys, Merlin is just pulling your leg. Relax, everyone.

[orbital sander]

Guys, Merlin is just pulling your leg. Relax, everyone.[/color]

 

How often is he pulling our legs these days??

[AdamATL77]

Tipping is completely discretionary. I don't "expect" a tip but I'm certainly going to remember the ones who do. If I noticed a client has given more than the amount I asked and I wasn't sure my performance was worthy, I do double-check with them that they didn't miscount. But there is a comical sign that I see in my head from time to time: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2069/2376715040_d6a1f31049.jpg

 

But seriously, I do agree with josephga about the elderly and disabled.

 

On the comment:

Quote Originally Posted by Merlin2

Clients who are grossly fat, disabled, very old, should also tip.

What about the hot clients?

[+ purplekow]

Well, in any case, I tip sometimes, if I have the funds, and other times, not so much. I can't help but feel that I sometimes tip out of a sense of inadequacy or because of a desire to be liked. If you are a chronic overtipper that many say more about you than the service.

 

I have editted this post. I received a private mail which I did not read but as soon as I saw the name I decided not to retrace old steps. Enjoy the rest of the postings.

[Guest Spanky]

Related topic: How do escorts feel about getting non-cash gifts. I once hired a guy who in the after glow (mine not his) expressed his growing interest in Subject X. So the next time I hired him, I gave him some books about it. He seemed to really appreciate it, though I thought that maybe I had crossed the line (you know - the "you're not my friend you're my client, so stick with the cash" line). But I am a gift-giver by nature because I really enjoy seeing people's faces light up when you give them something that actually has some thought behind it. I mean, I have given presents to my mail carrier, my accountant, my massage therapist (but not my blood sucking lawyer), so if an escort is a service provider, then it doesn't seem that inappropriate.

 

If you are a chronic overtipper that many say more about you than the service.

 

I am a chronic tipper though not necessarily an overtipper (which I guess means you tip more than is warranted). Insecure? Perhaps. But I've seen in the work environment how well people respond to even the smallest acknowledgment of their work. There are some escorts that have looked genuinely surprised and pleased after I tip them. It's kind of satisfying for me to see that. Plus, you get preferred service the next time. Kind of like frequent flier status used to work.

 

And no, I am not interested in playing the Mother Superior of Ho role here....

 

Mmmm...Juan wearing a habit and playing the role of a slutty nun. That is oddly arousing for a Catholic-school boy like me.

 

There is no ISO900 aproved way.

 

You know we all love it when you talk dirty. I was just writing about ISO crap last week. Did you know that ISO has manufacturing standards for things like screws, fluid flow, and even pig irons?

[leigh.bess.toad]

Guys, Merlin is just pulling your leg. Relax, everyone.[/color]

 

I don't know if he's pulling our leg, but I'm willing to pull any of yours, any time, any place.) :)

 

Lee

[leigh.bess.toad]

FireIceWIZARD Merlin=WIZARD Hmmm....do old habits die hard?

I can't help but feel that I sometimes tip out of a sense of inadequacy or because of a desire to be liked. If you are a chronic overtipper that many say more about you than the service.

 

Welcome to my world PK. Were you somehow remotely listening in on my therapy session this afternoon??

 

Let me be clear about my intent with the question: I was certainly not implying nor expecting that any escort would ever "ask" for a tip, at least not any that I would have any interest in hiring. I was simply trying to gauge the frequency and "size" of such tips. I certainly agree that any escort who sat there with their hand out would probably get it smacked in this day and age. I would certainly run as fast as these short, old, legs could carry me. I certainly remember one escort many, many years ago who after they arrived at my hotel basically went through the Chinese menu of "kissing is X dollars, oral is X dollars, anal is X dollars". I was out of town, much younger, stupid, bored, and horny (as they say, "i was so horny the crack of dawn looked appealing") I proceeded. Needless to say it was a less than satisfactory experience. But for me, who is even at this late advanced age of xxxx years exploring his sexuality, having someone who leads me to places I only know I want to go subconsciously can be an amazing experience that certainly deserves remuneration above and beyond the agreed upon rate. Whereas someone who basically supplies the experience agreed upon but with no imagination, no je ne sais quoi, I don't know if I would provide a tip. But I was just trying to gauge everyone else's experiences, feelings, practices.

 

And to all who have responded, thank you very much. I'm not sure if I'm surprised by the number of response and the speed with which they've come in. But I appreciate everyone's time and thoughts. Love and lust to you all.

 

Lee