Unexpected, not suprising, underhanded, cleverly protected by a well crafted persona

[Guest RyanCade]

This post will most likely drift peacefully into the vast labyrinth of Daddy's archives. I have chosen the road less traveled, as I often do, I refuse to buy the keep quiet, smile and be pretty rule, generally accepted and adhered to by both clients and escorts on this board. It's clear that among the most active posters,I am not Mr popular and I'm not likely to receive an escort of the year or Mr. Congeniality award so long as they remain active and keep their private email lists and blacklists up to date.

 

SO, I will uphold my reputation and speak the truth even when it is not bubbly and wrought with "genuine" southern hospitality. I came to this board under heavy fire and for a bit things seemed to work themselves out. I did my best to participate and contribute my little tid bits of useful insight, always having an honest and sincere desire to be a part of this community and add to it in some way. Time after time, my words were twisted, misinterpreted, manipulated, and sometimes flat out basterdized in an attempt to to subdue me and discredit me, forcing those who don't know any better or may just not be in a position to keep up with the back and forth banter, to innocently question my character and integrity. It's an innovative, passive aggressive and underhanded tactic, but affective and nearly undetectable under the well known code of conduct adopted by and held in force by the long time posters here in the MC....

 

A few other escorts warned me about the danger of becoming active on this board, their recommendation was actually to steer clear of it and never speak no matter what.. and there are many who hold fast to their own advice. I am a free spirit and a free thinker. I am mentally, emotionally, and physically incapable of following that intelligent but more cowardly and selfish approach motivated by the desire to protect ones own financial security material assets.

 

Not too long ago, my integrity, and credibility, once again were insensitively and quit arrogantly thrown to the board for fodder. One of my "friends" a well known poster rushed to my rescue, with a solid promise, to report his findings when he met with the one and only mystical, thought provoking, controversial fellow named RyanCade after his scheduled meeting the following Monday in NYC. A gentleman and a scholar, well educated, seemingly sensitive caring and passionate to me that day and many others he was a knight in shining armor. Someone I thought I could trust and could be a real friend. In my experience when you fight the good fight and stand up for what you believe and what is right, there will be few that will stand close to you, it seems uncool and very unpopular, as a matter a fact people will go out of their way to console you privately and agree with you wholeheartedly, but not before they explain to you why they don't feel it would be appropriate to stand by you publicly. So this esteem-able man left the message center and myself with something to look forward to, with baited breath in anticipation of his credible report..

 

I met that man that following Monday, We seemed to connect right away, I actually cared deeply for him and felt as if we had known each other for years... I was honored to have been chosen by this man and he always made me feel good when he jumped into the frey and stood up for me , even when it wasn't the most popular cool thing to do. We had great sex, several cigarettes and lots of stimulating ego boosting conversation a nice dinner and lots of huggs and kisses and well wishes when it was over. I received a heartfelt e-mail the following day expressing pure gratitude for an amazing time. Thanking me for being who I am. He said it was so great he didn't know what parts to highlight in my review, he was sure to have submitted by that friday.. He baited the message center offering the review, he promised me the review, and for the the next few days he text messaged me to check on me and continuously expressed his gratitude. and gave several reasons "unsolicited" why he did not have time to write the review, but continued contacting me to reassure me of its future submission.

 

He stopped calling and stopped returning my texts as well, I called him and asked for his support in the MC when I posted my fire cracker thread about the m4rn client reviews. He said of course right away sir. he again began to text and call with reasons he was unable to get to it. The following day he posted on another thread of mine in the kindest most supportive way. With a completely fabricated post. We never had that conversation and I never said those moving seemingly sentimental words. At this point I knew the review would never post... Yes I wanted the review, Yes I could have used the review, yes i looked forward with gleaming eyes for the promised review. Yes I thought it would help my business, yes I couldn't wait to see it and I wanted it bad..... When I asked him what happened to it, he lied and said it was submitted already and who did I think I was He then used that as the excuse for not submitting one.

 

Guys I wanted the review so bad that I allowed this man to spew information about many posters, moderators, and escorts and actually thought at one point boy he is disclosing a lot. But I continued smile and I did not at that point question the validity of all the things he was saying. But what stands out to me the most after the fact, is that he put great emphasis on the deliberate and affective strategies implemented to promote the boards favorite escorts, which went unquestioned at that moment, because I was included by him at that time. I am not perfect and my own selfishness clouded and justified it instinctively in the moment. I can only imagine what his motives are and I have disregarded all I thought I learned during his disclosure to me in the name of providing info that would help me avoid trouble and I felt most privileged to be provided with...

 

This may not even make it to the board, it may get the old snip snip, redacted redacted.. But it felt good to write it and get it out of me...

 

With All My Love & Respect

 

BIG HUGGS

 

Jeremy AKA RyanCade and adopting a new name with the New Cadence -Jeremiah Hart

[orbital sander]

Dude...

 

good luck, I hope life works out for you.

[Guest RyanCade]

Dude...

 

good luck, I hope life works out for you.

 

65 views and one very well thought out genuine post. way to go OS Folks we have a good guy here. you are exempt OS you must not be in the club.... Everyone in the club knows not to post on my threads. After all I am an awful escort. I have a mind of my own. :-)

[NYTomcat]

Well Never one for being shy.... I am the "Unexpected, not suprising, underhanded, cleverly protected by a well crafted persona." Ryan and I had a marvelous time together. Unfortunately between daddy's being down and what everyone knows has been my building "coming out" I was delayed in filing his review which was quite spectacular if I do say so myself. Apparently either I or the system ate that review and it failed to submit.

 

Rather than ask me about it...Ryan felt he would rather charge me with "my true colors" coming out. Not sure which those are but there it is. I must admit that after reading his "new Cadence" post I did not like being seen as one of the men who diminished him spiritually by hiring for a sexual experience rather than just to fill the lonely hours of my life with his company. Honestly as I said before I hire for both.

 

When I review, which I take a great deal of time and thought in doing, I do not just slap together a couple paragraphs about the time or regurgitate verbatim the positions and actions. I try to take the time to describe the connection, the feeling, the responses and really give the "next guy" a view at what sharing time with the escort is like. I truly believe the review is one of the best marketing tools any escort can have and for those men whom I have hired to touch my life in a special way, I try to pay that back with expressing my pleasure at having met them. These were all things I would anxiously have done for Ryan as the experience during the hire was quite memorable. Unfortunately, this after-hire has also been memorable and not in such a positive way.

 

I hope that all these things work out for Ryan and that he has a successful career in whatever sort of escorting or other professional capacity he chooses to pursue. However I feel that any review at this point would be superfluous, as I have now told him privately before this. One, because it would describe an experience he is not intending to provide any longer and Two, because I can not in good conscious give the review and not mention the drama that has now followed the meeting. I am sorry he feels this was necessary but perhaps there is a place where keeping with "southern hospitality" would have been the better road, less traveled or not.

[+ purplekow]

Ryan,

I read your post twice and I am confused. I believe you are saying that there is an underground network of posters who undermine certain escorts by sending private mail to other posters and then promote other "favored" escorts by extolling their virtues on the forum.

I know of no such cabal but should it exist, their posts here are for public consumption and the private messages are just that, private. Now I do not condone such activities, I find it cowardly to speak ill of someone in whispers with little chance for that person to defend themselves. I hope you are wrong about this, but if you are correct, I trust that some posters will come forth and confirm this. Ultimately, even if what you say is true, it is nothing new. John Adams suffered public ridicule in the newspapers at the hand of editors manipulated by Thomas Jefferson. And if those founding fathers could fuck with each other, who is to say it cant happen here.

As to your second point, which seems unrelated to the first, unless you are accusing the person who eventually did not write your review as a member of the Scarlet Underground, this seems more a personal issue. You do so little to hide this person's identity that I assume he will be following with a post of his version of the exchanges. If he does not respond, it is certainly not the first time a glowing review was promisted and nothing was forthcoming. It is unfortunate that you are so angry about the events. Anger is not likely to help this end with any type of positive outcome. You make it clear that you had high hopes for a positive review and the stimulus that might provide for your business. I think your post above will have a negative impact on your business. It will have that impact, not because it speaks out against the status quo and as a result those with the power will try and crush you, but rather that impact will result from your making public this private matter.

I wish you well. I hope you continue to post. The board is in need of objective input from escorts for a wide variety of reasons. I do not share the opinion of those who advised you to stay away from here. I have made more than one ill worded or just plain stupid post here. None of us have a perfect internal editor. When I am going to post something which may be controversial, I will usually ask a forum member I trust to read it before I post it. I suggest you find someone whose opinion you trust to assist you as well. At least then you can ask that person: Why the hell did you let me post that?

 

Best wishes. PK

[Guest RyanCade]

Well Never one for being shy.... I am the "Unexpected, not suprising, underhanded, cleverly protected by a well crafted persona." Ryan and I had a marvelous time together. Unfortunately between daddy's being down and what everyone knows has been my building "coming out" I was delayed in filing his review which was quite spectacular if I do say so myself. Apparently either I or the system ate that review and it failed to submit.

 

Rather than ask me about it...Ryan felt he would rather charge me with "my true colors" coming out. Not sure which those are but there it is. I must admit that after reading his "new Cadence" post I did not like being seen as one of the men who diminished him spiritually by hiring for a sexual experience rather than just to fill the lonely hours of my life with his company. Honestly as I said before I hire for both.

 

When I review, which I take a great deal of time and thought in doing, I do not just slap together a couple paragraphs about the time or regurgitate verbatim the positions and actions. I try to take the time to describe the connection, the feeling, the responses and really give the "next guy" a view at what sharing time with the escort is like. I truly believe the review is one of the best marketing tools any escort can have and for those men whom I have hired to touch my life in a special way, I try to pay that back with expressing my pleasure at having met them. These were all things I would anxiously have done for Ryan as the experience during the hire was quite memorable. Unfortunately, this after-hire has also been memorable and not in such a positive way.

 

I hope that all these things work out for Ryan and that he has a successful career in whatever sort of escorting or other professional capacity he chooses to pursue. However I feel that any review at this point would be superfluous, as I have now told him privately before this. One, because it would describe an experience he is not intending to provide any longer and Two, because I can not in good conscious give the review and not mention the drama that has now followed the meeting. I am sorry he feels this was necessary but perhaps there is a place where keeping with "southern hospitality" would have been the better road, less traveled or not.

 

Tomcatyou are an excellent performer, as most lawyers... You know who you are and now I do to. I am upfront and will very quickly admit when I have faltered, thinking about the things you said about the people on this board didn't really hit home until after our meeting and your behavior became very evasive. You can paint a pretty picture of yourself if you like, but I seriously doubt that DavidSF BEGGED for a review from you.. I have never met him but I feel safe in assuming that is not his personality... I seriously doubt JoeyBryant admitted his approach to landing the lower end clients to you either. the more I think about it you simply wanted me to think you were far more superior and knowledgeable than you actually were... Did you really "put daddy in his place" Did you really put anyone up to sending me money? Though you offered you didnt, but you took the time to tell another poster to do so. wow but you do indeed have a knack for painting nice pictures.

[BewareofNick]

Dude...

 

good luck, I hope life works out for you.

 

Glad to see you're being true to form. Is the hat made out of white bedsheets, foil or both?

[NYTomcat]

Tomcatyou are an excellent performer, as most lawyers... You know who you are and now I do to. I am upfront and will very quickly admit when I have faltered, thinking about the things you said about the people on this board didn't really hit home until after our meeting and your behavior became very evasive. You can paint a pretty picture of yourself if you like, but I seriously doubt that DavidSF BEGGED for a review from you.. I have never met him but I feel safe in assuming that is not his personality... I seriously doubt JoeyBryant admitted his approach to landing the lower end clients to you either. the more I think about it you simply wanted me to think you were far more superior and knowledgeable than you actually were... Did you really "put daddy in his place" Did you really put anyone up to sending me money? Though you offered you didnt, but you took the time to tell another poster to do so. wow but you do indeed have a knack for painting nice pictures.

 

Hmmm. Yes lets air my dirty laudry a little more. That David SF really wanted a review because he did such a terrific job in trying to get me past me fear of bottoming after being raped. But that I just couldn't write it cause it was too personal.

 

Or that Daddy and I fought over the AJ Irons Post because I was so protective of Romann. Because I was so terrible infatuated with him that anyone who went after Him I immediately had to jump on. To the point I actually confronted Daddy and risked getting myself thrown out of the forum standing up for Romann

 

Or that Joey and I have discussed the hirers who enjoy hiring him because they perceive his rough street persona which I have said is not all that is there. That he actually has a very intelligent personality and we have on many occassions discussed his real understanding of escorting and I have learned alot from those discussions

 

Or perhaps we should discuss that I supported on the post the sending you of money because I belivevd you were being stalked. and even supported others who I will not name, unless they decide to. In sending you cash. and That I tried to figure a way to get you to fly to NY and get you a hotel so you could see clients here safely away from the "stalker" and try to make some money so you wouldn't have to live out of your car.

 

Really Ryan... I do not understand why I have to defend myself here... or why any of my private conversations with an escort, you... even though I am not ashamed of them... should need to be aired publicly. Now I assume you are next going discuss my sexual technique. Im fairly new so Still have a lot to learn. Often Gag when giving oral. Not really that great at it but Im trying. Still working on those bottoming skills. I really enjoy it but haven't had enough practice to be lose yet. Also always get nervous the old demons are gona come back and raise their ugly heads so I tend to tighten up and then it hurts. Then again we never got there so I guess you wouldn't have known that. Pride myself on Kissing, always thought I was fairly good. but then who am I to judge. Not a huge Dick, very self conscious of the fact Im a grower not a shower. Are there any other private details about me you would like to have made public. Or is that enough

 

Now

[Guest RyanCade]

Hmmm. Yes lets air my dirty laudry a little more. That David SF really wanted a review because he did such a terrific job in trying to get me past me fear of bottoming after being raped. But that I just couldn't write it cause it was too personal.

 

Or that Daddy and I fought over the AJ Irons Post because I was so protective of Romann. Because I was so terrible infatuated with him that anyone who went after Him I immediately had to jump on. To the point I actually confronted Daddy and risked getting myself thrown out of the forum standing up for Romann

 

Or that Joey and I have discussed the hirers who enjoy hiring him because they perceive his rough street persona which I have said is not all that is there. That he actually has a very intelligent personality and we have on many occassions discussed his real understanding of escorting and I have learned alot from those discussions

 

Or perhaps we should discuss that I supported on the post the sending you of money because I belivevd you were being stalked. and even supported others who I will not name, unless they decide to. In sending you cash. and That I tried to figure a way to get you to fly to NY and get you a hotel so you could see clients here safely away from the "stalker" and try to make some money so you wouldn't have to live out of your car.

 

Really Ryan... I do not understand why I have to defend myself here... or why any of my private conversations with an escort, you... even though I am not ashamed of them... should need to be aired publicly. Now I assume you are next going discuss my sexual technique. Im fairly new so Still have a lot to learn. Often Gag when giving oral. Not really that great at it but Im trying. Still working on those bottoming skills. I really enjoy it but haven't had enough practice to be lose yet. Also always get nervous the old demons are gona come back and raise their ugly heads so I tend to tighten up and then it hurts. Then again we never got there so I guess you wouldn't have known that. Pride myself on Kissing, always thought I was fairly good. but then who am I to judge. Not a huge Dick, very self conscious of the fact Im a grower not a shower. Are there any other private details about me you would like to have made public. Or is that enough

 

Now

 

Your sharing with me was presented with a much different tone, and I was to feel privileged for being liked so well and getting a review from you. I would only expose what you said about the people I know are strong enough to handle it. You are a smooth talker tomcat, and seem to have a gift for back peddling on a moments notice. Would you like to share with the class who the absolutely nastiest posters are that I should avoid at all costs... I can't bring myself to do that, I don't know them well enough to determine the amount of pain it would cause them to swallow it.. Those are the guys I feel are most deserving of unconditional love and affection. I never refuse clients because they are too nasty, thats who I am here for. My sexual services may be limited in some areas, but I will go and offer them as much of me as I am able. They are human beings just as deserving and in need of love as you are. Hiding the truth is never something I have been good at. I am a loving and compassionate sensitive man, with a very strong spirit. and because I possess those attributes, does not make me a pushover or a subservient victom. I will starve to death before I sell out. No amout of money or material success could bully me into tolerating the superior postion taken by the gold wielders on this board.

[BewareofNick]

Well Never one for being shy.... I am the "Unexpected, not suprising, underhanded, cleverly protected by a well crafted persona." Ryan and I had a marvelous time together. Unfortunately between daddy's being down and what everyone knows has been my building "coming out" I was delayed in filing his review which was quite spectacular if I do say so myself. Apparently either I or the system ate that review and it failed to submit.

 

Rather than ask me about it...Ryan felt he would rather charge me with "my true colors" coming out. Not sure which those are but there it is. I must admit that after reading his "new Cadence" post I did not like being seen as one of the men who diminished him spiritually by hiring for a sexual experience rather than just to fill the lonely hours of my life with his company. Honestly as I said before I hire for both.

 

When I review, which I take a great deal of time and thought in doing, I do not just slap together a couple paragraphs about the time or regurgitate verbatim the positions and actions. I try to take the time to describe the connection, the feeling, the responses and really give the "next guy" a view at what sharing time with the escort is like. I truly believe the review is one of the best marketing tools any escort can have and for those men whom I have hired to touch my life in a special way, I try to pay that back with expressing my pleasure at having met them. These were all things I would anxiously have done for Ryan as the experience during the hire was quite memorable. Unfortunately, this after-hire has also been memorable and not in such a positive way.

 

I hope that all these things work out for Ryan and that he has a successful career in whatever sort of escorting or other professional capacity he chooses to pursue. However I feel that any review at this point would be superfluous, as I have now told him privately before this. One, because it would describe an experience he is not intending to provide any longer and Two, because I can not in good conscious give the review and not mention the drama that has now followed the meeting. I am sorry he feels this was necessary but perhaps there is a place where keeping with "southern hospitality" would have been the better road, less traveled or not.

 

How utterly convenient for you that the dog ate your homework. I am sure you followed up right away to see if all that time and effort had somehow been saved since you put so much of your self into writing Ryan's review.

 

Funny, I didn't get that Ryan was referring to you as a lonely pathetic old queen specifically, but it certainly speaks volumes of one's self image if someone identified with it and felt offended.

[Guest RyanCade]

Hmmm. Yes lets air my dirty laudry a little more. That David SF really wanted a review because he did such a terrific job in trying to get me past me fear of bottoming after being raped. But that I just couldn't write it cause it was too personal.

 

Or that Daddy and I fought over the AJ Irons Post because I was so protective of Romann. Because I was so terrible infatuated with him that anyone who went after Him I immediately had to jump on. To the point I actually confronted Daddy and risked getting myself thrown out of the forum standing up for Romann

 

Or that Joey and I have discussed the hirers who enjoy hiring him because they perceive his rough street persona which I have said is not all that is there. That he actually has a very intelligent personality and we have on many occassions discussed his real understanding of escorting and I have learned alot from those discussions

 

Or perhaps we should discuss that I supported on the post the sending you of money because I belivevd you were being stalked. and even supported others who I will not name, unless they decide to. In sending you cash. and That I tried to figure a way to get you to fly to NY and get you a hotel so you could see clients here safely away from the "stalker" and try to make some money so you wouldn't have to live out of your car.

 

Really Ryan... I do not understand why I have to defend myself here... or why any of my private conversations with an escort, you... even though I am not ashamed of them... should need to be aired publicly. Now I assume you are next going discuss my sexual technique. Im fairly new so Still have a lot to learn. Often Gag when giving oral. Not really that great at it but Im trying. Still working on those bottoming skills. I really enjoy it but haven't had enough practice to be lose yet. Also always get nervous the old demons are gona come back and raise their ugly heads so I tend to tighten up and then it hurts. Then again we never got there so I guess you wouldn't have known that. Pride myself on Kissing, always thought I was fairly good. but then who am I to judge. Not a huge Dick, very self conscious of the fact Im a grower not a shower. Are there any other private details about me you would like to have made public. Or is that enough

 

Now

 

and lets just clarify, we never "got" there because you said you didn't think it was a good idea, don't insinuate the service wasn't offered. :-)

[NYTomcat]

How utterly convenient for you that the dog ate your homework. I am sure you followed up right away to see if all that time and effort had somehow been saved since you put so much of your self into writing Ryan's review.

 

Funny, I didn't get that Ryan was referring to you as a lonely pathetic old queen specifically, but it certainly speaks volumes of one's self image if someone identified with it and felt offended.

 

It most certainly has been saved Nick and it will never be seen after this. Of that you can be sure. Never said I was a lonely old queen, thought that was your department. But yeah My self image has some work to be done. Which all in all... is none of anyone's heres concern. My point exactly.

[NYTomcat]

and lets just clarify, we never "got" there because you said you didn't think it was a good idea, don't insinuate the service wasn't offered. :-)

 

Unlike you I am not discussing or insinuating anything regarding our time together. In fact I think thats what started this. At this point I wont discuss it. Review it, or comment on it. period. Ive said what I had to say. service performed, payment received, transaction done.

[Guest RyanCade]

Why don't you show it to daddy???? You lied about submitting it, why wouldn't you lie about the arduous task and of composing it and the enormous amount of your time you so selflessly devoted to it? Why did you make up something sweet I said in a conversation that never took place. Why did you bump my travel ads continuously, you were so proud of yourself for that. You didn't bump one after we met. you had all the time in the world to write the review, lengthy emails and text message upon text message to me privately but avoided public comment making a wide range of excuses for not doing so... You found time for everything but that report you promised publicly... I think I got it, your experience was so great that in order to do justice and write a fair review, it would have either been shorted and disappointed me or have to be one you would not want the love of your life Romann to read. Or maybe you really do risk it all and go to great lengths to promote and protect your first and favorite escort. ... My job is done here the hat club can have this one... Don't ever judge a book by the cover I will say that I was very hurt and embarrassed to have allowed myself to become so vulnerable and my ego got in the way... You were correct when you said I put too much in a review from you.. I wish you the best and there was absolutely nothing wrong with your sexual talents, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and did not find you deficient in that area in the slightest... I have addressed my issues and I am done.

[MsGuy]

... it certainly speaks volumes of one's self image if someone identified with it and felt offended.

 

The post contained sufficient information to identify the target. BoN, I find your post offensive and senseless.

[+ ArVaGuy]

I swore to myself I would not post in this thread but the overnight comments direct me to break that oath.

 

Do any of the old timers here get a sense of déjà vu regarding this situation with Ryan? At the risk of being branded as part of the cabal, Ryan’s behavior of the last several weeks reminds me of Devon from San Francisco circa 2003/2004.

 

For those who don’t recall and/or are new here post 2004, Devon was an incredible escort from San Francisco and one of the best hires one could experience. Devon was an incredibly great writer maintaining a blog long before such were common. Over time he revealed other sides of his persona that became troubling to many here. He became accusatory, belligerent, and just down right unappealing attacking posters, clients and anyone who disagreed with him. One poster, Jackhammer, went so far to speculate in 2004 as to if Devon had been kidnapped and replaced by some crack-head.

 

To make a long story short, in a sense Devon was kidnapped and replaced with someone else. Turns out he was diagnosed as bipolar and exhibiting Multiple Personality Disorder as well as a drug problem. At one point he was institutionalized as the high drama unfolded. I do believe over time Devon had improved but don’t recall the last update as to his status. I certainly hope that his life is better now.

 

Ryan, it is very apparent that you are troubled by many of the complex issues in your life. In many respects you are creating your own Hell. Unfortunately, you wish to drag others – a former client for example – in to share it with you. No doubt you will be offended by this post and that will be regrettable but understandable. I will also be so bold as to suggest that you disengage from escorting as well as this message board and seek treatment for whatever it is that is causing you such emotional torment.

 

Ryan, may you one day find the tranquility you so desperately seek.

[best hotel]

Tom......hang in there, man.......i have been where you are now and i know how much it sucks.....message board attacks are too drama-focused to let them get to you....m

[Guest RyanCade]

The post contained sufficient information to identify the target. BoN, I find your post offensive and senseless.

 

The post contained sufficient information to identify the target. BoN, I find your post offensive and senseless.

 

 

Now I thought I was done, but I simply can't resist... Yes Daddy I am willingly participating in the flame war fully aware of it's possible affects. I know I started it. and the only one I feel any remorse for is the subject of my original post. Tomcat, I do want to believe he did not mean it, but the line in the sand is too deep and irrefutable..

 

I can probably be compared to MANY very intelligent escorts who came to find a gauntlet of miserable men set out to overpower and intimidate them into "submission" and not the fun kind... There simply are a few of us strong willed and intelligent enough to stand up to the ill behaved bullies. We are like horses that can't be broke. Before it's over the horse gets the snot kicked out of them and many inhumane tactics may be used in an attempt to break their spirit, but eventually THE HORSE WINS and is turned out to graze. For me it is a bit different winning isn't the most important, for me it's about principles that most HUMANS instinctively follow. They go hand in hand with the desire to live in a cohesive manner earning that basic level of respect we all want others to show us. Respect cannot be demanded it must be earned.

 

MSGUY is a perfect example of the type of self righteous, ego driven, contentious, bully that dwell here in cyberspace. Seemingly just waiting for his next opportunity to taunt an escort. Offering up irrational and narrow minded statements, flaunting his glaring ego, which usually indicates a serious inferiority complex.

 

Another prime example of this type arrogance is IMRTHR I am shocked he hasn't tossed in his daggers, I can tell you that when he does, it won't be long he will thank someone else for their thoughtful intelligent post, seemingly trying to take credit and adopt the post as his own sentiment.

 

Men of this type cannot be reasoned with they will stand by their asinine and utterly ignorant, narrow minded way of thinking, like a mule standing in a thicket of briers he hawing making a............ enough said..

 

It seems to be a common misconception, that I am an ill tempered angry unhappy and sad man. I would like to attempt to share my position with those who are capable and open to try to understand it. I am often frustrated by the need to ceaselessly rewrite explain and define and remind the board of my chosen word and also defining the words the troublemakers replace and distort my words into and my reason for not choosing those specific words. It is so common for these guys to read my post and alter it to accommodate their need for fodder and contention. I am very driven by passion, I believe wholeheartedly in anything I take the time to engage in. I choose my words very carefully, as I believe in being forthright in type and have learned that if you leave room for misinterpretation those more less bystanders are left staring in awe at an elephant when you were actually writing about a bluejay, and that is precisely how words are bastardized and distorted to feed the hyenas.

 

The word conflicted has been replaced with the word diminished and the word with has been replaced with the word by, after my words were "translated" they were then conveyed to bystanders as my words. Conflicted with my spiritual life-vers-my spiritual life being diminished by, are very different statements... am I to defend and explain or allow the contenders to pass off presumptuous and inaccurate conclusions as to my position on each issue they get a hold of?? They either lack of ability or the willingness to take the time to read and comprehend the words I choose and post on something I "actually" said. Why not confront me on something I actually represent and find important enough to devote my time to debate in this open forum. I spend most of my time reexplaining the same misconstrued message.

 

My writing style is easily mistaken for having an angry inflection, I believe it's because I do make every attempt to make my message VERY clear and irrefutable, otherwise I would find myself giving up in frustration as many do when they find it impossible to dig out of the proverbial hole they are tossed in and taunted by the disorderly arrogant personalities that dwell here and feed on such counterproductive and undermining and unnecessary frenzies. Lacking the benefit of eye contact body language and voice inflection I can't do much about the tone my clarity infers. My apologies

[Guest RyanCade]

Tom......hang in there, man.......i have been where you are now and i know how much it sucks.....message board attacks are too drama-focused to let them get to you....m

 

The alternative for an escort to expose and or confront a client with regard to foolish, unfair games is what??? any suggestions...

[BewareofNick]

The post contained sufficient information to identify the target. BoN, I find your post offensive and senseless.

 

The New Cadence post contains absolutely nothing that singled out tomcat or anyone else. Did you even read it?

[Guest RyanCade]

I swore to myself I would not post in this thread but the overnight comments direct me to break that oath.

 

Do any of the old timers here get a sense of déjà vu regarding this situation with Ryan? At the risk of being branded as part of the cabal, Ryan’s behavior of the last several weeks reminds me of Devon from San Francisco circa 2003/2004.

 

For those who don’t recall and/or are new here post 2004, Devon was an incredible escort from San Francisco and one of the best hires one could experience. Devon was an incredibly great writer maintaining a blog long before such were common. Over time he revealed other sides of his persona that became troubling to many here. He became accusatory, belligerent, and just down right unappealing attacking posters, clients and anyone who disagreed with him. One poster, Jackhammer, went so far to speculate in 2004 as to if Devon had been kidnapped and replaced by some crack-head.

 

To make a long story short, in a sense Devon was kidnapped and replaced with someone else. Turns out he was diagnosed as bipolar and exhibiting Multiple Personality Disorder as well as a drug problem. At one point he was institutionalized as the high drama unfolded. I do believe over time Devon had improved but don’t recall the last update as to his status. I certainly hope that his life is better now.

 

Ryan, it is very apparent that you are troubled by many of the complex issues in your life. In many respects you are creating your own Hell. Unfortunately, you wish to drag others – a former client for example – in to share it with you. No doubt you will be offended by this post and that will be regrettable but understandable. I will also be so bold as to suggest that you disengage from escorting as well as this message board and seek treatment for whatever it is that is causing you such emotional torment.

 

Ryan, may you one day find the tranquility you so desperately seek.

 

I find tranquility during my morning meditation when I meet with my God and my dog to study spiritual literature, I am able to maintain that tranquility for a good part of the time. I do however find the draining affects of the self proclaimed board lords taking it's toll at times. but the truth is if I n ever got any further in life than I am right now and things never got any better, I could live with it and be reasonably happy. I choose to challenge the mentality I find so abrasive and distasteful, because I can handle the blowback and feel strongly about my right to do so. there is nothing more valuable than people, their feelings and their freedom to conduct their life and speak their mind however they so choose, respect is the only absolutely necessary ingredient thats affords us that right. Without that key element you are then outside the scope of your rights. Somehow a man who works as an escort loses the right to express himself and his observations without being subject to an array of assumptions, labels, and conditions, somehow implied by his willingness to speak his mind. and lack of submission to the disrespectful, irrational, and suppressive guidelines set forth by rude insensitive, and emotionally retarded and miserable men.

 

I am not in any way needing sympathy, or help recovering from the hopeless state you feel I must have reached to be willing to speak my mind in a firm and steadfast manner... You are actually witnessing one of my greatest strengths. I will endure the heat.... and feel good about having done so.

[wayout]

Ryan, I've written this before, but I for one am very happy to see escorts speak their mind in an open and direct fashion on this forum. I may or may not agree with what they say or how they say it, but it is refreshing and helps keep this forum interesting. I wish more would do so rather than worry about being politically correct or how it might impact their business if they say something that is not necessarily in the main stream. This forum soars when there are different ideas discussed and debated, and it crashes when the message being discussed is somehow lost and the focus moves to the messenger.

 

So after re-reading the OP, I am wondering if you can help clarify for me what the real underlying intent is of your message. Besides the specific issue you had with the person who posts here and hired you, am I correct that you are making a point that specific clients and/or posters on the forum should face the same type of scrutiny and discussion as those that regularly appear here for specific escorts? Is your intent to try to somehow level the playing field? If that is the case, then I think in an ideal world that would be great but in reality it is never going to be achieved fully. However, that does not mean it is not a worthy effort, as long as you are prepared for the reaction you will get by those who currently play with the advantage.

[corndog]

Ryan,

Where is the unconditional love that your new cadence, Jeremy, specializes in? I'm feeling that your love for NYTomcat was very much conditioned on a great review.

[BewareofNick]

It most certainly has been saved Nick and it will never be seen after this. Of that you can be sure. Never said I was a lonely old queen, thought that was your department. But yeah My self image has some work to be done. Which all in all... is none of anyone's heres concern. My point exactly.

 

No one's questioning the right or need to defend yourself from accusations just or unjust. Putting yourself up on the cross however is another story entirely.

[Diverdan]

Nothing good can come from continuing this thread... I suggest that it be terminated and taken down.