ciao, papi

[Guest elwood]

jizz,

best of luck

[Guest DCeBOY]

i'm glad your attempt was unsuccessful. good for you for seeking help. i hope it all works out for you.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

well, the recently absent jizzdepapi has returned to bid fond farewells amid some happy (for him, anyway) news.

 

just returned from 10-day inpatient treatment for depression following failed suicide attempt (sorry, Ethan and Reggie). after much wiggling and denial, 'fessing up to sex and love addiction, which is largely responsible for my desperate attempt.

 

for this man, anyway, hiring hustlers and escorts has been one way of acting out a lot of self-hate. and progression of the disease has led me further into dangerous and humiliating circumstances that i just can't tolerate any longer.

 

so, i thought i'd step out here and just say goodby. there's a few folks here that i really will miss but i don't think it would be good for me--or for my sexual abstinence--to participate in a forum for hookers and johns. and i'm hopeful that i can achieve sexual abstinence and participate in close and productive relationships with myself, family and friends once again absent self-destructive fantasy and sexual behavior.

 

i wish you social 'sexers' good luck out here and lots of fun; for anyone who truly needs help like me, i hope you seek it out.

 

best ever,

jizzdepapi

 

p.s.: yup, i enabled hustlers on the street to buy drugs. sick and manipulative behavior on my part for which i will need to make amends one day, i guess.

p.p.s.: trip to colombia on hold for at least one year. time to recover here--12 step groups, therapy and anti-depressants. and political activity, which i have always found to be very spiritual.

[Guest Charon]

Best of luck to you in discovering your joy.

[Guest DCeBOY]

>P.S.: You coming to New Haven?

 

i don't think so. yale's the top law school in the country, but for international law, NYU is tops. i'm guessing that's gonna be the most likely option for me.

mind you, i'm currently gearing up for a lawsuit against the university i attend, so we'll see what happens.

 

anyway, good luck with things. folks have made statements about the disingenuousness of claiming it is an illness versus taking personal responsibility for it. i'm not sure that really matters. the important thing is that you're getting help & you're stopping behavior that's destructive to both yourself & others. seek help first & when the danger's over, then you can bother with assigning blame.

 

oh good lord, i almost sound like a tree-hugger, huh? :*

[Guest 7Zach]

a hard road, thinking of you, best.

[Guest chubsksesc]

Best of luck and God bless

[Guest Les]

Best of luck...We'll miss you jizz!

take good care,

Les

[Barry]

From one who has been there, my heart and thoughts are with you.

[ad rian]

>for this man, anyway, hiring hustlers and escorts has been

>one way of acting out a lot of self-hate. and progression of

>the disease has led me further into dangerous and

>humiliating circumstances that i just can't tolerate any

>longer.

 

I must admit, I don't remember his posts. I am sorry for his situation and wish him well of course. That said, allowing for the fact that his was intended as a personal not general view, do other folks out there actually agree that this conclusion holds true in their own lives or generally? Or are most of just into healthy recreational sex as a hobby? I think it is more fun than bowling or sailing. I don't tink it has to be about self-hate. Opinions?

[Rick Munroe]

>Opinions?

 

I think equating hiring escorts with sex addiction is like equating loving food with eating disorders; it's a problem for some clients but not most.

 

Good luck, jizz!

[Guest regulation]

Jizz, is there a recovery program for people who are addicted to dramatizing themselves? If so, please join it. Apologizing to Ethan and me for failing to kill yourself proves that you need it.

 

What you should be apologizing for is the nasty remarks you made to

Rod and me simply because we said hiring homeless kids to have sex with you is not a good thing to do. Apparently you now agree that we were right. Have you also changed your mind about congratulating married men for cheating on their wives with escorts? If so, that would be a sign that you are leaving the world where the topsy-turvy morality of hookers and johns prevails and entering the real world at long last. I hope so.

[duke37]

Regulation,

 

Congratulations! You won the race to see who could kick Jizz first when he was down.

 

Do you feel better?

 

Jeff

[Guest bottomboykk]

Regulation, that is one of the most disgusting responses I've ever seen on this board, and that's saying a lot! I'll never understand how someone can be so cruel. x(

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation,

>

>Congratulations! You won the race to see who could kick Jizz

>first when he was down.

>

>Do you feel better?

>

>Jeff

 

 

Kick Jizz? How can I do that when he isn't visiting this board any longer? Unless you think he's just jerking everybody around?

 

Sorry to interrupt another of the psychobabble festivals for which this message board is justly noted, but the fact is that Jizz addressed me, not you, by name, and I have every right to respond to what he said. If you can't stand hearing opinions that differ from yours, you shouldn't visit a message board at all. Just turn off your computer and talk to yourself and you need never worry about having to read such things.

 

The particular psychobabble Jizz posted is a popular method these days for people who do bad things to attribute their behavior to an "illness" rather than to something that is intrinsic to themselves. Why take responsibility for your actions when it's so much easier to tell everyone you're sick instead? It's a great scam. I take my hat off to whoever thought of it.

[ad rian]

>I think equating hiring escorts with sex addiction is like

>equating loving food with eating disorders; it's a problem

>for some clients but not most.

>

I agree. Most folks have a sense that if they eat too much of this or that, and don't exercise enough, they will get fat (and yes that standard will be different for each person), or if they eat and throw up, they may starve to death. What about escorting? How much is too much? How much is too little? Is once or twice a month ok? Is once or twice a week too much? How would one know when one has passed from healthy recreation to unhealthy self-loathing? I admit I found the oriinal post scary because it sounded like he was parroting what some doctor said as if it were science. I am not sure I buy it.

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation, that is one of the most disgusting responses

>I've ever seen on this board, and that's saying a lot! I'll

>never understand how someone can be so cruel.

 

 

You can't understand it? But you have no problem understanding how Jizz can say that to him hiring a homeless kid for sex at a cut rate is just like buying a cheap pair of shoes at Payless? Thanks for providing an excellent illustration of what I meant when I used the term "topsy-turvy morality."

[+ deej]

[h3]Woo Hoo![/h3]

 

We're known for psycho-babble! It must be true. Reg says so. And we all know he can never be wrong. Just ask him.

[bluenix]

I wish the guy well, but I have to say, this is does not strike me as the post of a man on the road to recovery. What I read are the words of somebody taking zero responsibility for his actions.

 

Devil-made-me-do-it scenarios don't strike me as promising therapies, never mind abstinence as a cure for unwanted sexual fantasies.

 

It's odd, too, that he would be so forthcoming about his attempted suicide, yet not mention that his father killed himself by gunshot two years ago. (Jizz disclosed this here last summer.) I'm no expert, but wouldn't that figure larger than hookers in an explanation of self-destructive leanings?

 

This poor man needs better help than he's getting.

[+ Lucky]

There are really some merciless sons of bitches here.

Good luck, jizz.

[Houston Bonfires]

Hey Jizz,

 

Through these rose-colored glasses that I proudly wear I only remember all the times you made me laugh and some of the photos you posted that brought me joy.

May we all recover from whatever demons torment us. I personally have found only comfort from the company of the wonderful men I have found on this site. My hell has been driven from other directions.

Be blessed Jizz and be happy.

 

Houston Bonfires.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

irresponsible psychobabble? nah!

 

Thanks for the kind comments I've received on this thread and in personal messages. I'll only check this thread for several more days.

 

Thanks to the poster who was so sure that it was, in fact, my father's suicide, not my sex addiction, that brought me to my predicament. I would suggest it is both but overwhelmingly my sex addiction. Only expert therapy, which in fact I am receiving--thanks--and recovery will tell for sure I guess. Thanks Reggie for pointing out about the homeless kids that I did, in fact, take advantage of. I think my original post mentionedthat. Hope you don't mind if I find the rest of your comments irrelevant and tiresome at this time.

 

And to those who think that that sex addiction is psychobabble designed to let irresponsible culprits off the hook, I'd present the following. Actually a difficult regimen to follow and one designed to help addicts take full responsibility for their actions.

 

Sex and Love Addicts is one of several 12-step groups modeled after A.A. that has enabled many sex addicts regain control of their lives.

 

THE 12 STEPS OF SEX AND LOVE ADDICTS ANONYMOUS

1. We admitted we were powerless over sex and love addiction—that our lives had become unmanageable.

 

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

 

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God.

 

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

 

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

 

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

 

7. Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings.

 

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

 

9. Made direct amends to such people whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

 

10. Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

 

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with a Power greater than ourselves, praying only for knowledge of God's will for us and the power to carry that out.

 

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to sex and love addicts, and to practice these principles in all areas of our lives.

 

http://www.slaafws.org

 

Again, thanks for the kind wishes.

jizz

[bluenix]

>There are really some merciless sons of bitches here.

>Good luck, jizz.

 

Lucky, you are confusing mercy with absence of personal responsibility to one's fellow human beings. I mean, what, really, does "Good luck, jizz" cost you?

 

Let's say a guy named jizz has cancer. Against your better judgement he tells you that he is all better and is just stopping by to bid you a fond farewell as he goes off to begin life anew. Do you wave and say, "Good luck, jizz!"

 

Me, I think there's some wiggle room here as to who is the sonofabitch.

[Guest 7Zach]

I really hated most of Jizz's politics, and sometimes he was over the top. But he never deserved the hate, animosity and rank behavior of Ethan, and this stuff above. His pics were fun, even the cow when he was called on the carpet for wasting bandwidth, and he put thought and effort in his posts. As far as the gunshot, I never heard of it, and couldn't find any common word in the search function. Ditto Payless.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

<GULP, EAT CROW> Thanks, Ethan.

P.S.: You coming to New Haven?