Has purplekow been banned?

[KMEM]

Just curious.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest greatness]

He seems to be around

 

I hope not and he seems to be posting... I don't think he did anything to be banned....

[+ glutes]

What happened to the post of the LA escort getting arrested, again??

[josephga]

What happened to the post of the LA escort getting arrested, again??

 

lol it was deleted again

[jgoo]

Deleted Thread

 

I am fairly new to here so I don't know all the rules and regs that well but I don't understand why the thread would have been deleted. I had been following it and didn't see anything wrong in what was posted. Was that it referenced another message board? Or that the other message board identified the escort (both his working and real name)? It seems like a valid issue to raise up so I can't quite understand the problem and if some comments crossed the line couldn't those have been deleted rather than the entire thread?

[Scorpio]

Apparently so! If you pull up one of his posts, the title under his screen name now reads Banned.

[alanalt]

Skating on thin ice?

 

jgoo, it's become shiningly obvious that ANY reference (no matter how obscure) that names (real or 'stage' name) a certain escort who had certain incident happen to him, said reference will result in the thread's deletion and the banning of the poster(s) in question. Indeed, I suspect this thread's moving rapidly towards the edge of that particular cliff once more...

 

Now you may disagree with the policy as it's being implemented (as I do), but as I said in the now-vanished thread - I accept that it's Daddy's sandbox and he gets to determine both the rules and who gets to play here.

 

And that's all I'm going to say on the subject in public on this board...

 

Alan

[+ Lucky]

It would certainly be a sad day in Hooville if this were true.

[Boston Guy]

Who are the moderators these days?

[JT Brooklyn]

Not too many people who have visited MER donot know by now who the LaLaLand Guy was.

 

Shades of "Heidi Fleiss and her Black Book" I'm sure are on the way!

[Guest greatness]

No~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

I come here everyday to read Purplekow, Lucky and other frequent visitors' posts I don't think he did anything last time I checked... Please please bring him back... I don't think it is in his character to do something bad on this message board. Who's going to feed those abandon cats and dogs if he is not here....

 

Apparently so! If you pull up one of his posts, the title under his screen name now reads Banned.

[+ honcho]

Is banning permanent?

 

I would like to know.

 

I used the search feature in the FAQ for "reveal" "identity" "ban" and didn't turn up anything pertinent.

 

In lawyer-speak (I'm not one, but have been on a jury or two) the defense stipulates that Daddy has the right to run his sandbox any way he wants, but it would be useful to know the rules in advance.

 

Some other considerations in sentencing might be whether or not this was a first

offense, whether or not it was disclosing something that might be otherwise readily known, whether it was an indirect reference (posting a URL that lead to the disclosure) or if the offending article was copied entirely.

[Scorpio]

 

I used the search feature in the FAQ for "reveal" "identity" "ban" and didn't turn up anything pertinent.

 

As far as I know, the FAQ area is a software default. The sites terms of service are not posted there. Instead, you need to scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the "Terms of Service" button.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/tos.html

[Guy Fawkes]

I would like to know.

 

I used the search feature in the FAQ for "reveal" "identity" "ban" and didn't turn up anything pertinent.

 

In lawyer-speak (I'm not one, but have been on a jury or two) the defense stipulates that Daddy has the right to run his sandbox any way he wants, but it would be useful to know the rules in advance.

 

Some other considerations in sentencing might be whether or not this was a first

offense, whether or not it was disclosing something that might be otherwise readily known, whether it was an indirect reference (posting a URL that lead to the disclosure) or if the offending article was copied entirely.

 

Why certainly... Right at the bottom of the page "Terms of Service" or the direct link: http://www.companyofmen.org/tos.html

 

Look for "Personal Information"

[+ Lucky]

Well, there you go. If guilt is not inferred, then the information is useless in terms of a hiring decision.

[Guest EuropTravl]

Well, there you go. If guilt is not inferred, then the information is useless in terms of a hiring decision.

 

 

When this news makes the "normal" gay "press", and it has (Naked Sword (thesword.com), Jason Curious, etc...) this place squashing any mention of it looks ridiculous. The person in question pals around with the semi-famous in Hollywood and any mention of an arrest is verboten. Nonsense. Worthless. Stupid. You know, being incarcerated probably IS important in "terms of a hiring decision". Might I suggest prison bars over the escort's picture?

[KMEM]

I don't think there will be much "hiring" going on while the escort in question resides in jail.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[+ ArVaGuy]

This is an unfortunate situation that garners interest due to what many already know of the escort in question personality and character traits.

 

It could be concluded that efforts to suppress information and negative truths has resulted in an unintended effect. Human nature being what it is, people in this community of forums (I include MER in this group) will root out for themselves all the ugly details. Most everyone will "know" the truth and then pretend to dance around it. Just like we are doing in this tread and others.

[+ Lucky]

"Just like we are doing in this tread and others."

 

But at least we are treading lightly!

[Boston Guy]

I've thought about this question on and off for the last day or so because I think it presents -- or, perhaps, should present -- a difficult question for the escort sites. A site that deals with escorts and clients should try to balance the often opposing interests of those two groups. But there are some issues where the interests of the two constituencies are so far apart that a site has to eventually come down on one side or the other.

 

If an escort murdered a client and got off on what seemed to everyone to be a technicality and then resumed escorting, it would seem reasonable and even important for escort review sites to make a big and public deal of that. Not doing so would endanger clients and expose the site to be a shill, something that is most definitely not in the interest of the site's continued viability. On the other hand, if an escort is arrested for littering and sentenced to 100 hours of community service, I can't see how it's in anyone's interest for that to be made public.

 

The problem occurs in the middle ground. At what point does alerting potential clients to something that is serious and incriminating about an escort become more important than preserving the escort's privacy? Further, at what point would it be considered legitimate to publish an escort's real name? The murder in Pennsylvania clearly fell on the far side of that line but it seems that there are things an escort can do or crimes an escort can commit that are short of murder but still should be brought to the attention of potential clients. I don't where that line is but would certainly expect that anything at all that might pose a risk to the safety of a client should be considered publishable. Turned around, there should be some standard for actions that, once taken by an escort, strip that escort of the right to some privacy. A policy that calls for complete privacy for all at all times no matter the circumstances probably does not serve any kind of review site well.

 

I've questioned my own motives here for I do not care for the young man in question. I've needed to separate that from the issues of privacy and have so far been on the side of according him large amounts of privacy. However, there are parts of this that are troubling and I expect that they are probably troubling to Daddy and moderators, too, for they are all bright and thoughtful individuals.

 

I do wish the best possible outcome for this young man. One can envision possible outcomes that allow him to straighten out his life with this episode standing as a stark warning that he needs to consider his future carefully. On the other hand, one can envision other outcomes that are not nearly so favorable and that would end his escort career immediately.

 

In the general case, I think I would favor a policy that calls for publishing at least some details if an escort is convicted of any crime of violence or a crime that results in incarceration for more than a very short period of time. Society at large views events like this to be occasions where our normal standards of privacy are cast aside in favor of public information and that's probably a good thing.

 

Having said all that, I hope he's doing ok. Jail is not a good place to be at any time but might be an especially unhappy place for a young, attractive gay man.

 

BG

[Guest greatness]

well

 

We should be concerned about him and I feel sorry for him. Funny thing is people who bought drugs from him are OK. I think people who bought drugs from him are as guilty as he is. He would not be in there if they didn't buy drugs from him. I have seen a lot clever people who exploits others but rarely get caught. They make other people do a dirty work for them and line up a fall person. In the end a young guy who thinks he is smart but actually not end up in jail whereas the real culprit enjoys drinking a glass of wine in his comfortable living room. They are now out there to find another vulnerable younger guy to exploit for their pleasure. When will this stop?

I have met many smart people in my life and I have witnessed many horrible things they have done to reach their goals. It is just unfortunate... They retired with millions during the crisis and doing very well ... They are planning the next big thing... It is the not smart ones like this guy who is paying the price... Where is justice?.. Oh not Andrew Justice.. I do miss him though...

 

I've thought about this question on and off for the last day or so because I think it presents -- or, perhaps, should present -- a difficult question for the escort sites. A site that deals with escorts and clients should try to balance the often opposing interests of those two groups. But there are some issues where the interests of the two constituencies are so far apart that a site has to eventually come down on one side or the other.

 

If an escort murdered a client and got off on what seemed to everyone to be a technicality and then resumed escorting, it would seem reasonable and even important for escort review sites to make a big and public deal of that. Not doing so would endanger clients and expose the site to be a shill, something that is most definitely not in the interest of the site's continued viability. On the other hand, if an escort is arrested for littering and sentenced to 100 hours of community service, I can't see how it's in anyone's interest for that to be made public.

 

The problem occurs in the middle ground. At what point does alerting potential clients to something that is serious and incriminating about an escort become more important than preserving the escort's privacy? Further, at what point would it be considered legitimate to publish an escort's real name? The murder in Pennsylvania clearly fell on the far side of that line but it seems that there are things an escort can do or crimes an escort can commit that are short of murder but still should be brought to the attention of potential clients. I don't where that line is but would certainly expect that anything at all that might pose a risk to the safety of a client should be considered publishable. Turned around, there should be some standard for actions that, once taken by an escort, strip that escort of the right to some privacy. A policy that calls for complete privacy for all at all times no matter the circumstances probably does not serve any kind of review site well.

 

I've questioned my own motives here for I do not care for the young man in question. I've needed to separate that from the issues of privacy and have so far been on the side of according him large amounts of privacy. However, there are parts of this that are troubling and I expect that they are probably troubling to Daddy and moderators, too, for they are all bright and thoughtful individuals.

 

I do wish the best possible outcome for this young man. One can envision possible outcomes that allow him to straighten out his life with this episode standing as a stark warning that he needs to consider his future carefully. On the other hand, one can envision other outcomes that are not nearly so favorable and that would end his escort career immediately.

 

In the general case, I think I would favor a policy that calls for publishing at least some details if an escort is convicted of any crime of violence or a crime that results in incarceration for more than a very short period of time. Society at large views events like this to be occasions where our normal standards of privacy are cast aside in favor of public information and that's probably a good thing.

 

Having said all that, I hope he's doing ok. Jail is not a good place to be at any time but might be an especially unhappy place for a young, attractive gay man.

 

BG

[+ deej]

The problem occurs in the middle ground. At what point does alerting potential clients to something that is serious and incriminating about an escort become more important than preserving the escort's privacy? Further, at what point would it be considered legitimate to publish an escort's real name?

 

Don't stop there. At what point is it appropriate to out a client? Same issue.

 

Our standard is well-established: public record. When a news outlet of record ties an escort's working name to his real name, it becomes a public record story. Note that this does not include gossip blogs or (in the immortal words of Tampa Yankee) handwriting on bathroom stall walls.

 

Do not measure this issue in terms of the current case. The only way for us to lift this veil is to forever take away any pretense of privacy from every poster here.

 

The privacy we protect is your own.

[JT Brooklyn]

I for one Totally Agree with all that was written by Bostonguy!

 

Both Daddys Members and MER Members being educated as to the situation can make their choice about future Hookups with the guy in question.

 

Those just cruising Rentboy etc..without the Benefit of "Current Events"..I'm guessing "What ya don't know don't bother ya"!

 

I know for a fact there's some colorful character's "Working It" with some colorful History's even more so than our Newest Lost Boy!

[Boston Guy]

Don't stop there. At what point is it appropriate to out a client? Same issue.

 

Our standard is well-established: public record. When a news outlet of record ties an escort's working name to his real name, it becomes a public record story. Note that this does not include gossip blogs or (in the immortal words of Tampa Yankee) handwriting on bathroom stall walls.

 

Do not measure this issue in terms of the current case. The only way for us to lift this veil is to forever take away any pretense of privacy from every poster here.

 

The privacy we protect is your own.

 

Oh, I agree. As I noted above (twice, I think), I've supported the actions taken to protect his privacy. In some regards, my comments were more about the general case than the current one -- the instance where an escort might be considered a danger of some sort to an unsuspecting client.

 

Regarding client privacy, I also agree. There is certainly a point at which the actions of a client would lead me to support stripping away his veil of privacy in order to protect escorts that he might try to contact.

 

BG

[Lookin]

I do wish the best possible outcome for this young man.

 

I hope he's doing ok.

Me too.

 

I also hope none of us ever does anything that lands us in the pokey.