are you supposed to tip?

[AdamSmith]

as for the good life, perhaps not every client is so easy to get along with as you are zipper.

 

Best regards,

kmem

 

[AdamSmith]

So although the hourly fee sounds high, the number of hours they can collect that fee in a week, practically speaking, is probably not that high, and they probably also run into fallow times when there are few calls or calls don't turn into paying clients.

 

Critical point. One well regarded guy told me of a trip to NYC where, over 5 days, he pulled in more than $10,000. But on another trip, multiple last-minute cancellations of overnight bookings cut the take to only enough to cover his costs. The escort profession is acutely exposed to the whims and vagaries of a small number of clients, compared with many other industries. Maybe upper-end real estate is similar.

[Romann]

Wowzer!

 

Critical point. One well regarded guy told me of a trip to NYC where, over 5 days, he pulled in more than $10,000. But on another trip, multiple last-minute cancellations of overnight bookings cut the take to only enough to cover his costs. The escort profession is acutely exposed to the whims and vagaries of a small number of clients, compared with many other industries. Maybe upper-end real estate is similar.

[BaronArtz]

I read all this with great interest, and have not much to add to this conversation. However, I was intrigued by a recent post of Stephen, Maximum Escorts. He mentioned that even his best performing boys over time may need exposure through other websites to be able to sustain sufficient income - if escorting is all they are doing. To me, that would suggest that even 'stars' struggle over time when the novelty wears off ...

[+ purplekow]

I read all this with great interest, and have not much to add to this conversation. However, I was intrigued by a recent post of Stephen, Maximum Escorts. He mentioned that even his best performing boys over time may need exposure through other websites to be able to sustain sufficient income - if escorting is all they are doing. To me, that would suggest that even 'stars' struggle over time when the novelty wears off ...

 

 

It seems to me that if one uses an agency, more than likely the new flavor of the month will be tasted. If one is hiring independently, unless variety is really his thing, staying with the same tried and true escorts who have supplied excellent service would be more likely. So stars in a constellation might not last as long or shine as brightly as a star in a solar system.

[mansniffing]

Tips––Zipperzone was joking . . .

 

Zipperzone was teasing when he wrote:

 

"Oh at LEAST 50% - 75% if he was really good."

 

CONSERVATIVELY: If moonlighting one hour per day during a five-day week at $250 per hour you can earn $1,250. Not bad for five hours of work.

 

From my point of view the fee charged speaks for itself while tipping is gilding the lily.

[Guest zipperzone]

Zipperzone was teasing when he wrote:

 

"Oh at LEAST 50% - 75% if he was really good."

 

CONSERVATIVELY: If moonlighting one hour per day during a five-day week at $250 per hour you can earn $1,250. Not bad for five hours of work.

 

From my point of view the fee charged speaks for itself while tipping is gilding the lily.

 

Well I'm glad to see that SOMEONE caught on!

[Guest zipperzone]

I see your point. I have seen some escorts do well and do make that much a year. However, they fluctuate and they also have bad times too. I've never seen a millionaire escort just by escorting. Some invest well and make good money out if though.

 

Greatness - That was my whole point. I don't for a second mean to imply that all escorts can reach that level of financial stability. It is the astute business minded ones I was alluding to. They may not even be the "best" or "hottest" escorts, but they have the discipline to keep focused on the basic business and are wise enough to make the money they earn in the sex trade work for them in other ways.

 

Sad but true,there are probably many escorts who only live for today and end up broke with dismal prospects for their future.

[MsGuy]

Last post definitely said with a wink!!!!!!!!!!!

 

"Well I'm glad to see that SOMEONE caught on! "

 

This wasn't enough to give the game away, Zipper?

[Guest LeoWalker]

I just have to reply...

 

a) Zipperzone, I don't expect nor desire tips.

 

b) I know quite a few escorts and really don't trust any of them when they talk about money. Just like most servers I've known...ask them how much they make per day, per week, per month, per year...the numbers never add up together. The ones that do know their numbers...I doubt would ever really tell anyone.

 

c) When I get a cold, just in expenses accrued that I can't recover because I can't work, it costs me on average $750-1500. That's not including lost revenue.

 

d) I love my life. =D

[firsttimer]

I asked the escort I had hired this weekend and he said he expects tips since it's a service offered.

[alanalt]

In the past, I've tipped when I think an escort has gone 'the extra mile', and though I've never used an agency, I think there's a good case to be made in tipping under those circumstances as well. But any independent escort that expects a tip isn't likely to see business from me...

 

Alan

[+ purplekow]

I asked the escort I had hired this weekend and he said he expects tips since it's a service offered.

 

 

Firsttimer is this the same guy who left you hanging for hours? If so, you better not have tipped him or I am going to track you down and slap you hard on the back of the head until your brains start working. Tips are always optional and should never be expected.

A lawyer offers a service, a doctor, a nurse, an accountant all offer services. Persons in those professions don't want tips and won't take them, if they really are professionals.

[Guest greatness]

well

 

I won't go that far but I hope you didn't tip him despite the fact that you waited for him many hours.

 

If so, you better not have tipped him or I am going to track you down and slap you hard on the back of the head until your brains start working.

[firsttimer]

I did tip him 50 bucks (some of that was for parking at the hotel) because I'm new to this and didn't want to leave a bad impression or anything. I've been reading through the threads here on the forum and most people it seemed tipped something. Plus the escort said he expected it when I asked in the beginning. Since it was my first time I'm just going with the path of least resistance and didn't want to cause trouble. So yes, I spent even more money on this than I really wanted too x.x

[Guest greatness]

well

 

You are so nice... Yes it is better to give and be generous. Good luck with your future hires.

 

I did tip him 50 bucks (some of that was for parking at the hotel) because I'm new to this and didn't want to leave a bad impression or anything. I've been reading through the threads here on the forum and most people it seemed tipped something. Plus the escort said he expected it when I asked in the beginning. Since it was my first time I'm just going with the path of least resistance and didn't want to cause trouble. So yes, I spent even more money on this than I really wanted too x.x

[Dave]

it's funny... all this talk about how much an escort earns, as if that's related to tipping him. a tip, to me, is a statement: "dude, you went above and beyond the regular level of service... thank you."

 

i tip the guys who wash my car because they do it so well. i tipped the electrician who went out of his way when installing recessed lights for me. and i tipped the owner of the kitchen renovation company i hired, because he was amazing with the installation. yes, even the owner!

 

as for escorting, i definitely appreciate tips from my clients. there, i've said it. but you know what? the person who tips me $50 or $100 is indeed, VERY generous... but i even very much appreciate a $20 tip from someone. hell, even a $10 tip is a sign to me. i recognize that various people have various income levels - so not everyone can tip $100 - but even that ten dollar tip says to me, "thanks, that was great." and i, for one, appreciate getting that message. i work hard to please my clients, and this sort of non-verbal praise, in the form of a tip - no matter how small - enhances the spoken "thank you."

 

so for me, it's not really the amount of tip (although naturally i don't forget the large tippers), it's the symbolic thought behind it.

[Guest greatness]

wow

 

I went to your blog and was amazed how specifically you wrote your terms. That is a very smart thing to do. Good luck with your business!

 

it's funny... all this talk about how much an escort earns, as if that's related to tipping him. a tip, to me, is a statement: "dude, you went above and beyond the regular level of service... thank you."

 

i tip the guys who wash my car because they do it so well. i tipped the electrician who went out of his way when installing recessed lights for me. and i tipped the owner of the kitchen renovation company i hired, because he was amazing with the installation. yes, even the owner!

 

as for escorting, i definitely appreciate tips from my clients. there, i've said it. but you know what? the person who tips me $50 or $100 is indeed, VERY generous... but i even very much appreciate a $20 tip from someone. hell, even a $10 tip is a sign to me. i recognize that various people have various income levels - so not everyone can tip $100 - but even that ten dollar tip says to me, "thanks, that was great." and i, for one, appreciate getting that message. i work hard to please my clients, and this sort of non-verbal praise, in the form of a tip - no matter how small - enhances the spoken "thank you."

 

so for me, it's not really the amount of tip (although naturally i don't forget the large tippers), it's the symbolic thought behind it.

[BaronArtz]

I went to your blog and was amazed how specifically you wrote your terms. That is a very smart thing to do. Good luck with your business!

 

Indeed, that's a thoughtful presentation of your services. I wish more escorts would do that. If you were in NYC, I'd definitely call you.

 

Not sure I can add anything meaningful to the discussions about tips. If a guy is good, I usually give $20 - $40 on top of the agreed upon fee, and I make sure to express my appreciation for their effort. If a guy is memorable, with a potential for repeat business, it's $60-$100 - I want to make sure he remembers me favorably next time I call. In the past, I have bought a small gift such a pair of sneakers, a designer shirt, etc. for guys that I met regularly over an extended period of time. Some guys, however, started abusing that in which case I invariably boot them out ...

[Guest stripperfan]

Kevin - my numbers MAY be optomistic. But on the other hand they may be on the low side.

I'm suggesting a 15 yr working period. In some cases it may be much longer.

The smart escorts declare some income - but as it is mostly an all cash business, nothing can make be believe they declare all income.

Their "investments" can be in many different forms. Real Estate is a prime example. Pay little down, have mtg payments covered by renters and sell for profit when the timing is right. This type of investment carries less chance of an IRS audit, I would think.

 

I doubt there are many, if any escorts who have two $300.00 each day for 6 days per week. I think your numbers are VERY optimistic.

[KMEM]

I doubt there are many, if any escorts who have two $300.00 each day for 6 days per week. I think your numbers are VERY optimistic.

 

I think you are only considering "hourlies". The top escorts have one hourly per day with 23 other hours of "companionship". I certainly understand that many, if not most, of the escorts have appointments, by the hour.

 

There is no free lunch in this scenario. An escort still must schedule many days of companionship per week/month/year in order to make "serious" money. AND, they must live up to the "promise" in their adverts. Also, not necessarily easy.

 

Still, there is the opportunity for superior earnings for such an escort.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest RianB]

hell, even a $10 tip is a sign to me. i recognize that various people have various income levels - so not everyone can tip $100.

 

Claro que si...I have a guy who sees me often and tips 10 bucks everytime. Another fine chap surprises me with his 'extra thankyous'. Bless their cotton briefs...

[mansniffing]

To Tip or Not

 

After reading all the responses about tipping I must say that the idea of hiring an escort who has great expectations can be a turn off and comparisons can certainly be odious. Indeed, generally, we do tend to tip blue collar workers––cabbies, repairmen, delivery men, plumbers, bellhops, maintenance workers, waiters, etc. As for professional white collar workers––doctors, lawyers. etc.––who also provide a service, generally, we do not tip them. Yes, escorts, a separate category, do provide a service and they do so for a very generous hourly rate agreed upon in advance. Why gild the lily and make superfluous additions to what is already complete?

 

One gift creates appreciation, many gifts create expectation.

––Tony Bright

 

Prospect is often better than possession.

––Thomas Fuller

 

The best part of our lives we pass in counting on what is to come.

––William Hazlitt

 

I have no expectation of making a hit every time I come to bat.

––Franklin D. Roosevelt

[Guest christiancoxtx]

I appreciate tips when the client feels exceptionally satisfied. No mention of the subject ever comes up in a session. Some do it, some don't. My sincerest thanks to those who can afford generosity. Since it's always mileage may vary with me, I don't grapple for big tips as incentives either.

 

To my knowledge, escorts seldom request tipping as a routine thing with clients. Conversations about business rarely set the desired mood for a session. Unspoken rule, IMO