Is there ever a time when you should NOT write a review?

[Guest JON1265]

>More than likely, considering how repulsive JON his in his

>conduct in the message center (in my opinion, it was all

>this particular escort could do to keep from retching...

>

>I can only imagine his level of repulsivness in person...

 

 

Gee, you call somebody a NAZI once and you get branded repulsive....and what color patch would you have me wear?

[Guest JON1265]

Last night I hire from my local agency, and the guy I hire has been around for awhile and has many glowing reviews on this board. This was my first time with him. His pic is a bit fuzzy on their website - but like I said - all glowing reviews and he was available. So I went for it.

 

I arrived and the minute I saw him I was not attracted to him. But I went through it anyway because I made the appointment and I was there (do you think it would have been in bad taste to say "I changed my mind?")

 

Anywhoo - it was a so-so time...he kissed OK - sucked pretty good - was not a good bottom IMHO - and NEVER got hard. I usually want my escorts to get hard AND to cum - I just did not care if he did. The whole thing was over in like 15-20 mins.

 

Is it fair to review him since I went into the situation not expecting much from it?

 

Just curious on your thoughts...and if you ever had something like this happen to you. (BTW - I don't think he unfairly misrepresented himself - he just did NOTHING for me).

[Guest bottomboykk]

I tend to think that if it's primarily a lack of chemistry that caused the bad time, a review should not be written. In this case, he may have been responding to your cues, intentional or not, that you weren't into him too much, and that may have affected his performance.

 

It probably would have been better to cut it off to begin with, come to terms for reasonable payment for the trouble of setting up an appointment, and part company.

 

I'd just chalk this up to experience and not write a review.

[+ Charlie]

I think it depends on whether you think you are reviewing an escort or an "experience", as deej said in another recent thread. You do have objective information to give about the escort, even if it is only to confirm or contradict certain factual details about him that have been mentioned in the other reviews, or to add something that hasn't been mentioned before. On the other hand, from what you say, you seem more focused on the "experience", but since your perceptions of it seem to concentrate on your contribution to it rather than his, it probably would be better not to write a review. You seem to be bending over backwards to be fair to him, and I assume you would do the same in the review, but if it is more about you than about him, I'm not sure how useful a review would be.

 

Having said that, I'm still always interested in anything people have to say about Premier, which I suspect is the agency in question.

[CT Dick]

>[The guy] has been around for awhile and has many glowing >reviews on this board.

 

First, how many of these were by repeat reviewers who are credible? This could be one of those cases of an escort posting lots of bogus self reviews.

 

Second, if a number of them are legit, your review could add a broader dimension to this guy. We can read that other guys liked him so you are not ruining his rep but you do seem to have some valid complaints worth sharing.

 

Dick

[BewareofNick]

More than likely, considering how repulsive JON his in his conduct in the message center (in my opinion, it was all this particular escort could do to keep from retching...

 

I can only imagine his level of repulsivness in person...

[Guest alanm]

I agree w/ CT Dick about the need for more mixed reviews. Recently, I

have been reading all the reviews, not just the latest. For escorts that were around in '99, their reviews are more interesting with good,

bad and in between comments for even the best escorts. Since then people tend to review to write all glowing reviews or all negative reviews. I know this is a generality, but so be it.

 

However, in reading all the old reviews I came across Jon 1265's review of Premier's Emillio about 4 months ago. That very negative review and Emillio's very negative response was the subject of a long thread on this MC. Given that experience w/ Emillio, I think Jon should get let this drop. Jon admitted that he was not attracted to the guy. There probably was nothing the escort could have done to

change Jon's opinion. I do give Jon some credit. At least this time he opened up the question to the MC before dashing off a review. I

believe that review of Emillio could have been worded differently, so as to get the point across without having Emillio fire back such a nasty response.

[Chuck50]

I would like to borrow from one of my favorite escorts (Stef) who uses this on this home page and think it is so true here:

 

 

"When Loved ones don't live up to your expectations, it's

your expectations, not your loved ones that let you down."

 

Hugs Chuck

[Guest JON1265]

>I agree w/ CT Dick about the need for more mixed reviews.

>Recently, I

>have been reading all the reviews, not just the latest. For

>escorts that were around in '99, their reviews are more

>interesting with good,

>bad and in between comments for even the best escorts. Since

>then people tend to review to write all glowing reviews or

>all negative reviews. I know this is a generality, but so be

>it.

 

 

I give people credit when they write negative reviews...I have written 3 negatives (I believe) out of a total of about 10 reviews I have posted...I got slammed on one (as you mention) but I stand by all of them...negatives can have be helpful and hurtful...helpful in the sense that you can find out about escort and his M/O and find if he is a match for you or misrepresents himself...hurtful in the fact that the escort gets the last word and he can "make up" stuff (if he desires), and you also have some people from the MC calling you a liar, etc if you challenege what the escort says. There are some people on here who live for that shit...

 

 

>

>However, in reading all the old reviews I came across Jon

>1265's review of Premier's Emillio about 4 months ago. That

>very negative review and Emillio's very negative response

>was the subject of a long thread on this MC. Given that

>experience w/ Emillio, I think Jon should get let this drop.

>Jon admitted that he was not attracted to the guy. There

>probably was nothing the escort could have done to

>change Jon's opinion.

 

I am not so sure I totally agree with that...shouldn't it be an escort's job to try to win me over? I certainly was not rude to him (he was pleasant to chat with)....but he never got an erection...and he was a lousy bottom...and even with not finding him that attractive - I managed to get hard...

 

I do give Jon some credit. At least

>this time he opened up the question to the MC before dashing

>off a review. I

>believe that review of Emillio could have been worded

>differently, so as to get the point across without having

>Emillio fire back such a nasty response.

 

I re-read my review of Emillio and stand by every word...I do NOT believe it should have been worded differently as everything that I wrote actually happened...I pointed out some physical traits that were apparent (skinny and bad teeth)...and his sexual skills were not at all what he said (he basically did nothing)...and I also feel somewhat vindicated as Emillio did not last very long...

 

 

Now...back to the subject at hand...thank you all for your input as I have decided I am not going to review the encounter (no one here influenced me) but because I feel it would not be totally fair as I was not that attracted to him from the get go...but if anyone from Philly wants the scoop on who he was...feel free to e-mail me.

[BewareofNick]

personally, I was thinking something in puke green would look good on you

[Guest]

>Anywhoo - it was a so-so time...he kissed OK - sucked pretty

>good - was not a good bottom IMHO - and NEVER got hard. I

>usually want my escorts to get hard AND to cum - I just did

>not care if he did. The whole thing was over in like 15-20

>mins.

>

>Is it fair to review him since I went into the situation not

>expecting much from it?

>

>Just curious on your thoughts...and if you ever had

>something like this happen to you. (BTW - I don't think he

>unfairly misrepresented himself - he just did NOTHING for

>me).

 

Well, if he advertised as a bottom and couldn't, that's useful information. On the other hand, if you simply chose to hire someone without seeing a good picture of him, and were therefore disappointed, you should couch the review as such. I don't think it would be unfair to write such a review, especially if you suspect that the escort's previous reviews were bogus. I once hired an escort based on his reviews on this site, even though he didn't show his face on the picture. The prior reviews described him as an adonis, and I simply opined that he didn't seem that hot to me. People can draw their own conclusions. I think all honest reviews are useful.

When do I not write reviews? When a generally well-reviewed escort gives me an "A-" performance. In other words, when a good escort does a nice job, but just doesn't totally make me feel like I'm in heaven (like some escorts have! :-) ). In such a case, I see little point in saying "Yeah, so-and-so did a really good job; it just wasn't fantastic." (especially if he has a number of good reviews).

So, if you think you have useful information, go ahead and write the review. But let people know where you're coming from, like you did when you started the string.

[Guest JON1265]

>personally, I was thinking something in puke green would

>look good on you

 

Well, you have a lot of work to do...first, you must investigate EVERY escort in the country (or are you going to save the world?) to see if he is practicing bareback in his private or personal life...then you are going to cross-reference those escorts with all the escort sites on the Internet...then you are going to re-read every review to determine which ones have barebacking tendencies...all the while of course keeping us updated here at ole' M4M MC and getting cheered on by regulation - him being Robin to your Batman (Holy AIDSphobic, Batman, The Joker IS HIV+)...then you have to get started on those little symbols that you want HooBoy to post on all their pics as their reviews come tumbling in...at which time you can start your "list" and work on your color coded system for all those escorts to start wearing their new "ribbons" so people like you can feel safe and superior...

 

 

Then, and only then, will I accept your puke-green patch...

[Guest regulation]

>Well, you have a lot of work to do...first, you must

>investigate EVERY escort in the country (or are you going to

>save the world?) to see if he is practicing bareback in his

>private or personal life...then you are going to

>cross-reference those escorts with all the escort sites on

>the Internet...then you are going to re-read every review to

>determine which ones have barebacking tendencies...all the

>while of course keeping us updated here at ole' M4M MC and

>getting cheered on by regulation - him being Robin to your

>Batman (Holy AIDSphobic, Batman, The Joker IS HIV+)...

 

 

You are behaving in exactly the way I predicted people would behave when BON volunteered to expose escorts who create other identities to conceal their bareback activities from some of their clients. You can't challenge the fact that positive escorts pose a danger to clients. You can't challenge the fact that clients may make a different decision about hiring an escort if they know about his bareback activities. You can't challenge the fact that escorts go to the trouble of creating these new identities because they want to hide what they are doing so they won't lose business. So instead you simply engage in childish namecalling. Is confronting one of the dangers of this little hobby of yours really so painful that it makes you want to lash out at others? I guess so.

 

Look, if you want to continue living in blissful ignorance of the risks of what you do, that's fine. If BON posts information about the escorts in question there is no way anyone can force you to read it. All you have to do is skip the threads he creates on the subject. You have every right to deny yourself this information. But demanding that NO ONE get the information is a different matter. Go ahead and live your life in any way you wish, and let the rest of us do the same.

[+ Axiom2001]

>Last night I hire from my local agency, and the guy I hire

>has been around for awhile and has many glowing reviews on

>this board. This was my first time with him. His pic is a

>bit fuzzy on their website - but like I said - all glowing

>reviews and he was available. So I went for it.

>

>I arrived and the minute I saw him I was not attracted to

>him. But I went through it anyway because I made the

>appointment and I was there (do you think it would have been

>in bad taste to say "I changed my mind?")

>

>Anywhoo - it was a so-so time...he kissed OK - sucked pretty

>good - was not a good bottom IMHO - and NEVER got hard. I

>usually want my escorts to get hard AND to cum - I just did

>not care if he did. The whole thing was over in like 15-20

>mins.

>

>Is it fair to review him since I went into the situation not

>expecting much from it?

>

>Just curious on your thoughts...and if you ever had

>something like this happen to you. (BTW - I don't think he

>unfairly misrepresented himself - he just did NOTHING for

>me).

 

 

<Is it fair to review him since I went into the situaton not expecting much from it?>

 

Since your expectations were not very high at the outset, why sit and review the man? You did not enjoy him; you precluded sex would be so, so, so why write a negative review about the experience which will NOT help the escort at all. If he were deliberate in promising what he did not produce--then write. In this situation it's on you, not the escort.

 

When I have not been satisfied--I generally say--"what the hell" and go about my business of finding escorts who will satisfy my sexual appetite. Those I write reviews and continue to see.

[Guest]

>Since your expectations were not very high at the outset,

>why sit and review the man? You did not enjoy him; you

>precluded sex would be so, so, so why write a negative

>review about the experience which will NOT help the escort

>at all.

 

But the point of reviews isn't necessarily to help the escort. The point of reviews is to help potential clients make informed decisions. If clients who had disappointing experiences with escorts didn't write reviews, this site would be rather pointless. Of course, if I have a great time with an escort, I'll certainly let others know, especially if he doesn't have a large number of reviews (or recent reviews) under his belt...