BRUNO GAUCHO is coming to the US

[Guest Brazil Nut]

Bruno Gaucho tells me that he is planning to be in the US in October, in Ft. Lauderdale, Chicago and New York. :9

Get ready guys, he is not to be missed! :9 :9 :9

email him at intenso-prazer@bol.com to find out more.

[trilingual]

Has he learned enough English to manage this? I thought he wasn't very fluent? I realize his admirers will undoubtedly find other things to do while they're together than discuss finer points of grammar. . .;-)

[robbguy]

Hi,

I have Bruno's website listed as:

 

http://www.intensoprazer.hpg.ig.com.br/dad.htm

 

Good Luck.

[Guest Ernani]

Sorry to disappoint you, but Bruno didn't get a Visa to US. It's has always been hard for a Brazilian escort to get it. After the 9/11 incident, it's almost impossible.

Are you sure it was not a miscomunication ?

Even so, good luck to him

[Guest Brazil Nut]

>email him at intenso-prazer@bol.com to find out more.

 

Sorry, guys, I forgot to add ".br" to the address.

 

It should be: intenso-prazer@bol.com.br

[Guest Brazil Nut]

He doesn't have one yet because he hasn't applied yet. He wasn't denied. It's harder for anyone now, but visas are still being issued.

 

He is planning to go in late September or the beginning of October, depending on the visa, and I'm sure it's not a miscommunication.

[+ Lucky]

I don't know about you guys, but I am on the edge of my seat waiting to see how this turns out!:-)

[Guest Ernani]

Bruno and I went to a bar this night to talk about our escort business. I gave him some advices about how to make lots of money up there as I did in May.

I will be there in September and hope I meet him.

By the way, I will be doing some movies again in L.A.:-)

[+ Lucky]

Someone might tell Ernani that this thread is not about him.;-)

[Guest Ernani]

Hey, be more democratic, Lucky. Beijos no teu cu

[trilingual]

Well, Brazil Nut and Ernani, put up a post as soon as Bruno gets word about his visa. If it comes through, I'm sure guys across America will be breaking out their Brazilian champagne! If it's denied, the gloom will be thick indeed, but a lot of airlines will be happy about the sudden upsurge in reservations to Rio. . .

[Guest Ernani]

Well, Tri, I keep saying it's really hard to get a Visa.

Sunday,I gave Bruno some advices about the consulate and how to try it, since the American Consul is one of my best friends in Rio.

I know him well (my birthday party was at his house), and he is VERY restrictive about giving visas.

I have tried to take Leo and Ronaldo to escort with me in US, but the Consul refused to help them. Even my American friend's boyfriend Marco, who belongs to a rich family couldn't get a visa.

It seems I'm fated to go to America alone ...

[trilingual]

Unfortunately, it's true. Since Sept. 11, American visitor's visas are a lot harder to get if you're a young, single male with no strong attachments to your home country. (It's not just Brazil where this is the case.) And even if the consul is your friend, I'm sure he's interested in keeping his job, so he's got to follow the instructions on issuing visas that are coming from Washington. Life was so much easier before Osama bin Laden became a household word!

 

Still, visas do get granted, and Bruno doesn't look like the terrorist type, so he may be one of the lucky ones! Let us know what happens on his application!

[Guest SeaGuy]

Tri's comments made me think of posting this, with some reservations, which I received from a friend about two months ago.

 

ATROCITIES IN AMERICAN AIRPORTS

If you, or someone from your family, have any plan to visit the US in a near future, I strongly suggest you to continue reading this text, where I describe the experiences I had in LA International Airport, late Feb 24, 2002.

My name is Ricardo Abude E. Da Silva, I'm an Electronic Engineer graduated in 1982 and today am managing our family's businesses in the farming sector. My email is ricabude@cpunet.com.br . Throughout my 42 years of age I've travelled several times to the US, both on business and tourism. Late Feb 23 I embarked in Rio heading to LA, in possession of my third Visa to the US, issued in November 1999, and valid until November 2009.

I was aware of the increased airport security for US trips, due to Sep 11 attacks, and in Rio International Airport one can already notice the routine change, but I could have never imagined what would happen next.

From now on I describe, step by step, the horrendous and unimaginable nightmare that I went through :

Saturday Feb 23 21:50 hrs I depart from Rio with Varig flight RG 8836, going to LA.

Sunday Feb 24 07:00 hrs I arrive in LA and proceed towards passport control. The officer looks at my Passport for about five minutes, and asks me to proceed towards an INS office known as 'Secondary One'. It is the first time something like that happens to me, but I imagine I´m going to be interviewed for additional information concerning my stay. 'Extra safety measures....' I thought.

Sunday Feb 24 07:30 hrs A Second officer asks me to collect all my luggage and accompany him inside Secondary One. "...the interview is going to be in there." I thought again. All of a sudden, I am brutally pushed inside a 2x2 yd cell, all my luggage, money, documents and personnal belongings are confiscated, and they take away my belt and shoe strings. As I protest against the unexpected treatment, the two officers respond with loud screams and threats of beating me and keeping me confined. I am violently pushed against the wall, they frisk me from head to toe, and all my personnal belongings are searched. Again I´m pushed against the wall, my picture is taken, I'm fingerprinted and am finally thrown into a filthy, stinky, unventilated hall, already crowded with people. I notice, by their looks, that they've gone through the same 'ritual', and even though I am still stunned by the long flight, the jet lag, and mainly by the violent, outraging disrespect of civil and human rights, I face the crude fact of life "there's no such thing as interviews - I'm a prisoner."

Sunday Feb 24 09:00 hrs The scene resembles a Greek tragedy, a 4x4 yd room, filthy chairs, a stinking black carpet, no ventilation, huge 50" TV turned on all the time volume blasting. Tired, hungry people, sick people, people throwing up....worried about a friend, who was waiting for me outside the airport I ask for a phone call.

- "Shut-up! No phone calls." - They answered.

Sunday Feb 24 10:00 hrs Arrested, hungry, thirsty, no communication, and without the slightest ideia of what was going to happen next, I noticed the continuos flow of tourists coming to our cell and I face the degrading scandal the very same treatment is given to women, teenagers, children even elderly people a truly barbarian act ! Revolted, I witness two INS officers arguing over the priviledge of frisking the prettiest ladies, without any concern of hiding their sickening lust from their respective fathers, husbands or brothers, doing their commentaries, invitations, and obscene declarations right on their faces.

- "I've just frisked a disgusting latino....now it's my turn to frisk this Italian fox !" stated an Officer to his coleague, refering to the wife of an Italian tourist. The blunt disrespect made my stomach churn in revolt....

Kicking, pushing, screaming, threathening, heavily armed bullies displayed their brutallity, prejudice, and arrogance upon the constant flow of tourists coming into our cell, getting more and more crowded by the minute, holding an unbearable stench....

Sunday Feb 24 14:00 hrs After seven hours of ordeal, I'm finally taken to an almost surrealistic "interview" with Officer Sanchez, and Officer Lee, both subordinate to Officer Green, from INS. He "explains" to me that since all my papers and my Visa were in perfect order, he would "kindly" give me two options :

- The first was to sign a document in which I "requested" the withdrawal of my Visa, returning to Brazil in the first available flight.

- If I refused to sign the hoax I'd be arrested for an undetermined period and he'd start a compulsory deportation process, sending me back to my Country thus.

A important detail on the "deal" - so long as I refused to sign the document I'd not receive any food, or water. What would you choose? Oh well, me, too.

Sunday Feb 24 16:00 hrs I am taken, with another five "prisoners" to a different cell. We are all handcuffed, and escorted by armed officers, we are made to stroll through the airport lounge. The terrified tourists make way, frightened by the grotesque scene. They take us all to a van, parked outside the terminal, and transfer us to the other cell. The humiliation is suffocating ....

- Sunday Feb 24 17:00 hrs Apparently, they have forgotten to make me sign a few forms at the Secondary One, so I'm taken again for a couple of strolls ( going there and coming back ) in the Airport Lounge. Those strolls remember are with cuffs and 'escorts.'

Sunday Feb 24 18:00 hrs Due to my unceasing protests, they finally allow me to make a phone call. I contact a Lawyer in LA, in the hope he´d get me out of that hell, but the information I get from him is even more surprising, and disheartening:

- "Ricardo, the INS grounds at the Airport are not legally considered American soil, so I cannot invoke any civil right to take you out of there..." he tells me. How about that ???

In other words, I realize I'm in a no-man's land, a lawless place, arrested by arbitrary Nazis in the guise of INS Officers, that, due to this legal technicality, have the power to do whatever they please with you and what is worse with your family. I start to dream of the moment of catching a plane back home to Brazil.....however, before that, I'd still have to go through the worst night of my life.....

Night of Sunday to Monday Feb 25 I start to dread the moment in which tiredness is going to win the battle and make me lie down on those filthy chairs. It´s very cold, but even so, the prospect of using the slimy blankets is not at all attractive. Five officers are in the night shift, and feeling bored, they pass time kicking "disgusting Chinese", cursing "stupid niggers", threatening "filthy latinos". Our uneducated officers are unable to articulate three consecutive words without using the "F.." word, and we spend the night immersed in this sea of racial prejudice, brutallity, violence, arrogance and cowardice.

A curious note : our cell had two immense posters hanging on the walls. Look at that one was a huge map of Brazil, and the other was a picture of Ouro Preto, an historical city in Central Brazil. Both seemed to convey a silent, but eloquent invitation .....

Monday Feb 25 13:00 hrs After the worse 30 hours of my life, two armed officers escort me to my plane ( Varig flight RG 8837 ) and deliver my passport to the stewardess. They set guard by the plane door until take off. Just a last minute humiliation I guess....

Tuesday Feb 26 07:30 hrs I arrive tired, but immensely happy in Cumbica International Airport, in SP. I call my girlfriend Sarah in Belo Horizonte. After her recovery from the initial shock and the necessary explanations I invite her to celebrate our unexpected meeting with a trip to Ouro Preto, of course!

I relate this unfortunate episode hoping to bring these facts to light, to a wider number of people. Maybe those who, like me, were planning an innocent trip to this country might think twice before permitting their wifes, parents and children to be subjected to this infamous tribe of uncivilized barbarians. Daily, in every American Airport, hundreds of people from the four corners of the world are falling into the claws of these arrogant, racist, brutes, barbarian Nazis, and I think every single citizen of the globe shall contribute in whichever way they can to end this grotesc stain from the face of the free world.

The terrorists put down WTC twin towers, but they will achieve a far greater victory if they succeed in bending down the spirit, the values and ideals that guided America since it's very birth as an independent Nation.

Having visited the US so many times, and knowing with reasonable depth the history of this Country, I must say that the attitudes and methods of the INS Officers do not reflect the way of being and thinking of the majority of the American People, and surely do not reflect the values and ideals I referred to above. However, the overwhelming majority of the thousands of tourists that are going daily through this sad experience in American Airports do not have this perspective, and they are going back to their countries carrying in their hearts the seeds of hatred, violence and intolerance that end up germinating in tragedies such as Sep 11.

To Mr G. Bush one suggestion: in the attempt to erradicate the World of terrorism and it's "Evil Axis", start at home in the American Immigration and Naturalization Service INS.

A very important note: this narrative would not be complete without doing justice to Victor, one of the INS officers. He came into our cell Monday morning. Right when I lay my eyes on him I noticed a different glow, quickly explained by his attitudes he'd take care of one of us, feed and give water to another, he was always ready to help, at least send a smile, say a friendly word.... He moved like a star, shedding light into the darkness. I had the priviledge to talk with him for a few minutes, when I had the chance to convey my admiration, respect and gratitude for what he was doing for all those people, brutally subjected to such a painful experience. Son of Mexican Immigrants, educated in India, and possessing a spirituality impossible to hide behind such shinning eyes, this man, who represents so well the best of the East and the West told me simply "Ricardo, I don't do much, all I can do is try to transmit to these people a little compassion, a little love...."

May God always guard you and bless you Victor, as you guard and bless so many.... A last suggestion to the US President: consider promoting Victor to the post of Foreign Relations Minister, what he deserves more than anyone. I'm certain that, in a very short time, he'd reverse the already beaten up image of the US with the rest of the world. His attitude reflect perfectly the spirit and the values that have created America, and proves that one cannot possilbly combat terrorism by becoming himself a terrorist one should employ that ancient technique: turning the other cheek.

Finally, I want to say that I have already done the following :

* Filed a formal complain at the American Embassy in Brasilia.

* Filed a formal complain at the Brazilian Foreign Affairs Ministry

* Send a copy of this text in Portuguese and in English to the Internet, newspapers, magazines, websites, and Human Rights International Institutions.

* I hereby authorize any individual or corporation to divulge or reproduce this text partially or in its entirety, making it a public domain, as I believe this case is.

May God bless us all.

Ricardo Abude E. da Silva

[trilingual]

This shows the ugly side of U.S. immigration law. Most people (and Americans in particular) aren't aware that our immigration law treats all people trying to enter the U.S. essentially as suspects for illegal immigration, unless they can convince an immigration agent to the contrary. Unfortunately, having a valid visa isn't a guarantee of entry. The ultimate determination is made by the immigration agents at the point of entry, and recent changes in the law make their decisions virtually impossible to challenge, exposing visitors to the kind of experience just described. No appeal, no lawyer, no scrutiny, no nothing.

 

The only possible solution that I can think of would just be for all foreigners to boycott the U.S. until it changes its policies. After all, the U.S. earns billions of dollar from foreign visitors every year, and certain geographic areas are particularly dependent on them for their local economies. If people just stayed home in a massive campaign to make this egregious treatment stop, the political pressure would build rapidly to make the U.S. clean up its act. Believe me, when the airline flights are empty, there are no foreign shoppers in Miami or NY or San Francisco, hotel occupancy plummets across the country, Disney World is deserted, all of those powerful interests will be leaning hard on Congress and the administration to make it simple and pleasant for people to visit the U.S.

 

Of course, the U.S. has legitimate security interests to consider, especially after September 11, but its current policies and procedures don't protect it. They're just arbitrary and mean, and generate lots of anger and enmity among people who experience this kind of mistreatment. We can do better than this and still protect our security interests.

[+ Lucky]

1)I don't believe the story.

2) If Ernani had his birthday party at the consul's house, he can easily verify the story from his friend.

[Guest Ernani]

discrimination in the customs

 

I had my birthday party at the Consul's house and he has never mentioned anything about this incident.

Maybe because he was not aware of it, or maybe because it was an irrelevant fact to him.

 

I read this article some months ago in "Veja" magazine and I never commented this to anybody. I really can't tell you if this history was true or not. I hope it doesn't happen to me, with my arab look :o

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>1)I don't believe the story.

>2) If Ernani had his birthday party at the consul's house,

>he can easily verify the story from his friend.

 

I agree - I don't believe it either. I'm sure that if it were true, Dateline, Primetime or 20/20 would have jumped on it.

 

Thunderbuns

[+ Lucky]

Well at least we can agree on something.

[Guest cigarboyee]

As a lawyer on the west coast, and a board member of a state ACLU affiliate, I can tell you that it happens all the time. In fact, it's so common that no one is surprised anymore when these incidents do happen, least of all the news media. The fact is, the Supreme Court has made it plain that non-citizens have very few rights, if any, at border entry into the United States. The INS really is an agency populated by jack-booted thugs. And I have news for you... it's only going to get worse, thanks to the ABCs of government: Ashcroft, Bush, & Cheney. I have a black friend in Ottawa, 35 years old and a computer consultant, who will never attempt entry into the USA again, after he was strip-searched a few months ago. Don't believe?!? Wake up and smell the coffee..... x(

[+ Lucky]

I believe the INS is full of jackboots, but this story is not credible to me. And I have been a lawyer for 23 years. (Since I was 13.)

[trilingual]

It's credible. For one thing, INS screws up in its on-the-spot assessments all the time, but rather than admit it and apologize for the inconvenience they've caused a traveler, they pull the kind of thing mentioned in the article in order not to lose face and risk bad publicity. However, the reason that this doesn't make it onto 20/20 or those kind of shows is that it happens out of the view of lawyers, public advocates or anyone else. As Cigarboyee said, aliens at the US border have virtually zilch rights, so they can just be hustled off for secondary inspection and right out of the country without anyone ever hearing about it. Ernani's friend, the American consul, undoubtedly has heard about these stories after the fact, but there's really nothing he can do about them. The consular service, which issues visas, is part of the U.S. State Department. The INS, which actually makes the final decision on entry when someone with a visa shows up at the border or an airport, is part of the Justice Department (John Asscroft's outfit), which has a very brush-cut, jack-boot mentality. Justice is also the home of the FBI and other friendly law-enforcement types.

 

As long as US immigration policy is predicated on the idea that everyone who wants to come to the US intends to stay illegally unless s/he proves otherwise, we're going to have this kind of stuff going on. This is different from the way other Western countries operate, in which visitors as a whole are welcomed and where the focus is on screening out specific undesirables. The US does it ass-backwards (as usual) and just garners lots of enmity and hostility for its troubles.

 

As for the Brazilian who wrote the story of his experience: I notice that one of his names is Abude, which might be Arabic. Not that it excuses mistreatment, but it certainly is no secret that men of Arab background have been under heightened scrutiny since the September 11 attacks. Brazil has a large community of people of Middle Eastern descent (of whom the writer might be one) and he may have been an unfortunate victim of INS overzealousness. On the other hand, there are a lot of recent Middle Eastern immigrants living in the "Triple Frontier" area near Iguassu Falls where Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay meet, and the area has been under a lot of scrutiny because it is thought that terrorist groups have used it as a hide out, as a place to launder money, and as an occasional operational base for actions like the bombings of the Israeli Embassy and the AMIA building in Buenos Aires. In slight fairness to the INS agents, they only have a few minutes to make a judgement at an airport or border crossing when processing hundreds of people trying to enter the country, and sometimes they can be wrong. Their lot is not an easy one. They're also not well-paid or especially well-trained. Even so, the process of detaining and returning someone at the border or an airport does not justify, in any way, the kind of rude, degrading and dehumanizing treatment the writer of the article described which, unfortunately, I am sure is only too true.

 

(I'm a fed, and formerly worked for Customs, so I do know something about this guys. Please don't believe all the flag-waving propaganda. A lot of things are wrong and need fixing, but the un-elected gang currently in office aren't the ones who are going to do it.)

[Guest SeaGuy]

I know when I was first emailed this story I didn't believe it even though I received it from a friend and source I trust. After discussing it with friends who are lawyers and humanrights workers I also had to come to the sad conclusion that it probably is mostly if not completely true and with the new laws that are being passed and changes that are occuring things may get a great deal worse. I posted this story with much trepidation knowing it would be met with much disbelief and perhaps anger and I'm reading the most frightening things every day about the Patriot Act and the new laws that are being passed and am quite anxious about the future. I think we all have to become aware of what is going on in our midst. :-(

 

P.S. Gore Vidal gave an excellent interview quite recently in which he discussed this topic. If I find it I'll post it.

[+ Lucky]

RE: BRUNO GAUCHO is coming

 

There isn't much disagreement from me about the problems with the INS, or anything Gore Vidal might say, but the details given in the story simply don't ring true.

Nonetheless, if we take it as a parable, (hehehe, kinda like the bible), then, yes, it does demonstrate some of the behaviors our Immigration Service fucks needs to reform.

Since I can't prove the story is true or not, I will shut up and rely on what I just said.

Bruno Gaucho, on the other hand, looks great and he better not get fucked with by anybody on his way to delight American men.

[Guest SeaGuy]

RE: BRUNO GAUCHO is coming

 

I don't believe the INS is any better than the LA Police Department for instance, and we all know what they're like.