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[Epigonos]

seaboy4hire now your comment:

 

"But I am sure that if his picture is way off someone who hires him will make mention of it."

 

is exactly correct. The interesting thing is that invariably the negative comments made, around here, regarding BN are made by individuals who have NEVER met the guy while on the other hand the positive comments are made by those who have. I can readily understand someone not liking his blog, frankly I don't find it all that interesting thus I don't read it. It is also interesting to note that many of us who post here state that our real personalities are NOT necessarily the same as our posted personalities. Could that NOT also be the same in the case of BN or any other guy, for that matter, who posts a blog?

[Guest EuropTravl]

>>I can readily understand someone not liking his blog, frankly I don't find it all that interesting thus I don't read it.

 

I agree. OJ, Crazy Britney, Kathy Griffin. One doesn't visit for ¥breaking¥ celebrity news, does one?

 

>>It is also interesting to note that many of us who post here state that our real personalities are NOT necessarily the same as our posted personalities.

 

I've never seen it mentioned.

 

>>Could that NOT also be the same in the case of BN or any other guy, for that matter, who posts a blog?

 

Huh? Well, he did seem eager in an earlier edition to out some crab-happy escort ("award-winning"? I didn't know there was such a thing) but he just did another blind-item bit, so I guess there is a bit of redemption, one could stretch. (IMHO, any escort - or client - shouldn't be ashamed to take a prophylactic "RID" shower now and then - the little buggers don't discriminate because you're rich white or famous - and you can pick it up at any grocery store, and, if getting looks, say it's for your kid

) It really shouldn't be more embarassing than insisting on a condom, and Ben's source would've saved himself some scratching I'd bet. (Damn right there's a little unmarked bottle in my travel bag)

[Guest pj4florida]

While I seldom get involved in such drama and waste of energy especially such negative energy as you seem to have too much of. All I can say is that do you have nothing more important going on that you waste your time with such nonsense. I know this is a chat forum but lets get real while I don't always agree with SA on everything I agree on hs comments back to you. I obviously know and enjoy my company and time with BN and certainly know SA and if you don''t like his new looks thats your problem not ours that you are jealous you can't maintain such great looks by taking care of yourself as BN certainly has. I personally think his old looks as well as new style and looks is cool and can't wait for my next trip with him which is coming up soon. I certainly have been with enough escorts that are hot and NOT and BN is definately HOT.

 

By the way SA hope you have a great trip to DC nice talking to you.

[seaboy4hire]

>While I seldom get involved in such drama and waste of energy

>especially such negative energy as you seem to have too much

>of. All I can say is that do you have nothing more important

>going on that you waste your time with such nonsense. I know

>this is a chat forum but lets get real while I don't always

>agree with SA on everything I agree on hs comments back to

>you. I obviously know and enjoy my company and time with BN

>and certainly know SA and if you don''t like his new looks

>thats your problem not ours that you are jealous you can't

>maintain such great looks by taking care of yourself as BN

>certainly has. I personally think his old looks as well as new

>style and looks is cool and can't wait for my next trip with

>him which is coming up soon. I certainly have been with

>enough escorts that are hot and NOT and BN is definately HOT.

>

>By the way SA hope you have a great trip to DC nice talking to

>you.

>

>

 

I've met Lucky in person and even though he isn't 30 years old he is quite handsome.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[+ Lucky]

pj, what is it that you disagree with Scott about? We could become real friends here. My little post is a parody of Ben's take on Marcia Clark's new looks in his latest blog. It's humor...you don't have to laugh, but it isn't malicious. He goosed her new look a bit and I goosed him a bit. I'll bet Marcia and Ben both like to see a little humor in their lives once in a while. If you are friends with Scott, you know what I mean.

 

Greg...why didn't you say so before? :)

[GloriousGodfrey]

It's fascinating how every time that the subject of BN is brought up, the same conversation seems to ensue. The same detractors come and pounce. The same defenders come and protect. Even though Doug has successfully exposed BN's dishonesty several times in the past, it never seems to move his defenders away from him.

[Epigonos]

GloriousGodfrey you make a most interesting point. By your definition I would most definitely be a, long time, member of the BN defense team. The problem that arises here is that, to my way of thinking, we are talking about two entirely unrelated issues. I am not remotely interested in BN’s blog, therefore, the plagiarism issue is for me completely irrelevant. Now you might not agree with that position believing that his “dishonesty” on his blog would indicate that he would be dishonest in, all or most of, his other dealings. I, however, have through experience, found that not to be the case.

The only issue I am interested in is how I am treated by the escort, I engage, while we are together. On the ONE occasion that BN and I spent an evening together I could not have asked for a more outstanding experience both during dinner and during our romp in bed. In an escort I seek an outstanding meal and bed companion NOT a literary personality. For better or worse I TOTALLY separate these two issues. In BN I found both of these two qualities in abundance.

 

I can only speak for myself but I would guess that many of his other defenders feel as I do. What I do have difficulty with is the attitude, which some posters here seem to promote, that somehow those of use who aren’t interested in the plagiarism issue are either stupid and or immoral.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Immoral?

 

Epigonos, I am not aware of anyone saying that you are stupid or immoral. If you choose to ignore the plagiarism issue, that is your right. You offer a lot of intelligent posts here and I appreciate them.

 

There is however, and this is not a reference to you, a tendency to forgive any escort any indiscretion if he has satisfied in some manner your sexual needs...or even if that you hope some day he will. In other words, a young guy with a hot dick can be forgiven a lot. We see it over and over here. These are the same people that jump on anyone who complains about their favorite escort.

 

I think that if escorts post here, they are subject to the same scrutiny that other posters are and not given any extra slack because they are cute or they might someday suck my dick.

 

On the other hand, I accept that people make mistakes, including myself. If we learn from them, good for us. I don't hold grudges when someone has apologized and shown an effort to learn from their mistake. But they still can be teased and provoked, and that's all I have done with my little parody.

[Guest EuropTravl]

RE: Immoral?

 

" In an escort I seek an outstanding meal and bed companion NOT a literary personality. "

 

So who doesn't? But your BK wants to be this of the escort world:

http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/barrett_r.jpg

"What "nit-witted" "award-winning" escort is leaving little critters all over your bedsheets? One of my clients whispered to me....."

 

He brings it on himself. But I find these back and forth BK threads funny so I'm not complaining. And the only thing that would possibly interest me for a milli-second on his blog is him trashing another escort. I really couldn't care less which face cream he's using this week or what he thinks of J-Lo. And on and on and back and forth it goes, but HooBoy used to protect him like asbestos britches (oh, deej tries, but he just comes off as irritating to me) Things can only get more fun -and shiny and frozen- as he approaches 30.

[MiamiLooker]

RE: Immoral?

 

>There is however, and this is not a reference to you, a

>tendency to forgive any escort any indiscretion if he has

>satisfied in some manner your sexual needs...or even if that

>you hope some day he will. In other words, a young guy with a

>hot dick can be forgiven a lot. We see it over and over here.

>These are the same people that jump on anyone who complains

>about their favorite escort.

>

>I think that if escorts post here, they are subject to the

>same scrutiny that other posters are and not given any extra

>slack because they are cute or they might someday suck my

>dick.

>

I've always thought that Anthony Holloway wouldn't have been able to get away with stealing from clients without a "look the other way" attitude from others in the gay "community". BN's situation reminds me of Marion Jones' experience: lie, lie, lie....accuse the accusers...a tearful apology ONLY AFTER BEING BACKED INTO A CORNER. The one big difference, however, is that Marion Jones has found there are consequences for her actions. BN (the former editor of a university newspaper, a major in journalism, who posted the reminder on his blog that his journal writings and all of his websites are copywright protected.....I know, it's kind of laughable, isn't it?) should have closed down his blog once he was "outed".. Let's just lower the ethical bar instead.

[GloriousGodfrey]

>The only issue I am interested in is how I am treated by the

>escort, I engage, while we are together. On the ONE occasion

>that BN and I spent an evening together I could not have asked

>for a more outstanding experience both during dinner and

>during our romp in bed. In an escort I seek an outstanding

>meal and bed companion NOT a literary personality. For better

>or worse I TOTALLY separate these two issues. In BN I found

>both of these two qualities in abundance.

 

In many respects, I agree with you. If he takes care of you in bed, and you are satisfied with his services, I can see on some level how the rest would be irrelevant. However, my fascination is with how his defenders find nothing wrong with or objectionable about the lies he has told. Certainly, the plagiarism is a big issue, but what about his age? He still clings to 25 when he is much closer to 35. If those pictures are not photoshopped, and not from 2003, yes, he looks good..BUT..I have to wonder if he can lie so casually about so many things, when will that affect me as a client. It seems to be a part of his nature.

 

The subject of Anthony Holloway was also brought up. Unlike BN, Anthony was continually involved in ripping off his clients, yet even he had his defenders. Certainly BN is no AH, but the blind devotion is similar.

 

All I know is this conversation will forever continue the same way with nothing constructive accomplished and no minds changed. Therefore, I thank you for my opportunity to contribute to the irrelevancy.

[Epigonos]

GloriousGodfrey I MUST admit right up front that I am a terrible judge of age. For me it is frequently difficult to tell the exact age of someone between 25 and 35. When I met with BN about a year or so ago he looked absolutely fantastic. Great skin, great muscle tone and he didn't have a face that looked liked melted wax that many have after extensive plastic surgery. At the time I would have said he was nearer 25 than 35.

Now as far a lying about one age goes it is endemic in the escort world. If we were to eliminate all escorts from the standard sites who lie about their age 75% of the guy advertizing would probably dissapear. As a rule of thumb I almost always add about five years to the ages escorts claim. However, this isn't a real problem for me because I'm not into twinks. I covet mature, muscle studs and in that category age isn't all that terribly important.

[seaboy4hire]

> As a rule of thumb I

>almost always add about five years to the ages escorts claim.

>However, this isn't a real problem for me because I'm not into

>twinks. I covet mature, muscle studs and in that category age

>isn't all that terribly important.

 

Almost 5 years to an escorts stated age? That would put me at 36! Lets not rush things for some of us

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[+ ArVaGuy]

I am totally indifferent about BN when it comes right down to it. He is no better an escort IMHO than several top quality guys I have hired. However, this discussion of age brings me out to comment. On BN's web site, benjaminnicholas.com, he states that he is a "21 YO Surferboy".

 

The site says it was last updated on 12/5/03 but has a link to the Rentboy Award banner for best Escort Web site. That award was given last year so the site's been updated since 2003.

 

I expect escorts to shave a few years off their ages, we all do at times, but to shave at least nine or more years off is a little much.

[MiamiLooker]

> It is also interesting to note that many of us who post here

>state that our real personalities are NOT necessarily the same

>as our posted personalities. Could that NOT also be the same

>in the case of BN or any other guy, for that matter, who posts

>a blog?

>

>

 

I tend to believe that every post reveals something about that poster's true personality. It may not be how they present themselves in the real world, or even how they wish to see themselves, but it's certainly a part of who they are.

 

 

ML

[Guest pj4florida]

Its cool

 

I just hate drama and while I realize your comments were meant in a different way I just felt it was going too much into the avenue of darkness.

 

I personally know both BN and SA and while as we both know they aren't the best of friends I have no issues. I see BN all the time and have many times enjoyed the company of SA.

 

I think they both are awesome looking guys. As a matter of fact I think BN is one that pointed me toward SA originally

 

Paul

[Guest pj4florida]

It is kinda like do we see BN for his writing of his blog which most of us may or may not even read or care about? NO we see him as an escort, casual friend, good friend or whatever it may be. While I am sure all his attackers are perfect and have never made mistakes in their lives as like me. LOL lets be real we all have items in our past where we messed up. Do I forgive BN NO NEED as it had nothing to do with me and had no effect on me. Did I rely on anything that was exposed or caused by such NO AGAIN so why not defend a friend you care about.

 

I have and will continue seeing BN for what he is a good friend, companion and just an all around cool guy. Do I need to defend my friendship??? not likely to anyone on these forums as that is a personal choice. Attackers of BN is nothing more than people that either are envious of his success or those that he is just not their type or have never even spoke to or been with him.

 

I do now and have always been comfortable with BN and while I have seen many escorts and by my reviews that I have posted I have seen high profile, low profile and no profile guys and always have considered BN to be one of the best and the benchmark in which I compare other companions to. Even sometimes at expense of other companions as I consider him so highly.

 

Well I think I have bored this forum enough with my comments and sign off ado

[Guest pj4florida]

Again I have seen BN's ID and his age is not anywhere near 35 and I don't remember exact date but I do believe trying to think back that it is in fact just around 25 or 26 currently based on he was like 24 when I saw it last. I have seen BN for at least 2 years and multiple times and I could be wrong as I usually see him every 2-3 months I highly doubt he has had any or very little work as I have never seen any substantial change in anything about him other than his hair length which now makes him look younger. While again I couldn't care if he was 35 or 25 as he is an awesome guy and a great guy in the sack, in life and just a great companion.

 

I again don't see him or any companion for their blog and couldn't care about his or anyone elses for that matters blog. Do you see an companion for his personality, body and all around companionship or for his writing skills? Again lets get real!!! If you do you will have a boring sex life!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and be lonely and it would be a lot cheaper buying porn magazines for that quality hang time!!!!

[GloriousGodfrey]

>Again I have seen BN's ID and his age is not anywhere near 35

>and I don't remember exact date but I do believe trying to

>think back that it is in fact just around 25 or 26 currently

>based on he was like 24 when I saw it last. I have seen BN

>for at least 2 years and multiple times and I could be wrong

>as I usually see him every 2-3 months I highly doubt he has

>had any or very little work as I have never seen any

>substantial change in anything about him other than his hair

>length which now makes him look younger. While again I

>couldn't care if he was 35 or 25 as he is an awesome guy and a

>great guy in the sack, in life and just a great companion.

 

If you don't care, then why go to such great lengths to say you have seen "proof" of his age? The fact is that Benji's lies about his age have been thoroughly deconstructed by Doug and FFF. I certainly don't believe for a minute that you saw Benji's license, but if my some off chance that you did, I am sure it was Dave Berry's altered to look like Benji's. Benji hasn't seen 25 in a LONG time.

[seaboy4hire]

My question is did he voluntarily offer his id to you or did you take liberty and go through his wallet. I would hope that he voluntarily offered to show you his id. Other wise this would be an invasion of privacy.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[Guest PWIT]

>If you don't care, then why go to such great lengths to say

>you have seen "proof" of his age?

 

LOL, why do you care that he says he don't care?

 

>I certainly don't believe for a minute that you saw

>Benji's license, but if my some off chance that you did, I am

>sure it was Dave Berry's altered to look like Benji's. Benji

>hasn't seen 25 in a LONG time.

 

Let's see, you "don't believe" PJ's account but offer no facts to dispute. Think we have a pot/kettle scenario going on here.

 

Guys, this tit for tat game could go on and on and on...

Just a suggestion to everyone regarding this manner; either offer up some new information or let it go.

[Epigonos]

PWIT I'm with you on this one. Whenever the name Benjamin Nicholas comes up, around here, the same exact thing happens. Those who don't know him and haven't spent time with him rise up in moral indignation. Those who do know him and have spent time with rise rise up in rabid defense. Everybody who posts on this, endlessly repeated, thread has his position clearly stacked out and we all know where we all stand. So why the fuck can't we all accept the fact that, on the subject of BN, we are going to have to agree to disagree and MOVE ON.

[+ deej]

>I am sure it was Dave Berry's altered to look like Benji's. Benji

>hasn't seen 25 in a LONG time.

 

Nor has Dave Barry, but if you're going to use him as a flagship for your righteous indignation you might want to learn how he spells his name.

 

It's getting old. Dave Barry has moved on. Perhaps you should too.

[Lankypeters]

> Do you see an companion for his personality, body and all

>around companionship or for his writing skills? >

 

THE COCK IS MIGHTIER THAN THE PEN.

 

 

Lankypeters

[Guest pj4florida]

Well I certainly wouldn't have gone through his wallet as I have integrity and that would be unecessary and it was in Key West when we got ID'd at a club. And I didn't look specifically at it even then but I remember the comment made about his age that the doorman made.

 

Anyhow he is cute and if he was 35 I couldn't care as it wouldn't change my mind about being with him. I am not a TWINK lover anyhow I am into companionship with someone that can have a great conversation, keep me entertained and is also great in bed. Ben goes beyond that and tries to test the waters in getting me to experience things I wouldn't normally do must have an interest in. He certainly knows how to read the situation and responds accordingly and gain in my mind he is the GOLD STANDARD of which I compare other escorts to. I am sure other escorts I see are probably sick of hearing me comment about BN and what fun I have with him. Unlike others whle I see 8-9 guys I keep seeing the same ones over and over and only occasionally try someone new