So how bout them dodgers :)

[Guest mbarz]

> Daddy Sez: "Personal Attack removed, and a

>warning send"

 

LMFAO, so much for your free speech.

[+ deej]

I appear to be getting a lot of blame so let's run this down.

 

>Me

>trilingual

>EastBayGuy

>Erik

>chicagoboy

>taylor

 

None of these were my decision. In fact, when I was on the duty desk I had to be talked into pulling the plug when it was deemed necessary.

 

Tri divulged confidential information after being told the information was confidential. Twice. And was then let back in, and did it again.

 

EBG was never banned that I know of. I know he *claimed* he'd been banned, and at the time I went and looked and he hadn't been banned at all. Maybe you should ask him about it?

 

Taylor was banned by unanimous decision (and is currently enjoying another vacation for the same reasons, I'll bet). I presume the same applies to Erik although it's news to me he's locked out. But I'm not involved any more.

 

>And before you say my banishment by deej was just, due to my

>revealing personal information, I'll remind you that I

>revealed the personal information AFTER being banished by

>deej.

 

Bullshit. We were ignoring you until you posted my personal information. At that time, I got both Barry and Daddy on the phone and we discussed it and decided to shut you off. I'm the one that clicked the mouse, but only because Daddy was away from the computer. It was far from a one-person decision.

 

You're building an entire life around lies. May Karma return to you what you're owed.

[BewareofNick]

>Bullshit. We were ignoring you until you posted my personal

>information. At that time, I got both Barry and Daddy on the

>phone and we discussed it and decided to shut you off. I'm the

>one that clicked the mouse, but only because Daddy was away

>from the computer. It was far from a one-person decision.

>

>You're building an entire life around lies. May Karma return

>to you what you're owed.

 

Nothing like a little Fox "News" spin to try and put yourself in a good light.

 

You were out of control.

 

You banned people for no legitimate reason.

 

You were completely and solely responsible for the shutdown of the Message Center to your bizarre and out of control behavior.

 

I believe Karma has already returned to both of us what we're owed.

[+ deej]

Again, bullshit.

 

But you can't let the truth stand. It makes you look bad. So instead, you'll keep repeating a lie enough times that people may start to believe it.

[woodlawn]

RE: I'll have a double

 

>I don't know anything about the truth of accusations mentioned

>here, but he's a nice kid. People must have better things to

>do than to tear him down all the time, no matter how righteous

>they think their case is. If he did what you say, it was

>bad, let that be enough. I mean, what will satisfy those

>who are so intent on ripping him a new one?

>

>Next we'll have to post a copy of the Ten Commandments here.

>Talk about making a federal case out of something......

 

 

I'm always baffled by people who object to the posting of information about escorts who have deceived or endangered clients, in light of the fact that circulating such information among clients is supposedly one of the purposes for which this site was created. As long as he keeps his looks Scott isn't going to starve, since there will always be older gay men who are so needy that they'll take any risk and overlook any warning to indulge their fantasy that a goodlooking young guy finds them desirable.

[Doug69]

>But you can't let the truth stand. It makes you look bad. So

>instead, you'll keep repeating a lie enough times that people

>may start to believe it.

 

Sorry, Deej, but you're simply mistaken. I rembember that night well - it was one of the most fun times ever on this Board.

 

One member after the next was booted out of here over the course of 2 days - one knew exactly who was booted because, as you know, booting someone here is accomplished by doing whatever it is that Daddy does which has the effect of placing their name as NEWEST MEMBER. One saw the names of the people getting booted in that line, one after the next. On the day in question, it was Taylor, Erik, BoN.

 

As it happens, when BoN's name was re-set, he was signed into the forum, as was I, as were you. When I saw "NEWEST MEMBER: BewareofNick," I wrote a post laughing about how BoN had now been booted out of here (he was booted out right after Erik was, at the time when they were engaged in an ongoing war that infected almost every thread, which I assumed was the reason for the booting).

 

BoN then wrote a post to you asking (paraphrase): "Deej, am I booted or not?" You replied (paraphrase): "Sign out and try to sign back in and see what happens. You will have your answer." Based on that characteristically bitchy, power-hungry comment, and the fact that BoN was in the NEWEST MEMBER line (right after all the other people who had been booted that day), it was beyond clear that BoN had his name deleted or re-set so that he could not re-enter.

 

It was ONLY at that point - when he was clearly booted and when you refused even to answer him about why or whether he was booted -that he posted the link to that website of yours.

 

So you are lying if, as is the case, you are trying to claim he got booted because of that posting. Here's a review of a basic logical principle: if B precedes A, A cannot be the cause of B.

 

HERE:

 

B = (the banning/re-setting of BoN's name)

A = BoN's posting of the link to your website.

 

So please stop lying that BoN was deleted because he posted that link. He posted that link only IN RESPONSE TO his being booted out of here.

 

I would link to the thread but you and/or your compadres deleted it.

[jackhammer91406]

RE: I'll have a double

 

Hey Woodlawn, buddy,

I always appreciate it when people try to take what I have written and turn it into something else to fit their point of view.

 

My comments were not about the sharing of information. You are correct that one of the purposes of this site is to share information. If you can parse, then you should be able to realize (and admit) that I was talking about the almost obsessive nature of this whole dialogue. Why can't the point be made once and let the reader decide? NO, we are bombarded in thread after thread after thread about this issue, almost as though there was a personal vendetta against this kid. I doubt there are many buyers reading these threads who DON'T GET IT. IT appears he lied or is lying. OK already, we get it.

 

Time for people to beat up someone else, or else it would appear there is more to the attacker's obsessive stories and actions than we're being told. Hmmmm?

Or is it that some only get enjoyment here when they are doing more than sharing information...they get only off when on ripping on others. Is that the case?

[+ deej]

I thought the New York bar had higher standards of ethics, Doug, but I guess repeating a lie often enough to make it fact is acceptable practice. Sad.

 

That does seem to be what lawyers do, though. It explains how MJ got off. (pun NOT intended)

 

A lie is still a lie.

[BewareofNick]

Thank you, Doug, for your eloquent recap of "The Great Meltdown".

 

deej stated above: "We were ignoring you until you posted my personal information". As you can see from Doug's recap, this statement by deej is a bald faced lie. deej was out of control banning people left and right. It was only AFTER deej banned me (and I showed up as OUR NEWEST MEMBER), that I posted deej's personal information. I was rightfully suspended for that AFTER the return of the Message Center.

 

The only one spinning something here is deej.

 

The only one lying here is deej.

 

However, when one considers deej's apparent mental state that led him to cause "The Great Meltdown", he may actually believe what he has posted here, but I doubt it. Too bad it has no basis in reality.

[FourAces]

I just want to confirm one part of Doug's response. He is 100% correct about the NEW MEMBER "bug" in this forum's software. In fact, daddy had confirmed that for us by removing the NEW MEMBER welcome line after he too realized what was happening.

 

As to deej's account of what happened during the meltdown I can only say in my opinion he has a very selective memory. Again in my opinion, It was his virus spreading "fuck you" to everyone that ignited member's of this board. The answer to the meltdown is as simple as what started the great Chicago fire.

 

Anyone who saw it differently wasn't reading or doesn't want to acknowledge the truth.

 

RT

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

Awww thanks jack You always know the way to my heart is honesty, compassion, and of course blue drinks.

 

Side note: Funny that now I’m not the one being accused of propagating a lie. Just found it ironic given the basis of the thread

 

Has anyone taken a step back to see what was done here? I created a COMPLETELY non-confrontational subject; there was not a SINGLE thing in this thread, the subject nor the way it started designed to start wars etc. THIS BOARD IS BULLSHIT. Any topic is going to be hijacked so a select few of you with no lives, futures, or retirement after you spend all your money on twinkies can feel better about how unhappy you really are.

 

Get lives. Move on. Like jack said, you think I lied? That's perfectly ok. You're entitled to your opinion But if you're trying to get a jury to vote me guilty, The Jury is OUT.

 

JULY/2005

 

"I'd been following Scotts postings and travels on the Message Board on this site and found him an intriguing fellow..."

 

THAT’S my jury guys, not you. Whatever you say about me, whatever attacks you want to make? Apparently they’re not sticking and they’re sure as hell not hurting me. I could give a flying fuck what you want to say about me because in the long run it’s all served to help me. Some of these wonderful good hearted people know the answer to why I bicker with you guys on occasion and if I’m afraid it will make me look bad. It’s simple, here’s the secret: “People like you guys (they know who they are because they’re so enraged they’re about to write a one page response defaming me calling me a liar or harping on the fact I used a less common SPELLING of QED to make fun of me) are neither my client pool nor my social group.” Simply not up to my standard of who I want to be around.

 

So GENTLEMEN, if I may call you that, continue on. But know that harping on the same topics only serves to make you look bitter and pathetic. My client responses are CONSTANTLY referenced in my inquiry mails as the reason they’ve emailed me. I leave it to you to evaluate yourselves and actions as human beings and move on with your lives attempting to spare yourselves some dignity.

 

And of course, being the broadway fag that I am I must close with a quote from Madame Morrible of Wicked.

 

“Frankly, I don’t think you have what it takes. I hope that you will prove me wrong, I doubt that you will.”

[BewareofNick]

RE: I'll have a double

 

Scott, the only ones who believe your bullshit are you and the lonely old men who think you're really attracted to them. You have revealed your character to us, and only your sycophants see you any differently.

 

Did your parents know that you were renting your hole out to sweaty old men at the age of 16?

[Curmudgeon]

Chuckle!!!

 

Look at the mean girls circling the wagons, shrieking "Did so! Did so!" to protect the lie that's the entire foundation of their club. They must be almost ready to sacrifice a teddy bear on the altar of Shawn Cassidy. One can almost smell the teenage hysteria.

 

The ladies protest too much.

[joel304]

RE: I'll have a double

 

>Scott, the only ones who believe your bullshit are you and

the lonely old men who think you're really attracted to them.

 

Does that mean that I'm not hot? I'm not old. Well, maybe to Scott I am.

 

>Did your parents know that you were renting your hole out to

sweaty old men at the age of 16?

 

It's hard not to chuckle at this. I must admit. Why they gotta be sweaty yo? Why are you so fixed on this kid Neal? Are you lonely? Sweaty?

 

Neal ... Toronto? I'll buy the drinks. And I won't sweat ... lol.

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

>Scott, the only ones who believe your bullshit are you and

>the lonely old men who think you're really attracted to them.

 

That's why I've succeeded in this business. When I'm wrong I will admit it and the comment I made a while back (which I'm sure will be referenced as a result of this post) was completely wrong of me and unfounded. It couldn't have been further from my real opinions.

 

I enjoy what I do. Always have, always will. Because I've always said to myself that when I stop enjoying it I will stop doing it. I've never seen a client and not spoken to them afterward because I tend to be very selective with who I see.

 

My clientele have always been good hearted people who have been worth further communication and I'm lucky and honored to call them friends.

 

>You have revealed your character to us, and only your

>sycophants see you any differently.

 

What negative attributes about my character, besides that which you wish to presume, have I revealed to you. That I'm blunt and don't like to deal with bullshit? Perish the thought? If you're referring to honesty, everyone lies. Some lie over big things and there's no real justification in that. Harmless lies that don't affect anyone have always gone unchecked except by people with too little to do in their own life. Whatever you'd like to THINK is a lie, it's still not a big enough to deal to warrant your "negative energy."

>

>Did your parents know that you were renting your hole out to

>sweaty old men at the age of 16?

 

Gee. Let me think about this one. Does yours? My new favorite show has got to be Cathouse on HBO. It's hillarious. You have the Bunny Ranch bordello in Vegas. The opening credits has the black girl going, "Everybody sells themselves, we're just smart enough to make money doing it." Are you really going to JUDGE me for making money from selling sex? Gee. You're so innocent I'm sure. Whether buying or selling, everybody engages in some form of prostitution. Hell, even the Puritans had their share of wayward behavior (hence the book Wayward Puritans by Erikson, excellent read if you can pull yourself away from the computer long enough).

 

Get off your high horse babe, that saddle was reserved for Madonna.

 

Point is that on this board of all places you're judging exchange of money for sex and that's just laughable. Further more, I don't see sweaty old men. I don't see ugly old men.

 

I walk out of hotel rooms all the time especially if someone has misrepresented themselves but that's only happened once. I don't see anyone I don't want to because I don't have to. These people don't write bad reviews because I never schedule appointments with them.

 

Again. I work because I enjoy it. I'm not sure if you're going to call me a sicko or another colorful name as a result but again, as we've established....I DONT CARE

 

And wow. It took you all of five minutes to respond. Wow someone needs something to do.

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

>Does that mean that I'm not hot? I'm not old. Well, maybe to

>Scott I am.

 

Irony would be you'd be just about the average age of men I've dated

 

>Why they gotta be sweaty yo?

 

Are you channeling rappers now? Nelly perhaps

 

>Neal ... Toronto? I'll buy the drinks. And I won't sweat ...

 

Yes, I'm the Jew. Leave the sweating to me, it's what we do best You'd think after 40 years in the desert we'd be evolved to NOT shvitz 24/7

[Curmudgeon]

RE: I'll have a double

 

Scott, you can use this and save a lot of words:

 

http://www.bitchslaponline.com/giveashit.gif

[FourAces]

RE: So how bout them dodgers & SPECIAL MESSAGE TO SPECIAL ANIMAL

 

Even someone like yourself who changed his user name to fit in again cannot be serious. There was only one spark that touched off the meltdown and it was iginted by deej; regardless of what you might call my former board's posters they and I had nothing to do with it. The truth is right here, well in the posts that haven't been deleted.

 

BTW I don't really like the Dodgers.

 

Oh and Shaun Cassidy can you not at least have the dignity of using the ultimate teen idol of that time, Leif Garrett.

 

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10102000/10102262.jpg

 

And Now A Special Message

 

http://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/graphics/car-dogs.jpg

 

Jump Cho Cho Jump Cho Cho, lol. Looks like Cho Cho finally found an escort who would see him, lol.

 

RT

[Curmudgeon]

RE: So how bout them dodgers & SPECIAL MESSAGE TO SPECIAL ANIMAL

 

More shrieking, proving my point.

 

I see you corrected your typo.

[woodlawn]

RE: I'll have a double

 

> Why can't the point

>be made once and let the reader decide?

 

Because posts on a message board quickly disappear beneath newer posts, I suppose. Meaning that anyone who actually cares about warning clients realizes the warning must be repeated from time to time lest more recent visitors to the board miss it.

 

 

 

>Time for people to beat up someone else, or else it would

>appear there is more to the attacker's obsessive stories and

>actions than we're being told. Hmmmm?

 

Why do you assume there is some nefarious motive for these actions when there is another, and much simpler, explanation available?

[woodlawn]

RE: I'll have a double

 

>Scott, you can use this and save a lot of words:

>

 

If Scott didn't give a shit then it wouldn't make much sense for him to keep replying to these attacks with posts that are even longer than the posts attacking him. Right?

 

If you really care about him, you should probably try to explain to him that his responses are only prolonging this discussion and increasing the attention that is paid to the allegations against him.

[Curmudgeon]

RE: I'll have a double

 

http://www.bitchslaponline.com/lmfao.gif

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

 

Oh my god. That is so fabulous. I'd get carpal tunnel from every Ctrl+V to paste the code to people, but thank you for the thought.

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

Oh Woodlawn ::shaking head::

 

I'm disappointed. I have gone back and forth re-evaluating my opinion of you because you're the only person who ever put any thought or intelligence into any of your posts. I've even been led to believe by other posters that there's more to you than meets the screen, but to this and your other comment I am in fact disapointed though.

 

>If Scott didn't give a shit then it wouldn't make much sense

>for him to keep replying to these attacks with posts that are

>even longer than the posts attacking him. Right?

 

Who said I'm REPLYING Just pointing out how stupid the responses are. This can be construed as a reply but in fact, it's not. Now what I was doing in the fees thread was a reply since I was having an argument addressing points of a problem. This, the point I was making above, is frivolous banter.

>

>If you really care about him, you should probably try to

>explain to him that his responses are only prolonging this

>discussion and increasing the attention that is paid to the

>allegations against him.

 

Have I not told you that I could give a flying fuck what your allegations are? They are ONLY SERVING TO FORWARD MY HOBBY. LITERALLY I've done the math on a sample of 100 emails in the past two weeks. Out of nearly 800 inquiry emails in the past month I chose 100. Out of those 100 random first time emailers, 74 of them opened their email referencing...

 

"how well [i'm] handling myself with the trolls"

 

"how [they've] enjoyed reading [my] replies in the message center"

 

"that [they've] never seen such intelligence in someone in [my] age bracket"

 

...to name a few. The attention is wonderful. I would NEVER compare myself to that other person that threads have been started against but it's the same thing. As Samantha Jones says, "It's only bad PR if your name isn't in the headline."

 

As to your other post to not waste line space:

 

>Because posts on a message board quickly disappear beneath newer >posts, I suppose. Meaning that anyone who actually cares about >warning clients realizes the warning must be repeated from time to >time lest more recent visitors to the board miss it.

 

Wow. Do you really think that highly of yourself or that little of other people that they can't use the SEARCH function if they want to look up a particular escort? It's not up to you to be the "permanent" purveyor of this information. That's what reviews are for. Say it once, and move on. Saying it over and over makes you look like an eight year old on the playground who has nothing better to say than, "He spelled QED wrong ha ha ha ha." But I digress.

 

>Why do you assume there is some nefarious motive for these actions >when there is another, and much simpler, explanation available?

 

You have a small penis? Well that's the "simpler" explanation for driving hummers and cars worth more than $30G. What is this simpler explanation?

[SAdler]

RE: I'll have a double

 

sorry guys, had to put in plaint text because it kept "erasing" my bracketed words.