Escort Fees

[KY_TOP]

I believe the Escort you are referring to I have seen, his first review. I usually hire for 2 hours and he like many Escorts (not all) that charge a high hour fee, charge smaller hourly amounts for multi-hour sessions. He charged me $500 for 2 hours and 2 FULL hours I must add, little talking with this guy. Of course some would think $250 per hour is too high. It does seem that Porn Guys that start Escorting do charge on the higher end as Bobby noted. If the market will bear the fee, who can blame them for charging that. Look at Talvin DeMachio, one of the consistantly higher priced Escorts. He certainly doesn't seem to be short of clients and he isn't even versatile. He is also very good at marketing himself.

 

The guys that charge higher fees realize many will not pay that, and they don't care as long as they have enough clients. It isn't much different to me than an Escort only accepting overnight or weekend sessions. That will obviously lock out many from seeing them. But, as long as they can get enough clients willing to book them, they don't care. I say more power to them. Many here seem to forget it is a "Business" for these guys, they are seeing us because we pay them, not out of the goodness of their hearts. If Ford is not selling a car well they offer rebates. But, if it is selling well you'll pay sticker price, or close to it. The market rules.

 

I have had a few higher priced guys say they don't want to see someone everyday so the clients they get from the higher fee, makes up for seeing fewer clients. I have usually paid higher prices when visiting an area where I don't find too many Escorts that peak my fancy or one's I've tried to contact, I can't schedule with. DC is the perfect example of this for me.

 

I too have found some of the best Escorts to be lowered priced but definitely not always. My favorite Escort was in Nashville, now retired, and he was one of the lower priced guys and always gave more time than I had scheduled.

[noviceny]

There is a very popular straight guy at one of the other boards, who charges $500 an hour, but also has $250 for a half hour. No sex BTW...I think he is cleaning up though

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>The market rules.

>

 

I agree KY. I have no problem with escorts charging what the market will bear. I do chuckle though when I see a newbie or one of God's rare gifts set themselves up at 300 - 400 right out of the shute. Just something about the naive that is so cluelessly innocent. And if they find wind under their wings then good for them.

 

I place the rate situation entirely at the feet of clients. IMO they really drive the price. It is not that an escort is on the same level of need as food and water, a roof over one's head, or even regular health care. That is if one has at least one good hand. Some guys don't exercise self-control or they proactively decide to meet the asked-for rate. The resulting rates are what one gets. Not everyone will pay and not everyone will ask and many that do ask will settle happily for less. No mystery here.

[Lewis H]

There are definitely market prices in each city, and the escorts know it if they know the sites to browse. I hired an escort from out of state who was visiting NYC, and his price here was $250 in, $300 out, but in his hometown, he was an even $200 either way. Obviously he was basing his pricing on what other escorts charged in the city (and maybe his travel costs, who knows), and from the way he spoke, it seems that his 'Fresh Meat' status proved that the $250 pricepoint wasn't a hindrance to getting clients.

 

I just saw it as my not having to travel to his city to meet him. Frankly, he was too hot to resist. And he was incredible, by the way.

[Uncle Bill]

I like date-length sessions with guys who are capable of interacting with me that long (sex, dinner, conversation, maybe a movie/TV). They have to be wonderfully sexy, friendly, intelligent, conversational and willing to maintain all that for several hours. Sometimes, I find a guy who's willing to do that for $200 (I usually tip a guy like that pretty well though, LOL), but in most cases it's more like $450 and up. As a result of the cost, I don't hire all the time, but when I do, I pay the piper because that's the kind of experience I want. I actually like the guys who have the 2-3 hour minimums since they've geared their business towards what I like -- not just getting me off and getting me out, and I don't have a problem hiring a guy for the first time on that basis since I'd only do it if he had reliable references (ie, from clients I know).

 

As for a one-hour rate in those cases where I do that, I personally don't go above $250 -- and I think long and hard about even going over $200. I don't begrudge the boys getting whatever they can -- I'm just not hiring guys above that. On the flip side, when I happen across a much less expensive guy, I'll give him at least $150 even if he's asking for less (assuming that he delivered what was promised/expected), and I always make sure that each guy in a 3-way gets the same even if that means paying someone more than normal.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..Unfortunately "Chemistry" for a Hot- Fun time will never be a "Guarantee" NO Matter what the Rate! It would be interesting to see a "Rate Stated" for the "Exact Amount of Time" Spent Sexually? Then again, these rates are for "Companionship Only" Right? LOL Imagine how many Clients would really "get pissed" at $250-300 for 35 mins of "Real Sex"! LOL :+

[KY_TOP]

That sort of takes "Gay for Pay" to new limits, doesn't it?

[SAdler]

*UNPOPULAR OPINION ALERT*

(I like it and I'm stealing it to use as often as possible, Thanks Bobby )

 

Frankly I've been reading this thread and am getting SEVERE deja vu. Yes, even saying THAT is deja vu. This also stems from the problem I find with the board that scares off escorts and some others from potentially posting.

 

A bunch of old queens bitching about stuff and not caring about other people's feelings or opinions in the matter.

 

People charge what they charge. They have that right. If they get it, good for them! If they don't that's on them to lower their rates. But frankly, it's rude and insulting to expect to bargain or tell someone they aren't worth what they're charging.

 

The simple conclusion is if you don't like what someone's charging. Don't hire them! Don't bitch about it. Supply and demand is a very iffy idea but not all escorts are scrambling for money and the cocnept doesn't apply to all consumer affairs.

 

Some people are doing it as a hobby or for fun. Hell some of these guys are trustfund babies that have had silver spoons in their mouth and this is the closest they can get to being a bad boy. They can charge whatever the hell they want and it's not for you as A consumer (notice I say A not THE) to tell them they're charging too much.

 

::Steps down from soap box and awaits tomatoes::

[SAdler]

I knew I'd find you SOMEWHERE in this thread babe. I enjoy having a double agent around

[Rick Munroe]

>A bunch of old queens bitching about stuff

 

Why is it always the standard put-down to call someone "old"? None of us really knows the age of any of these anonymous posters, and speaking of deja vu, I get awfully tired of everyone calling everyone else "old" or "fat" or a "queen" all the time on here. All we can see are the person's words so we don't know anything about their age or appearance (unless they've shared) or their behavioral traits. It would be nice if we could address the issues without resorting to the common ageist smackdowns, etc.

 

And that was my unpopular opinion alert.

[KY_TOP]

>A bunch of old queens

 

Do you think of all your potential clients this way? How about your clients?

What do you consider old? 40, 50, 60?

[Uncle Bill]

When you're 20, 25 seems old, and 30 ancient. That makes me a fossil, but Scott manages to treat me quite well. ;-)

 

Scott is known to many for his sometimes youthfully inflamatory remarks -- both in email and in person. Call me a dolt, but I like it -- reminds me of his youth and passion. And what passion he has :9

 

I guess that I have to add that I'm know to many for my stupid inflamatory remarks uttered after having too much to drink or being in a hot guy's company too long. My appologies to those of you at the last LA HooVille dinner :o

[Guest Jesse Dane]

>>A bunch of old queens bitching about stuff

>

>Why is it always the standard put-down to call someone "old"?

>None of us really knows the age of any of these anonymous

>posters, and speaking of deja vu, I get awfully tired of

>everyone calling everyone else "old" or "fat" or a "queen" all

>the time on here. All we can see are the person's words so we

>don't know anything about their age or appearance (unless

>they've shared) or their behavioral traits. It would be nice

>if we could address the issues without resorting to the common

>ageist smackdowns, etc.

>

>And that was my unpopular opinion alert.

 

Well said!

 

And remember boys...arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Jesse, you just won the Quote of the Day Award with that line.

 

CLASSIC! You made me laugh my ass off

 

 

~BN

[Guest Jesse Dane]

It's one of my all time favorites! ;-)

 

I actually have a great picture of a kid running in the special olympics with that posted across it, but I don't know how to post pictures on here.

[yeahbmx]

>The cost of living for the city is a factor.

>If I am in NY I don't mind paying 250.While

>most of the escorts state a 200.00 fee where

>I live, more is abusrb. However, an exceptionally

>hot and professional escort in this city quotes

>160.00. So when I call these other guys, I tell

>them that and have set that as the rate I will

>pay. Except for a few exceptions, they agree

>on the 160.00. I also tip, usually 20, but I

>have certainly been more generous.

 

 

Do you have the details on this guy?

[yeahbmx]

>The cost of living for the city is a factor.

>If I am in NY I don't mind paying 250.While

>most of the escorts state a 200.00 fee where

>I live, more is abusrb. However, an exceptionally

>hot and professional escort in this city quotes

>160.00. So when I call these other guys, I tell

>them that and have set that as the rate I will

>pay. Except for a few exceptions, they agree

>on the 160.00. I also tip, usually 20, but I

>have certainly been more generous.

 

 

Do you have the details on this guy?

[Rick Munroe]

>arguing on the internet is like running in

>the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.

 

I love a good joke, especially one that isn't PC, but it's cruel, not funny, to make fun of the disabled.

 

From specialolympics.org:

 

"Special Olympics is an international organization dedicated to empowering individuals with intellectual disabilities to become physically fit, productive and respected members of society through sports training and competition. Children and adults with intellectual disabilities who participate in Special Olympics develop improved physical fitness and motor skills, greater self-confidence and a more positive self-image."

 

But in the end they're still just retarded, right? x(

[raife]

[blockquote][blockquote]I like date-length sessions with guys who are capable of interacting with me that long (sex, dinner, conversation, maybe a movie/TV). They have to be wonderfully sexy, friendly, intelligent, conversational and willing to maintain all that for several hours. Sometimes, I find a guy who's willing to do that for $200 (I usually tip a guy like that pretty well though, LOL), but in most cases it's more like $450 and up. As a result of the cost, I don't hire all the time, but when I do, I pay the piper because that's the kind of experience I want. I actually like the guys who have the 2-3 hour minimums since they've geared their business towards what I like -- not just getting me off and getting me out, and I don't have a problem hiring a guy for the first time on that basis since I'd only do it if he had reliable references (ie, from clients I know).[/blockquote][/blockquote] That's the main difference between part-timers and pros that Joe Itiel talks about in his book [a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1560231912/qid=1118795939/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-2449087-2108706]Sex Workers as Virtual Boyfriends[/a] and that's why both my regular guys (bi-weekly or so) are part-timers. They have their day jobs as their main source of income and just escort for mad-money. They really treat me like they enjoy my company, and the have all the attributes you describe so well. We do full dates (with movie/play/restaurant/...), come home have some leisurely sex (occasionally giving me a kick-ass [a href=http://babydb.male4malescorts.com/m4mdc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=25&topic_id=157&mesg_id=157&listing_type=search]fantasy fetish[/a] session) then watch TV & cuddle for a while, then end with massage/shower/... and for all this I make their car payments (~$500/mo), a few incidentals (like Netflix @ $20/mo) and buy them a few gifts every so often (DVD player last month ~$150).

 

I love seeing pros when I travel, but they don't usually like to "go off the clock", and why do the whole tight scheduling thing when I can have a "virtual boyfriend" for a reasonable monthly subscription, which would be the cost of one session with a "top tier" pro.

[Txpaytoplay]

Good Point

[SAdler]

This is PERFECTLY what I mean.

 

Personally. I'm an old soul. I'm not going to sound full of myself or anything but I tend be far more mature than my typical peer group. That might sound self righteous but I know what I know from experience and stand by that. Anyone to refute please do but as was said, "Until you know someone how can you describe them" or something to that degree.

 

Anyway, relevance, ah yes, damned tangents. Anyway, when I call someone an old queen I refer to the stereotyped IMAGERY invoked by it. I don't EVER mean to pre-judge someone or generalize. An "old queen" to me is someone who just sits around and bitches and moans and complains and doesn't do anything about it. Like for instance, anyone who wasn't at Stonewall and had the ability to do so. We all know people who sit around saying something should be done but never get off their asses to do it.

 

My commentary is meant to say if you have a problem with it, fine. But seriously, it's uncalled for to bitch about it if you're not going to do anything about it. People complain just to hear themselves speak and frankly, sometimes it gets pathetic.

 

I'm an old queen some times. Drama ####, whatever you want to call it. But frankly, I would never be ageist because may last two boyfriends (yes boyfriends not extended period clients) have been in their mid to late forties. Age is a number and state of mind. It means nothing so those who ACTUALLY KNOW ME would NEVER consider calling me ageist.

 

But I guess the point of your post was to yell at me for calling people old when I don't know them. Kinda hippocritical huh?

 

I'm an old soul, simple as that. That's how I live my life. No intents to offend here.

[SAdler]

KY, do me a favor and read my post above. Gets into more detail.

 

Read my reviews and you'll find I have no problems with any range. Anyone would rather sleep with someone they would sleep with for free. I'm not saying I give my twenty and thirty, hell my teenage clients, special treatment. I'm just saying is that studies show that yes, the average client is going to be above 35.

 

I just wrote two papers this quarter where a LOT of research was done so I feel I do have a bit of authority to discuss it

 

One was "From Selling Butt to Celibate: An Ex-Escort's Tale of Using his Bottom to Get to the Top" and the other "When sleeping where you eat and eating where you sleep is a must: Sexual Performance Anxiety in the Male Sex Workplace" LOADS of fun, really.

 

AND PS. Thank you to my favorite Knight in Shining Blackberry. What would I do without you to stick up for me on these boards?

[SAdler]

The irony of that is from my experiences, I get laughed at when I tell people my rates in NY.

 

Last time I was there they told me the going rate there was CAPPED at $250 for the best. Seemed to be true from my research.

 

Irony is I ended up always seeing my commuter clients going in and out of NY so it all worked fine for me. Funny though that as more boys start working "the going rate" even in big cities plummets.

[Rick Munroe]

Scott, to paraphrase a line from Sophia on Golden Girls, "You'd need boots to wade through that post!"

 

Nothing personal but I think that was a total copout. "I'm an old soul so I have the right to call people old queens and I'm not ageist"? That's kind of like someone saying "I'm not racist; I called that guy a nigga because I feel that in many ways, we are all slaves and I myself am a nigga." I know that was a big stretch but I think your post was, too.

 

>But I guess the point of your post was to yell at me for

>calling people old when I don't know them.

 

No, if you read my post, I was addressing it to all the posters here who continually refer to anyone who disagrees with them as a "fat old queen." It really wasn't about you and I'm sorry you took it that way.

[SAdler]

>Nothing personal but I think that was a total copout. "I'm an

>old soul so I have the right to call people old queens and I'm

>not ageist"? That's kind of like someone saying "I'm not

>racist; I called that guy a nigga because I feel that in many

>ways, we are all slaves and I myself am a nigga." I know that

>was a big stretch but I think your post was, too.

 

Honey, you're stretch requires something more flexible than I am for that to work. I was merely saying that I tend to hang out with an older crowd and thus relate on their level more. When you're black you're black. But to play devil's advocate there are exceptions to EVERY rule. Even that one. For instance, I don't think Eminem would get any flack for comments similar to those due to his rampant and blatant adoption of african american culture.

 

So get to steppin' j/k