Here's one for Ya!!!!!!!!!

[ted]

36 hours to 72 hours, usually, depending, sometimes a bit longer. (How's that for being specific)However, I believe some people can be asymptomatic, so if you have reason to suspect, have the test done to check it out.

[ted]

36 hours to 72 hours, usually, depending, sometimes a bit longer. (How's that for being specific)However, I believe some people can be asymptomatic, so if you have reason to suspect, have the test done to check it out.

[Guest Merlin]

HIV infection also usually results in a period of flu-like symptoms 2 to 3 weeks after infection. If it happens it is a good idea to conduct a specialist because the is a possibility that early treatment can kill the virus before it becomes established.

[Guest Merlin]

HIV infection also usually results in a period of flu-like symptoms 2 to 3 weeks after infection. If it happens it is a good idea to conduct a specialist because the is a possibility that early treatment can kill the virus before it becomes established.

[trilingual]

Condoms WILL protect against syphilis (if you're engaging in anal sex). That's one of the things they were originally invented for.

 

For syphilis, it's common for a painless sore (called a chancre) to appear at the sight of infection within a few days. That can be on the penis. However, this doesn't always happen, and if you are exposed orally you may never know. That's why it's a good idea to get a blood test (like at least every six months at your friendly local health clinic) if you're sexually active. The cure, if you have it, is usually a big shot of penicillin, which the health clinic will give you. In the case of syphilis, you'll have to give them the names of your sex partners for anonymous tracing and contact by the clinic.

 

For gonorrhea, you'll probably know within as little as 12 hours when you start feeling that "burn" when you pee. The test for this involves doing a culture of any discharge from your penis. You can also get gonorrhea orally (it may seem like a sore throat) and this will take a swab of your throat. The cure is usually oral antibiotics.

 

Condoms won't protect you from crabs or scabies, of course. Crabs will be visible when you check your pubic hair carefully, as will small, itchy red bite marks. An over-the-counter product like A-200, which is a kind of insecticide shampoo, will take care of the problem. Use it according to the directions as soon as you think you have them, but be sure to repeat it no less than five days later to kill any new ones that may have hatched from eggs laid by the original colony. Throw away or boil the underwear you were wearing when you caught crabs or while you had them. Wash your sheets in the hottest possible water (use bleach, too). Same for clothes you were wearing.

 

Scabies aren't visible to the naked eye, but the red itchy track marks they make will be. These may not always be in your crotch. They can be on other parts of your body, like your legs or arms. You will need a lotion including lindane as the active ingredient to get rid of them. Kwell is probably the best known. In the U.S. it's only available by prescription, but in most other countries it seems to be available without a prescription. Follow the directions. It will take a number of applications to get rid of them. Same advice on washing clothes/bedding.

 

Chlamydia and Hepatitis B are harder to avoid because you can get them from unprotected sex but also from rimming or even just kissing. You can get vaccinated for Hepatitis B. Hepatitis C is usually only transmitted through blood, but can be transmitted sexually. Condoms will most likely protect you. I'm not sure you can get it orally. You can get tested for chlamydia, too. It's usually asymptomatic in men, but can be problematic if you have a depressed immune system.

 

Hope this answers questions for those who don't seem to know much about these issues. Been there and done a bunch of these over the course of a number of trashy years, and I know how anxious I was the first time I experienced these things, but in almost all cases these are very manageable problems.

[trilingual]

Condoms WILL protect against syphilis (if you're engaging in anal sex). That's one of the things they were originally invented for.

 

For syphilis, it's common for a painless sore (called a chancre) to appear at the sight of infection within a few days. That can be on the penis. However, this doesn't always happen, and if you are exposed orally you may never know. That's why it's a good idea to get a blood test (like at least every six months at your friendly local health clinic) if you're sexually active. The cure, if you have it, is usually a big shot of penicillin, which the health clinic will give you. In the case of syphilis, you'll have to give them the names of your sex partners for anonymous tracing and contact by the clinic.

 

For gonorrhea, you'll probably know within as little as 12 hours when you start feeling that "burn" when you pee. The test for this involves doing a culture of any discharge from your penis. You can also get gonorrhea orally (it may seem like a sore throat) and this will take a swab of your throat. The cure is usually oral antibiotics.

 

Condoms won't protect you from crabs or scabies, of course. Crabs will be visible when you check your pubic hair carefully, as will small, itchy red bite marks. An over-the-counter product like A-200, which is a kind of insecticide shampoo, will take care of the problem. Use it according to the directions as soon as you think you have them, but be sure to repeat it no less than five days later to kill any new ones that may have hatched from eggs laid by the original colony. Throw away or boil the underwear you were wearing when you caught crabs or while you had them. Wash your sheets in the hottest possible water (use bleach, too). Same for clothes you were wearing.

 

Scabies aren't visible to the naked eye, but the red itchy track marks they make will be. These may not always be in your crotch. They can be on other parts of your body, like your legs or arms. You will need a lotion including lindane as the active ingredient to get rid of them. Kwell is probably the best known. In the U.S. it's only available by prescription, but in most other countries it seems to be available without a prescription. Follow the directions. It will take a number of applications to get rid of them. Same advice on washing clothes/bedding.

 

Chlamydia and Hepatitis B are harder to avoid because you can get them from unprotected sex but also from rimming or even just kissing. You can get vaccinated for Hepatitis B. Hepatitis C is usually only transmitted through blood, but can be transmitted sexually. Condoms will most likely protect you. I'm not sure you can get it orally. You can get tested for chlamydia, too. It's usually asymptomatic in men, but can be problematic if you have a depressed immune system.

 

Hope this answers questions for those who don't seem to know much about these issues. Been there and done a bunch of these over the course of a number of trashy years, and I know how anxious I was the first time I experienced these things, but in almost all cases these are very manageable problems.

[Guest BenDover]

REally great information. Clear, non-judgmental, helpful. Thanks a lot from one who was once contacted by the Health Department for a "personal and confidential matter." It initially freaked me out to get such a phone call and to never learn who it was that gave my name (yes, my trashy years of experience, too), but I was grateful in hindsight to both the Health Department and the anonymous contact, because I never had any symptoms at all. But I had been infected.

[Guest BenDover]

REally great information. Clear, non-judgmental, helpful. Thanks a lot from one who was once contacted by the Health Department for a "personal and confidential matter." It initially freaked me out to get such a phone call and to never learn who it was that gave my name (yes, my trashy years of experience, too), but I was grateful in hindsight to both the Health Department and the anonymous contact, because I never had any symptoms at all. But I had been infected.

[Rod Hagen]

Trilingual,

 

From Gay Health.com

 

On Hepatitis A: "No, you don’t have to eat shit: rimming an infected partner can give you the virus, as can kissing. You also risk infection when you take off that condom and forget to wash your fingers before they end up in your mouth."

 

>Condoms WILL protect against syphilis (if

>you're engaging in anal sex).

 

Again, from Gayhealth.com:

 

"Although a condom will generally prevent syphilis infection, it must be worn from the start of close physical contact.

If your partner has a chancre at the base of his shaft, scrotum or pubic hair, a condom will probably not protect you. "

 

In other words, you can get syphilis, say on your finger, simply from touching your partner's exposed privates.

 

> Condoms will most likely

>protect you. I'm not

>sure you can get it

>orally.

 

From Gayhealth.com:

 

on Hep C: "Hepatitis C has not been shown to pass through unprotected oral sex. "

 

As to wether or not individuals can spread Chlamydia and Gonorreah orally: YES YOU CAN!!! (like Trilingual said) Chlamydia and Gonorreah can be passed from giving or receiving a blow job. Even Kissing isn't safe AND, like I stated above, you can get Chlamydia in some interesting places, like in your eye, simply from close contact.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but don't think that just because you use a condom during anal sex you are completely safe. And if you use a condom for oral, and you are vacinated for Hepatitis A and B, good for you, BUT you still are no where near 100% safe.

 

Isn't sex romantic?

 

-Hagen

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

Trilingual,

 

From Gay Health.com

 

On Hepatitis A: "No, you don’t have to eat shit: rimming an infected partner can give you the virus, as can kissing. You also risk infection when you take off that condom and forget to wash your fingers before they end up in your mouth."

 

>Condoms WILL protect against syphilis (if

>you're engaging in anal sex).

 

Again, from Gayhealth.com:

 

"Although a condom will generally prevent syphilis infection, it must be worn from the start of close physical contact.

If your partner has a chancre at the base of his shaft, scrotum or pubic hair, a condom will probably not protect you. "

 

In other words, you can get syphilis, say on your finger, simply from touching your partner's exposed privates.

 

> Condoms will most likely

>protect you. I'm not

>sure you can get it

>orally.

 

From Gayhealth.com:

 

on Hep C: "Hepatitis C has not been shown to pass through unprotected oral sex. "

 

As to wether or not individuals can spread Chlamydia and Gonorreah orally: YES YOU CAN!!! (like Trilingual said) Chlamydia and Gonorreah can be passed from giving or receiving a blow job. Even Kissing isn't safe AND, like I stated above, you can get Chlamydia in some interesting places, like in your eye, simply from close contact.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but don't think that just because you use a condom during anal sex you are completely safe. And if you use a condom for oral, and you are vacinated for Hepatitis A and B, good for you, BUT you still are no where near 100% safe.

 

Isn't sex romantic?

 

-Hagen

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

>And where did he say that

>was what his friend had

>contracted?

 

It's obvious you can read, Lucky. So you know perfectly well that the author never did state what STD his friend acquired (my guess is scabies, but we don't actually know).

 

But when you write, rather sanctimoniously, "You might suggest to your friend that he use condoms" you more than implies that his friend could have avoided this problem, whatever this problem may be, simply by using condoms. Since you don't seem to be completely 'up' on safe sex, I pointed out for your benefit, as well as for that of all readers, that condoms are only the beginning of safe sex. Where did I lose you?

 

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

>And where did he say that

>was what his friend had

>contracted?

 

It's obvious you can read, Lucky. So you know perfectly well that the author never did state what STD his friend acquired (my guess is scabies, but we don't actually know).

 

But when you write, rather sanctimoniously, "You might suggest to your friend that he use condoms" you more than implies that his friend could have avoided this problem, whatever this problem may be, simply by using condoms. Since you don't seem to be completely 'up' on safe sex, I pointed out for your benefit, as well as for that of all readers, that condoms are only the beginning of safe sex. Where did I lose you?

 

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

>It's obvious you can read, Lucky.

> So you know perfectly

>well that the author never

>did state what STD his

>friend acquired (my guess is

>scabies, but we don't actually

>know).

 

I want to change my guess. It's HERPES isn't it?

 

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

>It's obvious you can read, Lucky.

> So you know perfectly

>well that the author never

>did state what STD his

>friend acquired (my guess is

>scabies, but we don't actually

>know).

 

I want to change my guess. It's HERPES isn't it?

 

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

Trilingual,

 

Wow, we didn't even cover Herpes: another std that can not be prevented, completely, with condoms.

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

Trilingual,

 

Wow, we didn't even cover Herpes: another std that can not be prevented, completely, with condoms.

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[trilingual]

Gosh, I forgot about Hepatitis A. That's the one you can get from careless food handling, too. I caught that as a child not long after my family moved to Mexico City back in the Jurassic. Hepatitis B is not as casually transmitted as Hepatitis A, although it's VERY easy to transmit if someone's in the infectious stage (like through breathing the aerosol from an infected person's cough). Ditto for Hepatitis A in the infectious stage.

 

I hate to sound cynical, but I sometimes find it hard to believe everything I read on gay health sites. Living in San Francisco, I've just been through too much hysteria and medical "advice" that really is thinly disguised puritanism and "sexophobia." I've never heard the thing about syphilis that was mentioned. A chancre on the penis is most likely to appear on the head, because the spirochete enters through the urethra. I'm virtually positive that you can't get it by touching a chancre! Unless, maybe, you have a cut on your finger. The chance of getting syphilis or most any other STD through anal sex if you use a condom may not be zero, but it's definitely low, low, low.

 

In sharing all this info, though, the idea isn't to scare anyone. It's just to remind folks that nothing in life is without risks. With some care and common sense these particular risks are avoidable and, if you do catch them, they're mostly easy to deal with.

 

By the way, the latest issue of San Francisco's B.A.R. reports on the front page that the chance of contracting HIV through oral sex is virtually zero, which I've suspected for years. (This from someone who's been sucking and swallowing throughout the epidemic and remains HIV-. Of course, on the infrequent occasion I've engaged in anal sex, you can bet my life a condom was involved!)

[trilingual]

Gosh, I forgot about Hepatitis A. That's the one you can get from careless food handling, too. I caught that as a child not long after my family moved to Mexico City back in the Jurassic. Hepatitis B is not as casually transmitted as Hepatitis A, although it's VERY easy to transmit if someone's in the infectious stage (like through breathing the aerosol from an infected person's cough). Ditto for Hepatitis A in the infectious stage.

 

I hate to sound cynical, but I sometimes find it hard to believe everything I read on gay health sites. Living in San Francisco, I've just been through too much hysteria and medical "advice" that really is thinly disguised puritanism and "sexophobia." I've never heard the thing about syphilis that was mentioned. A chancre on the penis is most likely to appear on the head, because the spirochete enters through the urethra. I'm virtually positive that you can't get it by touching a chancre! Unless, maybe, you have a cut on your finger. The chance of getting syphilis or most any other STD through anal sex if you use a condom may not be zero, but it's definitely low, low, low.

 

In sharing all this info, though, the idea isn't to scare anyone. It's just to remind folks that nothing in life is without risks. With some care and common sense these particular risks are avoidable and, if you do catch them, they're mostly easy to deal with.

 

By the way, the latest issue of San Francisco's B.A.R. reports on the front page that the chance of contracting HIV through oral sex is virtually zero, which I've suspected for years. (This from someone who's been sucking and swallowing throughout the epidemic and remains HIV-. Of course, on the infrequent occasion I've engaged in anal sex, you can bet my life a condom was involved!)

[Rod Hagen]

>I'm virtually positive that you

>can't get it by touching

>a chancre! Unless, maybe,

>you have a cut on

>your finger.

 

From university of michigan medical website: "During the early stages of syphilis, sores form on the body, usually near the genitals. If you touch a sore on an infected person, some of the bacteria will probably rub off onto your body. If the bacteria then get near any moist membrane of your body (such as the vagina, mouth, or rectum) or on any cuts or breaks in your skin, you may get syphilis"

 

That's a lot of ifs, and so condoms are your best bet against syphilis, though they are not a guarantee.

 

In addition to Herpes, I also forgot Genital Warts.

 

Here's how to stay healthiest when having sex outside a monogamous relationship:

 

1. Don't kiss;

2. Don't do oral without condoms;

3. Duh, don't do anal without condoms;

4. if one of you keeps underwear on at all times and both of you keep your hands off eachother's genitals, that would help to keep lice, herpes and genital warts at bay;

5. ANY extended physical contact can spread scabies, so the safest thing to do is just have dinner together and talk about sex.

 

AAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Rod Hagen]

>I'm virtually positive that you

>can't get it by touching

>a chancre! Unless, maybe,

>you have a cut on

>your finger.

 

From university of michigan medical website: "During the early stages of syphilis, sores form on the body, usually near the genitals. If you touch a sore on an infected person, some of the bacteria will probably rub off onto your body. If the bacteria then get near any moist membrane of your body (such as the vagina, mouth, or rectum) or on any cuts or breaks in your skin, you may get syphilis"

 

That's a lot of ifs, and so condoms are your best bet against syphilis, though they are not a guarantee.

 

In addition to Herpes, I also forgot Genital Warts.

 

Here's how to stay healthiest when having sex outside a monogamous relationship:

 

1. Don't kiss;

2. Don't do oral without condoms;

3. Duh, don't do anal without condoms;

4. if one of you keeps underwear on at all times and both of you keep your hands off eachother's genitals, that would help to keep lice, herpes and genital warts at bay;

5. ANY extended physical contact can spread scabies, so the safest thing to do is just have dinner together and talk about sex.

 

AAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[+ deej]

>> Isn't sex romantic?

 

ROFLMAO!

 

Copulation has become deadly, but really it always has been. The infamous gangster Al Capone wasn't executed for any of his mob-style murders. He died from Syphilis.

 

I actually like these discussions. You may be well-educated in these matters, as I think I am. But the trick you had Friday, I had Saturday, and four guys in a bathhouse had Thursday may not be.

 

Being informed isn't just well-advised, it's critical. Sadly, too few people are.

[+ deej]

>> Isn't sex romantic?

 

ROFLMAO!

 

Copulation has become deadly, but really it always has been. The infamous gangster Al Capone wasn't executed for any of his mob-style murders. He died from Syphilis.

 

I actually like these discussions. You may be well-educated in these matters, as I think I am. But the trick you had Friday, I had Saturday, and four guys in a bathhouse had Thursday may not be.

 

Being informed isn't just well-advised, it's critical. Sadly, too few people are.