Kristian - L.A.

[Rod Hagen]

>in the afternoon and left messages with my name, cell phone

>number, hotel information and telephone number, and times that

>I would be available over the next few days. Know how many

>who called back? Zero. Zip.

 

Richard, did I return your call? :-)

[Athan]

>It's about time you cleared things up for us, Athan!!!

>

>

 

 

 

Tis an old dial with many a stain;

In summer crowned with drifting orchard bloom,

Tricked in the autumn with the yellow rain,

And white in winter like a marble tomb.

And round about its gray, time-eaten brow

Lean letters speak - a worn and shattered row:

I am a Shade: A Shadowe too arte thou:

I marke the Time: saye, Gossip, dost thou soe?

----- Austin Dobson, The Sundial, 1900

 

It would serve no purpose if you knew what you think I might know (which I do not). To linger on things that do not bare fruit is to be stuck in a state of stagnation. When we hold on to pain (or the negative parts of life) we create suffering for ourselves. To stop the suffering one must allow the pain, merely a breif circumstance, to leave our experience...in other words, let it go.

[Rick Munroe]

>To linger on things that do not bare

>fruit

 

Nice play on words; they do say there's no fruit like a bare fruit. :9

 

>is to be stuck in a state of stagnation.

 

Good alliteration turns me on (really).

 

>When we hold on

>to pain (or the negative parts of life) we create suffering

>for ourselves.

 

Not necessarily, Grasshopper. Some types of pain create intense pleasure. }(

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Clearly you forego temptation for the narrow judgemental post.

 

The good thing about America is that there is always appetite for another conspiracy theory. :7

[+ Axiom2001]

RE: Getting into the Driver's Seat

 

I really liked your analogy, TampaYankee. :-) :-) :-)

 

About three weeks ago, I emailed Kristian, and as the rest of the men here, I haven't heard from him. So I have resigned myself to his apparent indifference and will see another man of equal girth and width and attractiveness as well as sexual expertise and prowess.

[Ryan]

Athan, kiddo. You just skyrocketed up in my estimation of you. Your playful wordsmithing, your heartfelt poetry, and your agile sensitivity to this topic speaks volumes about your integrity, your heart, and your mental health. So.... when, where and how do we hook up? Good work.

[Guest alanm]

Athan's response are really creative and interesting. They are great fun to read and laugh about. I can not even begin to compete. I now understand why Athan and Kristian balanced each other so well.

 

As for Richard's long, long defense of Kristian, I also have good luck keeping in contact with Kristian. But, you can not ignore all the people who have posted with different experiences. I have never had any problems with well known and popular escorts, like Rick Munroe and many others, not getting back to me. If anything, they have had problems hearing back from me. Artistic nature or not, K. need to return e-mails or phone calls to everyone, if it means hiring two personal assistants. And I am just as big a fan of Kristian as you are, Richard.

[Athan]

>Athan, kiddo. You just skyrocketed up in my estimation of

>you. Your playful wordsmithing, your heartfelt poetry, and

>your agile sensitivity to this topic speaks volumes about your

>integrity, your heart, and your mental health.

 

"Me fail english? that's unpossible!" -Ralph Wiggum, Simpsons

 

Thanks for the compliments! I am flattered.

I like the idea of Agile Sensitivity...it tickles me. like a Ninja carrying a basket of flowers. hehehe

 

>So.... when,

>where and how do we hook up? Good work.

 

I didn't think contacting me was all that much of a mystery. :+ but if you need help, this link should give you all the info you need.

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanla.html

[nice guy]

There was a Response from Kristian in today's newest reviews. I've quoted him below.

 

"I truly do my best... but I try to get the e-mails done, I return the voicemails, I set up the appointments, I go to the appointments, I have to stay in shape to look my best , I travel out of town to appointments (where I turn off the cell phone and don't do e-mails, unless my client gives me pernission, usually when he needs personal time) and I am working, producing music for two artists, trying to achieve a career in music, and I have a relationship."

 

All true, I'm sure -- but it's a bunch of excuses for unprofessionalism in arranging and following through on appointments. Obviously, Kristian has the sex part down pat, but he's got to realize that responsiveness and keeping commitments are essential to a successful business and on a personal level too. Companies that grow too fast run a high risk of imploding. I see that all too often in my consulting business. Kristian is running the same risk.

 

Regrettably, based on his excuse-laden response above, he seems to be in denial that there even is a problem. If he has too much on his plate, he needs to either get help or scale back. If a new mother chooses to return to the workplace and can't get her work done, comes in late, and falls asleep at her desk, you think the other workers give a shit that the reason is she's being run ragged by the kid at home? No. We make our bed and only we (and hopefully an escort) must sleep in it.

 

All of us have many things going on in our lives and we too could make a laundry list of them, but that doesn't give us the justification to miss a meeting, not return phone calls from friends or family, etc.

 

Maybe Kristian should write to each of us in this thread who have stories of being stiffed (by him, but not by him...if you get my drift), and offer to set up a time to meet us. That would show he's serious about being a professional and not a hustler.

 

I started this thread. It's not in my nature to trash people, and I don't believe I am doing that here. All the postings here have only addressed Kristian's responsiveness and are not personal attacks in any way. In fact, most people who've met him only have glowing remarks about him. I'm glad to hear that. Someone who does have his ear should direct him to this thread or give some helpful hints to him to improve his business.

[+ Lucky]

What you are doing is trying to tell him how to run his business. Your advice may be good, but ultimately how he chooses to run his busisness is, well, his own business!

[+ Axiom2001]

"...but it's a bunch of excuses for unprofessionalism..."

 

...my thoughts exactly, Nice Guy, as I plodded through most of Kristian's response that appears today.! I, too, try not to disparage escorts publicly, or anyone for that matter. ...just found it a little much to see Kristian's very long response defending his inability in functioning professionally and caringly as a much sought-after escort/person.

[nice guy]

We're trying to HELP him, rather than tell him, how to run his business. Because we're his potential clients. That is why customer service departments started years ago. The stores figured out that they could get free advice on how to improve their business from the actual customers who shop there. We are potential clients of Kristian and are advising him that, "Hey, we think you're hot. We want to see you. We want to pay you big bucks for your time. But you're making it hard for us to do that. Here's how we think the situation could be improved."

 

It goes without saying that every critique, advice, suggestion, etc. given to another person is just that -- we can't force the person to take our advice. Does that mean we should never get constructive criticism?

[Ryan]

Seems to me that Kristian has gotten plenty of feedback here. He's a hot commodity, there's only so much to go around, and he's got a personal life. If he wants to continue in the biz, he'll listen, make the changes he can, and continue to offer good product. If not, he's out, we're out and that's it. One thing is for sure for me -- after one or two calls and emails not returned, I'm off to the next guy down the list. Any more than that, and I'd start worrying about maybe being a tad obsessed and concerned about my self-esteem.

[Funseeker 22]

Agree with Ryan`s observation 100%.

Kristian will do just fine without the business plan being inflicted on him.

Maybe a little "ditzy" but still the hottest, most interactive escort I have ever been with. :9 :9 :9

[hillbilly]

I agree with posters Ryan and Richard. Los Angeles has many escorts equal to, or better than, Kristian, and I have not hesitated in the past to move on down the list if Kristian did not return my calls - I figure he must be busy doing other things, and it's his loss if he's not seeing me :-)

 

I have not taken a lack of response from Kristian as a personal affront. He's a creative guy, and not business-minded at all. Of course I wish, like everyone else, that he would be more attuned to the needs and desires of potential clients, but I have sometimes compared him in my mind to the stereotypical male "macho" driver who refuses to ask for road directions at the next service station...going round and round and here and there and wasting my time as well as his. I've told Kristian many times he needs a personal assistant to help with logistics and all, but he wants to keep on trying to do it alone, and look what happens.....

 

I have taken several trips with Kristian, and I think well of him. Getting hold of him, even for me, is difficult, and usually we have to play phone tag before finally getting to talk. If he's free, then great; if not, I move on.

[Boink]

I know he has a great bod, but in a way I'm surprised Kristain is as busy as he is. Outside of this site, I have never seen any reference to him ANYwhere else, and certainly never have I seen any ads posted by him in any of the usual places.

[Guest]

He's not the only goodlooking guy in town. Why put up with rudeness and unprofessionalism if you don't have to? I certainly won't. We're not living in East Germany, and he's not the Komissar.

[flguy]

I fully agree with Nice Guy, just a load of excuses for having poor social graces and poor business sense. If he makes excuses and can't take care of business in one part of his life, I would guess the others (his music, etc.)also suffer from the same affliction. No doubt he is a great escort, but his indifference runs deep to the point of what he really thinks of clients. Its all a load of excuses for poor and rude behavior.

[nice guy]

I FINALLY got a reply from Kristian, many months after my first email to him! He apologized profusely and said he now has a secretary. He asked when I wanted to meet. Hopefully, that will alleviate the problem many people have had getting ahold of him.

 

Wouldn't you know, I now have a boyfriend and am not in a position to hire him. Wait a minute...since my boyfriend is an escort, maybe I should still be able to hire guys! (If you're reading this posting, you know, we have not discussed this! Afterall, your clients are only business as you say - not love - and mine would be likewise! Okay, I know I'm going to get an earful, and hopefully a mouthful, later for this.)

 

Anyway, good choice Kristian to hire a secretary. Other escorts who don't return correspondence, take note from all the postings here to realize how much business you might be losing out on.