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Today's review of Sebastian 1/29/03


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I think my review posted today is being misinterpreted by the previous posters. He is VERY interactive, he just doesn't do certain things. Indeed, he's all about "making out" -- that is, wonderful kissing, lots of licking and stroking, light tit work, etc. He just says he is not going to do anal, and he won't suck cock (although a prior poster from a few years ago evidently found otherwise at that time).

I'm a bottom for whom a session without anal usually feels incomplete, but I didn't have that feeling with Sebastian because I had all the body contact I wanted -- but most importantly because he is just so nice and really gets "into" the physical contact.

Pulsator :-)

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I can't imagine why anyone would pay $200 for a hooker who refuses to have sex. "Making out" may have been a thrill in high school but most of us want rather more than that at this stage of our lives. I suspect your friend will eventually have to change his policy or take another job to make ends meet.

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I've only met the man once, for an hour, so I wouldn't exactly say "my friend." On the other hand, he's a nice guy and I had a good time with him.

I have shared with him my view that if he really wants to make a career in this business over the "long haul" as a "top," he needs to add anal sex to his repertoire.

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>I can't imagine why anyone would pay $200 for a hooker who

>refuses to have sex.

 

Really? Its not really too surprising to understand there is a market for the guy. Look at Chris/SF he charges $300 for even less apparently.

 

If there wasn't a market for really good looking guys who aren't into penetration and are limited activity in other ways, the Gaiety would go out of business.

 

Jeff

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I saw Sebastian a few times when he was at the Gaiety. If he lived in NY I would give up all other escorts. Everybody has a fantasy about their "dream guy" and he's mine. Inside that god-like body is a sweet, smart, funny guy I sure would like to know better. Hope he decides to come north more often.

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>>I can't imagine why anyone would pay $200 for a hooker who

>>refuses to have sex.

 

>Really? Its not really too surprising to understand there is a

>market for the guy. Look at Chris/SF he charges $300 for even

>less apparently.

 

 

Never heard of him. In a country of 300 million people there's a market for almost everything, even liverwurst. The question is, is the market big enough to allow one to sell enough of the product to make a living? In this case, my guess is the answer is no. Unless you have some polling data showing that there are a large number of men willing to pay substantial amounts for nothing more than foreplay when there are plenty of hookers who will do much more for the same money, I have no reason to think my opinion is inaccurate.

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This guy totally floats my boat! What a handsome face and awesome body.

 

I agree with the others, however, that I wouldn't pay $200 given his limits. I will say that I respect him for being upfront about his limits, though. I have encountered other guys who have many limits but don't communicate them honestly, even when asked.

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>Ouch! Ouch! ...ditto, man! It is truly unfortunate that he

>does not reciprocate and is not interactive. While I read his

>review-- I became quite disappointed. He is one beaut of a

>specimen!

 

 

 

I had wanted this to appear directly CTDick's, for I concurred immensely with what he wrote!:9

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>Unless you have some polling data

>showing that there are a large number of men willing to pay

>substantial amounts for nothing more than foreplay when there

>are plenty of hookers who will do much more for the same

>money, I have no reason to think my opinion is inaccurate.

 

I’ve always been curious about this. I don’t really get into anal and almost never do it with escorts. I’m sure I’m not the only one, but have no sense for how common or rare it is.

 

Mutual oral is the only thing lacking in his repertoire and that would hardly be a showstopper. My experience has been that it is harder to find a good kisser than it is to find someone willing to do anal. I’d hire him in a heartbeat.

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For me and I'm sure many people on this board, escorts are only one part of our sex life. I think it's possibly the smallest part of mine. For that reason I've never looked for an escort to fufill all my needs anymore than I would expect him to fall in love with me. It's like saying I don't like Mozart's Sonata in B flat because I can't dance to it. On the other hand...if you have you have a few drinks and a mirrored ball...

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For me and I'm sure many on this board, my sex life consists of having sex. I wouldn't pay an escort only for foreplay any more than I would pay for a CD of Mozart sonatas if it included only the first twenty seconds of each piece.

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I wouldn't pay an escort only for foreplay any more than I would pay for a CD of Mozart sonatas if it included only the first twenty seconds of each piece.

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I guess that means you wouldn't be interested in buying my Readers Digest collection of best loved melodies

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[...]The

>question is, is the market big enough to allow one to sell

>enough of the product to make a living? In this case, my

>guess is the answer is no.

 

I disagree. He's a pretty spectacular example of a physical type a lot of guys are attracted to. Not everyone hires escorts for anal sex; in fact, if you read the reviews, a large percentage of them don't mention it at all, and many specifically state the reviewer wasn't after that. A lot of them also indicate they are after a bit of romance, which seems to be what this guy is selling. Given that Sebastian seems to be honest and above-board about his limits and that he seems to deliver on the fantasy he promises, my guess is that he will do very nicely.

 

Michael

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I thought you might have read the Chris/SF thread "big married cock" since it was very recent and he has been recently reviewed. My apologies.

 

I would like to answer you with a question. How long has the Gaiety been in business? For the most part the guys there "specialize" in exactly the kind of thing Sebastian does.

 

But of course you probably already knew this.

 

Jeff

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Anybody care to challenge the idea that you can't have sex without penetration or mutual oral?

 

I personally can think of LOTS of ways to get off with a hot guy that meet this challenge. And you know he's pretty hot and Ft. Lauderdale is not that far so maybe I should give him a call.:p

 

Jeff

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>The question is, is the market big enough to allow one to sell

>enough of the product to make a living? In this case, my

>guess is the answer is no. Unless you have some polling data

>showing that there are a large number of men willing to pay

>substantial amounts for nothing more than foreplay when there

>are plenty of hookers who will do much more for the same

>money, I have no reason to think my opinion is inaccurate.

 

Since you're the one claiming to know what "most" clients are willing to spend substantial amounts for, shouldn't you be the one producing polling data? All you have to go on, really, is that you're projecting your own sexual interests onto others. I'm one of the "hookers who will do much more," and nevertheless most of what I get invited to do falls within Sebastian's limits, and no one has ever asked to pay me less for my time because they felt we were only doing "foreplay" (which is never disparaged by people who are good at it). It would scarcely put a dent in my business if I were to adapt Sebastian's limitations tomorrow, and I make a very comfortable living. I see no reason why he couldn't do at least as well.

 

What's more, for clients who like men of Sebastian's height and build, there probably actually are NOT "plenty of hookers" in his market who both match up to his looks and build AND who do "much more" for the same rate. This being the case, some clients are going to hire more according to who turns them on than according to a checklist of what had better happend for $200. Especially if they have enough imagination to conceive of a good time without fucking. Just because you have different requirements than they do doesn't mean that there aren't enough of those clients for escorts to "make ends meet."

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Sex is mainly in the brain, right? I'm mainly a bottom, and I've had some great times with other guys who were bottoms, too. The point is -- and Devon made it really well above -- that there are numerous guys out there looking to hire escorts, every one with his own particular turn-ons and repertory of sexual activities, and it's possible that Sebastian, since he's so hot and friendly and mainly accommodating, will do quite well without adding anal topping to his list of "likes." My advice to him was to try to add it. He probably needs to master performance anxiety. The guy so much wants his client to enjoy every moment that he is really afraid of doing something to screw it up, or of not being able to perform.

He told me at the end of our session that he is constantly asking himself whether he's doing the right thing (I don't mean in the sense of whether he's doing the right thing by escorting - I mean doing the thing at that moment that his client wants him to be doing...). It's great to find an escort with that kind of service attitude, but too much thinking "during" can get in the way of spontaneity. I think he'll get beyond that with experience... And I surely want to be part of that experience. He's coming back to NYC in mid-February, and I'm hoping to connect with him.

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I agree that many want only what he does. However, I think many who do only want what he does also will hold out for possibility of something else being available. Many of us always there to be a tantalizing possibility out there just out of reach, but still there. I think that is the point on which Sebastian may stub his toe. Other than that he seems just about perfect - personality, looks, etc. etc. etc. I think I got my tongue caught in my cheeks there.

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Guest Love Bubble Butt

I can have a GREAT time with a hottie without penetration. It's called frottage. A lot of guys think this is weird. I think it's fucking hot! Although I'm a top when it comes to anal sex, I can easily get off when a hot guy gets on top of me and grinds his cock against my cock while kissing me. I even sometimes think about this type of sex when jacking off.

 

Definitely count me as one who could have a good time with this guy! :9

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I can have a GREAT time with a hottie without penetration. It's called frottage. A lot of guys think this is weird. I think it's fucking hot! Although I'm a top when it comes to anal sex, I can easily get off when a hot guy gets on top of me and grinds his cock against my cock while kissing me. I even sometimes think about this type of sex when jacking off.

 

Definitely count me as one who could have a good time with this guy! :9

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Love Bubble Butt,

 

You are not alone. There are lots of guys out there who get off doing that. I get into that often too! Frottage actually is another kind of sex and not a fetish like some often mistake it to be. Just like anal sex and oral sex, frottage is also classified as sex when it is done to orgasm because there is an exchange of bodily fluids. While not as popular as anal and oral, it is unusual to be the only kind of sex one would choose to strictly engage in over the others. Also just like anal and oral sex, frottage can also be interchangable with foreplay meaning it can be done as a warmup for another sex act.

 

Sorry I went off on a tangent but I wanted to add what I know about Sebastian. As someone who has frequented the Gaiety for over twenty years until finally having a conflict of interest with the place two and a half years ago, I do remember Sebastian and the fact he's been dancing there for years so I don't think I'd consider him a newbie escort by any means. When I had gone with him, he did exactly as the reviewer described with me, and I was basically satisfied. The fact he was honest about it was all that mattered to me. Just like so many of the Gaiety dancers, he has set up boundaries and if you don't like it, that's not going to matter much. They won't change just for you. Plenty of other patrons will still hire him. You can bet on that.

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