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[+ Axiom2001]

Within a few months I plan to go to my second favorite and delightful city-- "the Big Apple"--Manhattan, NY or NY, NY. While there I will see some men who I have yearned to meet and get together for some months now. But I have a question about 'The Gaiety' after reading some negative comments by the writer/reviewer many months ago.

 

Is it a place where I would enjoy myself? Is the entrance fee exploitative, or is it reasonable? (I have been to the Nob Hill past and present and find the thirty dollars entrance fee to be far too much. Also, I have NOT particularly enjoyed the place. Perhaps I would have liked it more if I had gone when the venue featured a super-hot porn star or escort!) Anway--let me get back to the topic- at -hand.

 

Is the audience diverse? Are the dancers likewise? Again I read that dancers of color as well as those men in the audience were principally of one race or ethnicity.

 

Do very many of the dancers meet audience members after they conclude their dancing, and does this meeting take place in one's hotel room or residence?? What's the normal fee?

 

Please apprise me of the place before I venture out! Also, has anyone gone to the dance venues which are mentioned in BLACK INCHES or LATIN INCHES? I'd be more specific if I had a copy of both magazines up here in my study. They're downstairs in a bag being ready to be carted off and sold to THE MAGAZINE in San Francisco.

 

Thanks, fellows

[Guest JustANametoPlay]

It is hard to say whether someone would enjoy a place or not without knowing more about them BUT.....

 

If you have never been you should go merely for the experience of it. I have been to Nob Hill about 4 years ago and find the Gaeity similar in it's decor, but of course the dancers at the Gaeity do not come down from the stage for lap dances etc.

 

I have only seen one or two black dancers on the times I have gone. As for the audience I frankly never noticed.

 

The dancers will take you back to their room or yours, and the fee is generaly around 200. As I have said elsewhere it is important that you are specific in your desires.

 

I have found it to be kind of a hit or miss place. It is always kind of fun, but not always.

[SFViking]

Go!

 

For the $15 (or whatever the cover is up to these days) it is definitely worth it! I make a point of bringing any friend who's never been just for the experience. Nothing to compare to the Nob Hill. 12 of the hunkiest (white & latino) men you're ever likely to see nude in the span of two hours. (If you're only turned on by black guys, well, then, it might not be quite so exciting. I tend to prefer mostly men of color, but still find the Gaiety a MUST every time I visit NYC.)

 

As to picking someone up, well, that can be hit or miss. But just to say you sat in the seat where Madonna sat when she was cruising the naked boys at the Gaiety, would be worth the price of admission right there. A little bit of (gay) history you won't want to miss.

[Guest Sports]

Madonna, yes. Imagine talking to a very goodlooking latin dancer at the Gaiety and being pushed aside by Madonna and told "he's mine."

[Traveller]

If you're into juiced up, 6 inched, gay-for-pay white guys surrounded by a, what did you call it F3, a "morgue," sipping lemonade, by all means race right over to the Gaiety. If you like blacks and latinos in a much more fun space, where you can do some shots and grab big cock, go a block northwest to Stellas.

 

Later.

[KY_TOP]

I just returned a few days ago from my first trip to NYC. You should visit The Gaeity at least once. I'd suggest you do what I did and link to NYO's e-mail from the Gaeity review. He can answer any questions and even gave me a partial line up with a few tid-bits on a couple of the guys the week I went. He also answered several other questions I had about New York, sort of served as a Gay New York Tourist Bureau...Thanks Again NYO!

 

I went there 3 different nights,admission was $15 on Thur and $17 on Fri and Sat. There was 1 African American dancer and 2 that appeared Latino. All the guys were really hot and very well built and endowed. I did hook up with 2 dancers (they both approached me in the lounge) My 2 favorites I did not hook up with, they were already taken. I found out real quick the guys are a real dice roll. The first guy came to my hotel for $200 but let me know once we got there that for $300 "we will have more fun and do more to each other."

 

The second guy was very up front about asking what I liked to do before we left the Club. Once at my room he said $300 up front. Once he got me in bed and warmed up he said "this is how it works, for another $100 I'll let you do... and for another $100 I will do ...to you." He basicly would do what I had mentioned at the club but decided to do it on a sliding money scale. The third night I just got a seat by the stage up front and watched the whole show. It was fun and the guys got so close to me with their hard cocks I could memorize every vein in their cock. There are several shows each day, you might try an earlier show so you could still have time to go to Stella's or Reds if you did not like the Gaiety.

 

But, if you really want a FULL SERVICE guy without rolling the dice you should just go thru the escort section here. I also hooked up with a couple of guys from Campus and had a great time. With one of them (Jesse)I had 2 hours of some of the Best Sex I have ever had in my life. I also say a guy, from this site, that was visiting NYC from Toronto. He was great fun. These 3 guys were alot more fun than the 2 guys I met from The Gaiety, but I must admit it was alot of fun to watch that one Gaiety muscle jock service my cock.

 

Good Luck and have fun.

[NY Observer]

Thanks KY_Top, glad I was able to help out. I am happy to try to answer questions for anyone who is thinking of attending The Gaiety. Of course, any opinions I give on the boys are just my thoughts. I don't know who people are, what they like, what they want/need, so it's just advise based on what I've experienced or heard, hardly definitive.

 

I definitely think seeing a show is a good tourist attraction, even without shopping. There are lots of hot looking boys on stage. The guys at The Gaiety are a lot more limited in what they will do than an escort agency guy.

 

A piece of advise. DON'T tell the guys it's your first time at The Gaiety. I think they sense that and feel they can take advantage (please note, I was not asked about either Gaiety boy who charged more than the "going" 200 rate). While they might not want to talk much about it inside the Gaiety, my suggestion is to try to find out if the boys will do what you want them to do. Find out how long they'll spend with you, what it will cost (and any extra charges), what they will/won't do and if they are staying alone. Some of them share rooms with other dancers and this sometimes cuts down on their availability. Best practice is to have them come to your hotel in Times Square area, you won't have to worry about the interruptions. Unfortunately, things sometimes change when you get back to your final destination. Mostly, these are nice guys, but never forget, this is their job!! They are there for the money.

 

Don't hesitate to write if you want my two cents.

[KY_TOP]

>

>it would be a big help to mention the 2 guys with the menu

>pricing to alert other patrons. i'm also curious who the

>toronto visitor was, since i frequent toronto on a regular

>basis. more specifically, is he a dancer at remingtons?

 

I don't want to mention the guy's name that charged $300 instead of $200 for a couple of reasons. First, he was really a super nice guy, we talked a long while before we returned to my room and that's one reason I agreed to a private, he really wasn't my type but he was so damn nice. Second as NYO previously said these guys are making a living and this particular guy, for some reason did not seem to be drawing much attention in the lounge(guess this crowd just wasn't interested in bulked up,spikey haired blonds). He had been there all week and had hotel, travel, meal, and other expenses and I figured he just needed to make up on his losses. He knew It was my first time there, in fact all the dancers that talked with me asked "were I was from, had I been there before, and did they have places like The Gaeity back home were I was from." So, NYO is right about his advice on not telling them you are new there.

 

The guy with the real Menu Pricing up to $500 was a guy named Christopher apparently from Florida. He had a killer smile, body, and cock. Real eye candy.

 

The Cool guy from Toronto was Marcel Deon. I sent in a review that was posted a few days a go. Don't think he dances at Remington's.

We talked about Remington's and he didn't mention dancing there. He says he is much more discreet in Toronto than he is when visiting New York.

 

I would definitely recommend anyone who gets the chance to visit The Gaeity to do so. I can't wait to return, I'm a little smarter this time, and I enjoy striper bars.

[shy]

<The first guy came to my hotel for $200 but let me know once we got there that for $300 "we will have more fun and do more to each other."

 

The second guy was very up front about asking what I liked to do before we left the Club. Once at my room he said $300 up front. Once he got me in bed and warmed up he said "this is how it works, for another $100 I'll let you do... and for another $100 I will do ...to you." He basicly would do what I had mentioned at the club but decided to do it on a sliding money scale. The third night I just got a seat by the stage up front and watched the whole show. It was fun and the guys got so close to me with their hard cocks I could memorize every vein in their cock. There are several shows each day, you might try an earlier show so you could still have time to go to Stella's or Reds if you did not like the Gaiety.

 

But, if you really want a FULL SERVICE guy without rolling the dice you should just go thru the escort section here. I also hooked up with a couple of guys from Campus and had a great time. With one of them (Jesse)I had 2 hours of some of the Best Sex I have ever had in my life. I also say a guy, from this site, that was visiting NYC from Toronto. He was great fun.>

 

it would be a big help to mention the 2 guys with the menu pricing to alert other patrons. i'm also curious who the toronto visitor was, since i frequent toronto on a regular basis. more specifically, is he a dancer at remingtons?

[+ deej]

<<I have been to the Nob Hill past and present and find the thirty dollars entrance fee to be far too much. Also, I have NOT particularly enjoyed the place. Perhaps I would have liked it more if I had gone when the venue featured a super-hot porn star or escort!>>

 

There's a lot of good advice on this thread.

 

But I have a question: if you've never enjoyed the Nob Hill why do you think you might enjoy another strip club? After all, they're pretty much the same: guys dance and take off their clothes. You enjoy that or you don't.

 

Some guys just don't enjoy strip clubs. <shrug> That's not a judgement. Just some do, some don't.

 

Now, if it was the *performers* you didn't like, but you liked the *activity*, that's a horse of a different color.

 

Personally, if I'd never been to the Gaiety and found myself visiting NYC you can bet your ass I'd pay it a visit, just so I could say I'd been there. It's almost as much a part of gay history as Stonewall. (OK, not Stonewall, but it's still a landmark in gay history.)

 

Just my $.02

[shy]

<<I don't want to mention the guy's name that charged $300 instead of $200 for a couple of reasons. First, he was really a super nice guy, we talked a long while before we returned to my room and that's one reason I agreed to a private, he really wasn't my type but he was so damn nice. Second as NYO previously said these guys are making a living and this particular guy, for some reason did not seem to be drawing much attention in the lounge(guess this crowd just wasn't interested in bulked up,spikey haired blonds). He had been there all week and had hotel, travel, meal, and other expenses and I figured he just needed to make up on his losses. He knew It was my first time there, in fact all the dancers that talked with me asked "were I was from, had I been there before, and did they have places like The Gaeity back home were I was from." So, NYO is right about his advice on not telling them you are new there.

 

The guy with the real Menu Pricing up to $500 was a guy named Christopher apparently from Florida. He had a killer smile, body, and cock. Real eye candy.>>

 

from this reply you apparently didn't mind contributing to the first guys' welfare due to his alleged bad luck in not attracting clients, so i'm not sure why you even complained about him. did he state his price before you left the gaiety or wasn't price even mentioned until you got to the hotel? if he did indeed change his price quote after arriving in the hotel room i definitely think the situation warrents you divulging his name.

 

the chris you are referring to, if he is now from fl recently moved there from a city up north by the bay. he had previously mentioned a desire to move to fl, where he had frequently gone to dance in the past. he is a very popular dancer but seems to be changing and trying to take advantage of his popularity. after knowing him when he danced at the atlantis in the "charm city" i finally tried him for a private in ny, where he pulled the menu pricing deal on me. i

hadn't discussed too many details ahead of time assuming it wasn't necessary because of knowing him for several years. i'm glad you agreed to mention his name, as his devious methods deserve to be

exposed so people can see past his beautiful physical appearance and

outward charm.

[KY_TOP]

>from this reply you apparently didn't mind contributing to

>the first guys' welfare due to his alleged bad luck in not

>attracting clients, so i'm not sure why you even complained

>about him.

 

I did not feel I was complaining, merely replying to AXION's inquiry by relaying the details of my first vist to The Gaiety.

 

 

did he state his price before you left the

>gaiety or wasn't price even mentioned until you got to the

>hotel?

 

He offered a "Private Dance", no details offered, in my Hotel room for $200. Unlike Chris, were details were agreed to before we left the Theatre.

[mmk]

I have never been to the Gaiety (The only time I was in New York was around 1986 when I was still in college-was it opened then?) but I would like to see it at least once. I do not know when I will make it up to NYC but that would definately be on my "places to go" list.

[J-Man]

>But I have a question: if you've never enjoyed the Nob Hill

>why do you think you might enjoy another strip club? After

>all, they're pretty much the same: guys dance and take off

>their clothes.

 

Well, I just got back from NYC (my first trip in over five years) and I made my first pilgrimage to the Gaiety. I definitely beg to differ with the quoted statement above. The Nob Hill (and the old Campus) are QUITE different from the Gaiety!!! I found the Gaiety to be extremely prim and proper-- no touching, no jacking off-- NADA! At the San Francisco clubs, the performers all get up close and personal with the entire audience. At the Gaiety, only the people in a few seats even get a close-up view, and, as I said before, there's no touching or jacking off (by the performers OR the audience!)

 

I hope the dancers at the Gaiety are either (1) paid well or (2) make some bucks doing some escort work, because there's no way they can make much in tips when there are so few people who tip them at each show.

[Guest Jake]

Just to get it in perspective, I have several long term friends (yes, really) who have been dancing at the Gaiety for several years. The good ones make THOUSANDS each week they are there - and I mean 2-to-3 in a mediocore week, 3-to-5 in a good week and 5 plus, plus, plus in a great week. The tips are but a minor reflection of the relative earning power of the performer.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>Just to get it in perspective, I have several long term

>friends (yes, really) who have been dancing at the Gaiety

>for several years. The good ones make THOUSANDS each week

>they are there - and I mean 2-to-3 in a mediocore week,

>3-to-5 in a good week and 5 plus, plus, plus in a great

>week. The tips are but a minor reflection of the relative

>earning power of the performer.

 

OK - let's forget the 5 + + + of a great week and concentrate on the 3 - 5 of a good week, and 2 - 3 for mediocore.

 

Please tell us how this is possible. I've tried to do the math and it just doesn't add up!

 

Thunderbuns

[CT Dick]

If they dance five nights and do only two privates at $250 that's $2500.

 

Since they rarely (if ever) cum, they can do a private after every show.

 

That gets them into the reported range.

 

Dick (NOT a math teacher)

[Michael]

RE: Is Going to the Gaiety Worthwhile

 

Jake's numbers sound about right to me, based both on my own personal observation of Gaiety dancers, and what a good friend of mine who has worked there several times has told me.

 

Someone who is coming in from outside New York needs to be able to average at least 3 private shows a day in order to make it worth their while being there. Hotel and living expenses in NY are probably going to set them back $200 per day so the first private just gets them to break-even. Two more privates and some tips and they will end up with between $400 and $500 a day profit - ie somewhere between $2800 and $3500 a week after expenses.

 

Of course the "3 privates a day" is just an average - some days it's 5, some days it's 1 or none, and some days you get lucky and someone wants to spend $1000+ on you for an overnight.

 

I think that the best my friend ever did was about $8,000 (after expenses) for a 10 day trip where he placed an ad in HX and spent an extra weekend in NY immediately before his week at the Gaiety - he got lucky that time and had two guys who spent a lot (ie over $1000 each) on him.

 

On another occasion he wasn't so lucky and ended up with about $2000 after a week.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Is Going to the Gaiety Worthwhile

 

>On another occasion he wasn't so lucky and ended up with

>about $2000 after a week.

 

Poor boy - I feel for him. That's still over $100,000 a year. I'll bet most of our members don't make anywhere near that much - and let's not kid ourselves, for an escort that's largely if not completely Tax Free

 

Thunderbuns

[J-Man]

RE: Is Going to the Gaiety Worthwhile

 

While I can believe that some of them might make some extra money with "privates" or escorting, it seemed to me that, at least on the night I was there, only a VERY small number (I only recall three) of the dancers even made themselves available for "meeting" in the lounge area, and, from everything I've read on this board, many of the dancers are either straight and/or not willing to provide much in the way of "services." "Informed consumers" are unlikely to pay the going escort rate for the limited service these guys appear to be providing, so I have a hard time believing that many dancers are really making big bucks from "outside work."

[Guest JustANametoPlay]

RE: Is Going to the Gaiety Worthwhile

 

J-Man while it may seem that some don't make themselves available, I have never seen one that doesn't. While theymaynot go to th eloinge after being on stage, remember that many have pre set appointments.