Kip O'Brien's response 2/23

February 28, 2002

I hope you are not serious........

because if you are, you are, at some point in the future, headed for a great deal of trouble.

February 28, 2002

>Being a twink lover myself, and knowing that young people

>have lots to learn, I am very happy that you have learned a

>valuable lesson... and that you have extended your

>apologies. Your reply sounds sincere, and hopefully it is.

>Next time I am in Boston, I for one would trust you with a

>call...

>

>Hope to meet you soon.

I'd like to think that you wrote this as a joke, but after seeing all of the peole who continued to throw money at Anthony Holloway, Danny Damon, and the like despite ample warning, I'm not sure! :o

This guy not only steals money from a client, but he later brags about it, destroys the client's life by telling the client's family and employer, and later comes up with some even more ridiculous story to boot! I always try to be non-judgmental and objective , but it this instance I'm just going to have to say "Anybody who hires Kip deserves whatever may happen to him!" And I'm sure Kip is laughing and feeling the same way.

February 28, 2002

>This guy not only steals money from a client, but he later

>brags about it, destroys the client's life by telling the

>client's family and employer, and later comes up with some

>even more ridiculous story to boot!

Well, there's that, but did he watch the clock? :+

February 28, 2002

Yeah, and did he take his baseball cap off, that's what I want to know.

marc anthony · March 1, 2002

Of course everyone should come to their own conclusions in this case... but I think it is very different from the other escorts that you quoted who have a string of negative reviews. This escort has nothing but glowing reviews, then has one which is quite nasty, posts his own nasty response, and does a quick back peddle after he gets blasted on this message center. All I am saying is that not knowing anything at all about the situation that prompted all of these nasty exchanges, I personally believe that jury is still out on Kip, and I if and when I get to Boston, I am willing to try him out. Young people are known to overreact and have little understanding of diplomacy, etc... but if they are willing to learn, I give them the benefit of the doubt. BTW... from what I read, he did NOT go to a client's wife, family, etc... He threatened that he might, and then quickly recanted saying he wrote that in anger and that he would never do such a thing. I can't believe that none of us (especially when we were 21) never said something we wouldn't really do because we were angry and upset.

Not trying to change anyone's mind. Just telling you why I made up my own.

Rick Munroe · March 1, 2002

I just got around to reading the review/rebuttal in question. The odd thing is that I don't see anything in the review about Kip stealing $50 from the client. That detail was only revealed in Kip's response. It looks, to the casual observer, like he shot himself in the foot with that one. Or am I missing something here?

March 1, 2002

>I just got around to reading the review/rebuttal in

>question. The odd thing is that I don't see anything in the

>review about Kip stealing $50 from the client. That detail

>was only revealed in Kip's response. It looks, to the

>casual observer, like he shot himself in the foot with that

>one. Or am I missing something here?

The client doesn't give a specific amount, but he does say not to trust Kip, that he will rob you, and that he scams people.

Other than that he liked Kip just fine.

March 1, 2002

I agree that Kip demonstrated his character in his statement about steeling $50. It is like the concept of theft doesn't apply below the $500 threshold. There are some escorts out there about whom I would say "put a bag over their mind" and I can do them, but this guy apparently has some very significant character defects. The upside is that there are millions of hot escorts in this world to choose from. I certainly don't need to put myself at risk with this sociopath. Thank God for a forum like this. I hate arranging escort services and having a hustler show up. I hate playing the hustler games.

March 1, 2002

Hey, Kip here... just waiting for my latest post to be viewable to all. It explains everything in much fuller detail. I am beginning to wonder if HooBoy is not posting it because it was too juicy? It was the truth and may have cleared everyone's negative thoughts. If it doesn't get posted I may have to rewrite it without as much detail/exposure to the truth as i wanted.

LOVE, Kip O'Brien

XOXO

March 2, 2002

>I just got around to reading the review/rebuttal in

>question. The odd thing is that I don't see anything in the

>review about Kip stealing $50 from the client. That detail

>was only revealed in Kip's response. It looks, to the

>casual observer, like he shot himself in the foot with that

>one. Or am I missing something here?

You are missing something. The original review states that Kip asked for money up front and then suggested the client go and pay for the hotel room. The client does not give the details of what occurred next, but from his statement that Kip can be expected to rob clients I and others have inferred that Kip simply took off with the money. Kip's response seems to confirm this.

Lest my posts about Kip seem too censorious, I would like to express my gratitude to him for his response to the review and for his posts in this thread. They are easily the most ridiculous things I have seen on this site in some weeks, and I enjoyed them very much. I do hope he continues to post here. Thanks to Marc Anthony also. :-)

March 2, 2002

>Obviously, he took the money, got cocky, bragged about it,

>everyone here reacted negatively, he realized he fucked up

>big time, fear set in, leading to some desperate nonsensical

>damage control. It's classic.

I agree 100% with Donnie.

Obviously, I have entered some parallel universe.

Dizzily yours,

FFF

March 2, 2002

It boggles my mind that Marc Anthony wants to hire this man when he gets to Boston. He feels he deserves another chance. Is he nuts???

Kip O'Brien obviously is shooting himself in the foot with every one of his responses. Most of what he says doesn't make any sense. Marc...you should send him a private e-mail and advise him to refrain from any more responses. When you do hire him, you should send in a review informing us all of how you found him. Of course, he probably should give you a "freebie" for telling us all that he is not a thief nor did he expose you to your family, whatever. :7

March 3, 2002

>Young people are known to overreact

>and have little understanding of diplomacy, etc... but if

>they are willing to learn, I give them the benefit of the

>doubt.

I wonder what you next move would be. Hiring an admitted pedophile to babysit your children because maybe the guy's changed his ways? Most people have done rash things in their youth, but I can assure you that neither I nor most people participating in this string would even think of doing the despicable things Kip did, let alone brag about it. Kip is not just an indiscreet youth. Sociopaths rarely change their ways. That's why we have three-strikes laws. Kip is rotten to the core, and will probably be that way to his dying day. I can only hope that most of those days end up being behind bars somehow.

marc anthony · March 3, 2002

No... I wouldn't hire a pedophile to watch my kids (quite an analogy). And I don't label someone a sociopath based on some immature ramblings on a message board about prostitution. Anyway, like I said, I am not going to try to change anyone's mind, but I have made up my own already. And I take pretty good care of myself in this business of hiring boys. Anyways I am on a traveling escort binge right now and having way too much fun with other 19 and 20 year old cute boys to worry about it. Not that many of these kids think that clearly either... but they sure are fuckable!:9

Trixie · March 3, 2002

I think Marc is being a SAVVY consumer here! Obvoiusly, little Kip is going to have to kiss major butt (in the biblical sense) to get in good graces with the community at M4M again. If Kip wants to continue on in this biz, one can only imagine that his next few clients are going to have a VERY good time.

Or as my dear grandmama used to say, "when the pig is roasting on the spit, one must feast before it burns." God love those moldavian peasants!

I noticed tonight that Kip has just added himself to Americanmale, listing his pricing as $250 for 1-2 hours. I wonder, who decides if it's one or two? Kip, or the client?

March 6, 2002