Escort pricing... Can anyone give me the rules?

[Trixie]

Ohhhhh...I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot o' flack on my very first post. But still, something's gotta be said! I've been hiring escorts for around three years now, and in those three years the general per-hour rate has jumped all out of proportion to the quality of guys and their abilities in general. After checking out several week's worth of reviews, it seems that country-wide the low end range is around $200,

easily creeping up to $250-$350! Per hour!! And we're not talking Falcon models here, just your average "big fish in a small pond" type guys. Already, a $200 per hour dude who works 3 hours a week is making a whole lot more than I am, working a 40 hour week. Now, I don't want to begrudge anyone livin' the life they've become accustomed to, but I think some egos are getting a little over inflated. Ok there, I said it. And furthermore, the next escort who says to me "oh, do you mind if I don't cum? I've already done it twice today." and then charges me $200 is gonna get his butt kicked from the Presidio to the Embarcadero!

[Trixie]

Sure, sure every job has it's risks...Hell, I work retail. My chance of bein exposed to "physical violence and disease" is a lot higher than most escorts. I'm sure EVERY 'scort has found himself in an awkward situation now and then, and had a bad night. Comes with the territory. I wish I could ask for a raise everytime I've had a bad day at work. But let's face it, these guys are deciding their own income Tax Free, and their decisions are made not by the job-related risks, but by how much they think other guys might be gettin'. That's not fair market value, that's more like Enron.

[Trixie]

"Just proves you can make up your own price, doesn't mean anyone will take you up on it."

That's for sure!!! The thing is, Men do take them up on it. And I think the main reason is that alot of us guys (myself included) are suckers for a pretty face. (Or big dick, if that's your motivation.) There are alot of guys out there who'll pay a bundle and then tip effusively just so they can feel like a pretty boy likes them. By throwing around their money, they'd like to feel they're winning the affection of...well, probably the guy they had a crush on in high school. Or a symbol thereof, represented by the escort. Unfortunately, they're quietly deluding themselves, and making it harder on those of us who don't have and endless supply of money to find an occasional hour of satisfaction.

[Guest Ant415]

Yes, was some kid on aol. I laughed as well. He didnt have his rate posted, thus I asked.

[Trixie]

Hey, GuyinSF,

Please please please tell me who those guys are you know of that charge less than $150 per hour.

[chrismac]

>Apart from visiting or local "porn stars", I don't think

>that most escorts ask for more than $200 per hour.

 

Oh boy - you haven't been to New York, or L.A., or even Houston in a while. Seems $250 is the median now (whereas $150, then up until about last year $200 were the norm in larger cities). That's what I've seen anyway.

 

For a real deal - Europe is still reasonably priced (especially with the weaker Euro - but the UK Sterling will hit you a bit). Although the selection may not be as wide in all of Europe as in just New York itself, the "Crowned Heads of Europe" still stand out with me for value; good attitudes, passion (they kiss without making it seem like such a big deal), they seem to really enjoy the work. Germany, England, and France to a certain extent are the best bets. I spent 3 hours in Berlin with Europe's hottest top escort for only 300 deutschmarks (talk about a bargain) just last year, and he even asked me out to a drink (he paid) afterwards!

 

Not that you can't find that in the USA - you just pay more for it.

[Guest tmbg]

There are no rules that I'm aware of. They set the price and you determine if you want to spend the money :-) As in any business it is what the market will support.

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest JimSFO]

I think it is 'what ever the market can bare,' in other words, if I ask $300 and you give it to me, that is the price. Escort prices where I live in San Diego are certainly inflated and out of line. So I don't buy an escorts service when I am home. Fortunately I travel a lot. I think the reason prices here are so out of line is that there are relatively few escorts plying their wares here and it seems that there is also an agency inflating prices. The only thing the consumer can do is refuse to purchase until the prices fall into line. I don't begrudge escort the money. And many are worth a lot. But I have never paid an inflated price for an escort and then in the end thought thought that the 'value for money' was missing. Same thing with masseurs. Usually, I have found, if a masseure here charges $80, it is generally not worth it. :o

[Guest seraph250]

I once saw a post here with a suggestion that I think is a very good one. You decide how much you want to pay for an hour or whatever, and if the escort quotes a higher rate just tell him "$X is all I pay, if that doesn't work for you then thanks anyway." If your rate is not too low, I think you will find that a lot of escorts will take you up on it. It often works for me.

[Damascene]

Then again, it can also be influence by escort self-esteem. One of my old favorites (I first slept with him in fall 1994 through an agency)is just back in the business. I've been with him twice in two weeks. He is charging me not just 1994 price, but what he made from the agency in 1994. I tell him he is charging to little and he answers, "I'm not the cute, young twink I was back then". No, know he is a 30ish, masculine fireplug of a guy - he evolved with my tastes. I leave him a very generous tip but I can't help but think of how much more he could charge.

[Guest Ant415]

There are no rules, it's free enterprize at work.

 

$600 a week? How can you afford to live in SF and hire escorts as well?

 

I had a funny chat with some 19yo kid in the bay area. He looked decent, although very skinny. Said his rate is $450/hr and he doesn't bottom -- only tops. I just said no thanks. He kept pressing me for a date, but I said the rate is too much for me. He was clueless, so I didn't even bother to discuss rates for other guys in the area. Most in the SF area charge $200-250. I asked what makes him so much better, if can demonstrate your value, I will make a date. He wasn't able to tell me, but did say he will be flexible with the rate.

 

He went on and said he is a high-class, upscale escort, and is worth the money ( kinda funny considering he TyPEd LikE thIS, and used words like "dude" and "hella").

 

Just proves you can make your own price, but doesn't mean anyone will take you up on it.

[+ imagooddog]

I agree that some of the pricing is getting high, especially in

some locations. But you also have to keep in mind the escort's

work (and I do not mean to defend the escorts).

You might make 600 a week for 40 hours work and the escort might

make 600 for 3 hours work for the week. But he is taking certain

"work related" risks that you probably are not, such as the

possibility of physical violence and exposure to disease, plus

having to have sex with partners that are not ideal. I know, his

job is his choice, just as yours is for you.

It really all boils down to what the market will bear and how

busy the escort wants to stay.

Ok, I put my 2cents worth in.

[Rick Munroe]

>You decide how much you want to pay for an

>hour or whatever, and if the escort quotes a higher rate

>just tell him "$X is all I pay, if that doesn't work for you

>then thanks anyway."

 

What a great idea...I just tried it at Boston Market and got a half chicken with 2 sides & cornbread for only $2.00! (OK, I had to toss in a blow job for the manager) :9

[guyinsf]

Apart from visiting or local "porn stars", I don't think that most escorts ask for more than $200 per hour. I actually think that the going rate is more like $150 to $200 for the first hour, with subsequent hours frequently discounted. And there are some really hot guys who charge less than $150 (some not even reviewed here, by their choice).

 

I would just laugh at anyone who quoted me $450 per hour. Given your description of his typing and language, I actually assume that it was just someone online pretending to be an escort. I know that some guys do claim to be "upscale" and have commensurate rates, but I don't think THoSe GuyS tyPE lIke THiS. I have encountered a lot of "pretend escorts", particularly on AOL.

[Trixie]

Rick, with your libido, YOU shoud be paying your clients!

[+ Axiom2001]

>Apart from visiting or local "porn stars", I don't think

>that most escorts ask for more than $200 per hour. I

>actually think that the going rate is more like $150 to $200

>for the first hour, with subsequent hours frequently

>discounted. And there are some really hot guys who charge

>less than $150 (some not even reviewed here, by their

>choice).

>

>I would just laugh at anyone who quoted me $450 per hour.

>Given your description of his typing and language, I

>actually assume that it was just someone online pretending

>to be an escort. I know that some guys do claim to be

>"upscale" and have commensurate rates, but I don't think

>THoSe GuyS tyPE lIke THiS. I have encountered a lot of

>"pretend escorts", particularly on AOL.

 

Guy, would you email me with names and email addresses of those "hot" escorts who charge lower than $150, please. I am seeing a hot man in SF who charges 175 for the first hr. and another 100 for the second. I've been with him four times, once for two hrs., and I do plan to see him again.

 

I do like what most of the others have written who addressed this topic or question. Axiom2001

[Guest jeffOH]

I love it when a prospective client calls me after having seen one of my ads or read my reviews which have my rates listed and even after I have run through my spiel, say, "Well, I only have $$$ or I only pay $$$." I always POLITELY tell them to give me a call when they have my fee or perhaps they should try someone else. I don't care if the amount that they say they have is only $10 less. I find it tacky. I don't like to haggle unless it's for a big purchace like a car. But, hey, if it works for you, go for it.

 

JEFF

jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest LuckyLaCoste]

Guys

I normally dont respond,but this topic I had just had to. I think that you get what you pay for. You can get an escort for a really low price, but what are you really getting. I charge $250 for the first hour, and $200 for each additonal hour. Think about it, The safety issue, the health issue, the chance of getting arrested, and the issue that is the hardest is the mental issue. It is not always easy not knowing what you are walking into. If an escort arrives and you dont like them you can turn them away. As an escort I arrive knowing that I have to be a professional no matter what, only in a case of me fearing for my safety would that change. I have clients in all shapes and sizes, regardless everyone gets treated the same. As far as the not cumming issue, Some escorts like myself choose to only scheldule one client a day, that way the client never suffers from being the second or third date. If this is a problem it is not hard to ask the escort ahead of time if he does mutiple clients in one day. So, once again I say, dont down the ones who do charge a little more, cause you in the end are getting more.

Lucky LaCoste

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>There are no rules that I'm aware of. They set the price and

>you determine if you want to spend the money :-) As in any

>business it is what the market will support.

 

I quite agree - that's the way it is and always will be.

 

But - I would like to point out something that most escorts don't take into account, and probably don't give a rat's ass about. This may apply to Canada, more than the US as I think we have higher income tax rates.

 

I am in a 50% tax bracket. I recently had a 2 hour session with a great escort who charges $300 per hour (with no discount for the 2nd hour) So, this cost me $600. As this took place in LA the $600 was in US funds so out of my pocket it was more like $900. But I had to earn $1800 in order to pay this 900.

 

In other words my payment came from after tax dollars. But chances are that the escort probably will not declare the cash I gave him and thereby escape paying tax on it. Doesn't seem quite fair somehow.

 

Was the sex good? Hell yes - it was fantastic. But was it worth $1800

to me for a 2 hour afternoon delight? NO! It will be a long time before I do that again. Now I know this might sound like an extreme example. But let's suppose it the "date" was in Canada, the rate was only $250 and I only bought one hour. I still have to earn $500. to pay for it.

 

Some would argue that if a person is in a 50% tax bracket he can damn well afford the bucks. Maybe so - or maybe not. But regardless it has to boil down to value for money. Just because you have the dough doesn't mean you're willing to pay $50 for a MacDonalds hamburger. That may be an unfortunate analogy, but I think you get my drift.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Dan]

Someone wrote that the median price is now about $250! Jeez, makes me at $200 feel like street trash! I feel that $250 and above are porn star rates.

 

$200 seems reasonable for a town like L.A. and I guess SFO a couple of other places, but Cleveland??? I knew a guy who lived in Hollywood and charged $200 for incalls and local outcalls. He charged $250 to go to Studio City in the Valley, which was all of 10 minutes away! I am much more lenient and charge the same rate for parts of Orange County and even up to Ventura depending on the time of day since it may take me only 30 minutes.

 

And oh, yes, I will cum for you if you wish. I also figure that I'm getting well paid enough that I don't have to see more than one client a day. Of course if I didn't cum with the previous client...:+

[Trixie]

Regarding the "issues" you have... safety, disease, being arrested...do you think that we "johns" don't worry about the same things? Let's face it, in this town, and probably yours as well, the "johns" face a greater risk of running into a police sting than yourself. And, given that most "johns" want to be fucked (i'm not included there)

rather than fuck, you're pretty safe there. Not to mention that MOST escorts practise safe sex. If you don't well, too bad. For you as well as your johns. As for the crazies... that's totally your deal. Once again, we johns are up against the same thing (see post about $450 dollar nut).

[Trixie]

By the way Lucky... you are someone I've taken notice of. Take a look at the post I left in "Ask An Escort" and tell me if you're up for it. I don't mind paying for the right guy...

[Trixie]

You won't love it when they POLITELY stop calling!

[Guest jeffOH]

>You won't love it when they POLITELY stop calling!

 

Well, I plan on retiring before that happens. I've been at it for 10 years now and my business keeps increasing. Fortunately, not everyone has such an attitude towards escorts.

 

If you think an escort is charging too much and you decide that it's more than you want to spend, you are responsible for making that decision just as you are when you make the decision to hire an escort.

 

Some clients have a love/hate attitude towards escorts. They love how we can make them feel, but then become resentful when their unresolved feelings about themselves come into play. I realized long ago that this really has nothing to do with me personally.

 

JEFF

jeff4hire@aol.com

[chrismac]

By throwing

>around their money, they'd like to feel they're winning the

>affection of...well, probably the guy they had a crush on in

>high school. Or a symbol thereof, represented by the escort.

> Unfortunately, they're quietly deluding themselves, and

>making it harder on those of us who don't have and endless

>supply of money to find an occasional hour of satisfaction.

 

Well said! As the cowardly lion lamented, "Ain't it the truth!"

 

There are still enough high-quality escorts out there who charge reasonable rates (and if they're REALLY good, I think they deserve a premium for their talents). I would prefer to show this in a healthy tip of 30-50%, but the escort can't count on that from everyone (or even most, probably).

 

Hey - I have an idea, why don't we all band together to support only the escorts who stay engaged with us on this message center? We could guarantee repeat business, even schedule weeks and months ahead, pay deposits (with penalties for cancellations), and negotiate reasonable rates that both the escort and the client would find fair. Now, who wants to take on the job of travel agent (making fair commission, of course) to arrange all the travel for the clients and escorts? Could be a nice way to defer the costs of visiting your favorite escort!

 

Supply and demand, supply and demand. Economics 101 is what we're discussing here. If we manage ourselves well as clients, hiring escorts occasionally is a beautiful solution to our busy schedules and antipathy towards the bar scene. I just wonder where those of us will go when the median price for the good escorts goes up to $350/400, and the only people who can afford them are Hollywood stars or wealthy entrepreneurs who see nothing of shelling out $1,000 plus expensive dinners, limousines, airfare, and hotels all for a 4-5 hour meeting.

 

:-)