Problem Posting Escort Reviews on this Site

[Barry]

>I find the phony reviews as

>upsetting as everyone else but

>think that the old system

>of verifying email and IP

>addresses should suffice. This newest

>invasive policy by Hooboy will

>just cause a lot of

>independent reviewers to stop submitting

>their opinions.

>

 

I understand where you're coming from but in reality email addys and IP addys really aren't of that much value. There are so many free email services out there and most people use an ISP that provides a different IP each time you sign on. Very few people have static IP addresses. It's certainly not very easy or cheap to keep changing your phone number. IMHO

[Guest Wildcats]

My situation is that, like probably many in this board, I am married, with heavy emotional investment to it, and have a very active heterosexual sex life, while at the same time carrying on with a homosexual sex life with escorts, taking all precautions for discretion. Call it closeted or bisexual, or just a plain sex-addict, I don't care. But I'm happy the way it is. I will be submitting a review very soon, and, much as admire HooBoy's devotion to this Board, if he will ask for my phone number, he will certainly not get it, and the review won't be submitted.

[Guest ChicagoCorey]

A couple of thoughts:

 

I completely understand not wishing to give out your number for all the reasons stated. As you can see if you go to my site, I had a client who wrote a review of me that didn't get posted for this very reason -- he refused to give out his number. I "get that" and respect his decision.

 

I like that I've gotten positive reviews and I'm sure they've helped "the business" and I regret if I, or others, didn't get reviews because the reviewer didn't feel comfortable giving out their number. However, if there isn't some sort of (maybe extreme) system to check the validity of the posters, then all reviews become meaningless. And I'd rather have a few reviews that mean something than a board with tons of reviews that hold no water.

 

That said, someone mentioned that they think a "majority" of clients are closeted/married guys. Do other escorts (or those who know "the business" well beyond their own hiring experience) find this to be the case? That hasn't really been my experience, but it may just be the type of guy I attracted. I'm interested to hear other's ideas.

 

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[Guest Nocturnal]

DeeJ,

 

Can I have your number? Oh well, it never hurts to ask.

[+ deej]

>That said, someone mentioned that they

>think a "majority" of clients

>are closeted/married guys. Do

>other escorts (or those who

>know "the business" well beyond

>their own hiring experience) find

>this to be the case?

> That hasn't really been

>my experience, but it may

>just be the type of

>guy I attracted. I'm

>interested to hear other's ideas.

 

Fascinating question to ask! I'll look forward to the responses!

 

Personally, I doubt any sentence that starts with "Most clients are..." would be accurate (well, OK, maybe "most clients are horny" ;-)) any more than "Most escorts are...". One of the things this message board proves over and over again is that we're a diverse bunch, on both sides of the transaction.

[Guest regulation]

I agree with those who have expressed reservations about giving a phone number in order to verify a review. I certainly sympathize with HB's desire to weed out the phoney reviews, no one more so, but to expect clients who need and want discretion to talk to a third party about what they are doing and allow that party to make any sort of record of their phone numbers and activities is expecting a little too much in my opinion.

 

It makes little sense to say that in verifying the details of an escort appointment with HB one is not saying any more than was said to the escort himself. Every communication that one makes about such a transaction, every telephone record or other record that is created, increases the legal risk to those involved.

 

I understand what HB is trying to do, but although one result of this policy may be ridding the site of bogus reviews, another result will surely be discouraging a number of legitimate reviews.

[+ deej]

>DeeJ,

>

>Can I have your number?

> Oh well, it

>never hurts to ask.

>

 

 

ROFLMAO!

 

Honey, the answer (as always) is "it depends".

 

If you're a cute, smooth, bottom you'll get way more than my number. ;-)

[HooBoy]

I quietly instituted this policy several months ago and only now has anything been mentioned of it.

 

As you may have noticed there has been no lack of daily reviews. Days with only 4 or 5 reviews are due to my outside workload or travel. They are invariably followed by days with 20-30 reviews.

 

In fact, the number of people who do NOT participate in the verification process is about 15%. I respect their opinion and I am working on a solution.

 

So if you guys would like to put your thinking caps on and make SUGGESTIONS on SOLUTIONS rather than wail and knash my cyber-teeth, this thread may become productive. :-)

 

HooBoy

Email: HooBoy@male4malescorts.com

[ready182]

Geez - look at what I started

 

Actually, I need everyone to send me your social security number, mothers maiden name, fingerprints, and a recent photo

[ready182]

I don't know if calling you (for verification) at an agreed upon time is acceptable or not, from your standpoint, but as for me I would be willing to do this; whereas I would not be willing to provide my phone number. Was that a run-on sentence or what

[Guest jizzdepapi]

RE: Geez - look at what I started

 

Actually, i can't provide any of the items you request, but if you will make a donation of $59.95 to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I will mail you a cum-encrusted sweaty teeshirt as well as a little plastic Jesus for your dashboard.

 

Praise the Lord,

Jizz

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

FIrst, you had better have Caller ID Blocking... Second, what would that prove beyond the fact that a warm body submittted the review. If someone is going to go to the trouble to submit a bogus review why wouldn't he be willing to call Hoo anonymously (with blocking) to establish his authenticity. Now if Hoo only relies on his expertise at cross examination this may not matter much.

[Bilbo]

Long list, haven't read it all yet, but:

 

I always ask(ed) my clients if they were married or in a one on one closed relationship, and, if so, if they had their partner's permission to fool around on the side. If not, then, for religious reasons of my own (I think that each of us difines "adultury" for himself.) and out of consideration for the spouse's feelings (And respect for the damage a pissed off spouse could cause me), I declined the booking. Interestingly enough, the vice cop who entrapped me told me over the phone that he was single and then when I arrived at the motel room, one of the things he told me during the conversation before he revealed his true intentions, was that he had lied and he was married. I'm sure he got his moral jollies off over that one, that I wouldn't even stand behind my own expressed morals. What did he expect me to do? Go storming out of the room? Well, then, but if I had, I might not have been arrested, eh?

[Bilbo]

This board is about reviewing escorts, but it is also, intentionally or not, about bringing escorting out of secrecy and shadows and into a lot more respect. Until you can join us in that journey, please watch this pride parade from the sidelines. As Hoo pointed out, there are quite enough reviews without yours. And we can hear your thoughts, votes and applause here in the threads. (This is, of course, aimed at a group, not any particular poster.)

[Guest regulation]

B, there is nothing that is going to happen on this website that is going to change the fact that prostitution is illegal almost everywhere or the fact that very few people who hire prostitutes would care to have that made public. If you doubt the latter, let's institute a rule that no one can submit a review without publishing his real name and address.

 

HB, my remarks were meant to imply no criticism of you. I said in a previous thread on this subject that I do NOT have a solution to the problem of verifying reviews. I simply wish to express my opinion that the criticism in this thread of those who are too concerned about discretion to supply phone numbers is unwarranted.

[Guest 90069]

For what it's worth, yesterday I submitted my first review. The immediate response I received was to confirm my email address ("no reply needed"). Then today I got a request for my phone number, which I supplied.

 

HooBoy called me very soon after to confirm I was me (!). While I suppose I'm not thrilled to have to supply a number, I can deal with it. Finding this site made me very very happy last week (thanks again, Mike...*HUG*), as I hope it will in the future.

 

The only "negative" thing I can offer is that HooBoy must be lousy at phonesex...he never once suggested or offered it!

[ready182]

RE: I will mail you a cum-encrusted sweaty teeshirt

 

I'll do <almost> anything for a T-shirt!

[Guest MrB]

>

>The only "negative" thing I can

>offer is that HooBoy must

>be lousy at phonesex...he never

>once suggested or offered it!

>

 

 

On the contrary, he is VERY good at it but he keeps it for established reviewers only. I am so happy :-)Hoo!

 

 

MrB

[Guest]

>FIrst, you had better have Caller

>ID Blocking... Second, what would

>that prove beyond the fact

>that a warm body submittted

>the review. If someone

>is going to go to

>the trouble to submit a

>bogus review why wouldn't he

>be willing to call Hoo

>anonymously (with blocking) to establish

>his authenticity. Now if

>Hoo only relies on his

>expertise at cross examination this

>may not matter much.

 

 

Well, it's a lot easier to set up multiple bogus e-mail addresses than fake phone numbers. Yes, and escort could submit ten fake reviews and have the phone company change his phone number ten times, but it's much less likely to happen.

[Guest fwm]

I couldn't agree more. I was asked for my phone number for verification( of what I am not sure) but was told that I would be contacted within 24 hours. Also was told that without the phone number, my review would not be posted. I was most anxious to get my revfiew posted, so I complied, and Hooboy has yet to call, for more than a week now. HOOboy also has not posted my review as his confirmation assured me that he would do within 1 to 3 days. What the hell gives here?

[Guest jeffOH]

>What's the big deal about submitting

>a phone# with a review?

>

>I just don't get it? Are

>you married, have a boyfriend,

>what's

>the deal? I see it as

>one way to check the

>validity of a review

>in addition to verifying by e-mail

>what a reviewer has written.

>

>There's only so much Hooboy can

>do to maintain the integrity

>of this site. I don't

>believe it's unreasonable at all.

>If you're

>so far in the closet or

>paranoid, maybe you should wait

>until

>you're more comfortable with the whole

>thing.

 

I just wanted to share an anonymous e-mail I received this eve.

from someone who didn't like my opinion on this topic.

 

"Are you that independent that you don't need the services of

married or closeted men? How about the client who for no other

reason simply wishes to remain discreet? You certainly have nerve

questioning the motives of others."

 

What a lovely e-mail to wake up to after a rather pleasant nap.

CLARIFICATION! When I said, "...maybe you should wait until you're more comfortable with the whole thing," I meant comfortable with the system of checks and balances that HOOBOY

currently has in place or until there is an alternative means

of verifying the validity of reviews that will allow for such

discretion.

 

I was NOT, repeat, NOT saying don't use the services of escorts

until you're out of the closet. My business does not hinge on

the tiny minority of married or closeted men who don't want to

share their phone#s to verify a review.

 

This person certainly had alot of nerve sending me a private

e-mail rather than posting his opinion here. So much for discretion...I now have his e-mail address/screen name and pulled up his profile on AOL.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com