Guilt

[Bilbo]

A carefully cultivated trust in one's fellow man whether deserved or not can be quite attractive, and not just to "the wrong sort." (And in some circle, is known as being Christian about it.) Just don't let it burn you if you can help it, unless you're busy consciously turning the other cheek.

[Guest AtlGAyDad]

To those of you who have offered insightful responses to my question, thank you. To those who have offered angry feedback, get a life. It's not like I crapped all over your Holy Grail. I value this site as much as you do, check it daily, and have made escort hiring decisions based on the feedback of contributors. I do not think that I have in any way debased a web site that is basically about hiring prostitutes.

I am the father of an 18 y/o girl. She does not have the maturity to have sex, much less become a prostitute. Why do you think that 18 y/o boys have more maturity and are better prepared to emotionally handle their acts, even if it IS legal?

For those of you who have researched all of my postings on this site, I have several suggestions: I have not been nominated to be the next Attorney General (although I would be better than Ashcroft) and my paper trail doesn't mean shit to the life of anyone, including myself or you; my few postings have prompted considerable response and viewers, which leads me to believe that others share my concerns; I don't think that I am the only person on this site who has concerns about sex with 18 year olds; and I am in no way bitter about my life or yours.

[Guest shadow]

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No offense,AltGayDad, and this could be a separate unrelated thread in itself, but you would be surprised at what 18 year olds do behind their parent's back.

 

I'm 24 y/o myself so that wasn't too long ago for me to remember.

Then again, we were all 18 once so maybe it isn't so a surprise. Hmmm?

 

This reply is probably pretty unrelated to the issue of guilt. I just decided to throw this in as a side note.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>>I am the father of an 18 y/o girl. She does not have the maturity to have sex, much less become a prostitute<<

 

Does she live in a cave? Have you talked to her honestly lately? Emily Post says the well heeled young lady should be ready to turn her first trick within six months of her coming out. Why, in Victorian times a well monied and widely respected patriarch would make the arrangements himself, often with great bluster and ado, and usually offering the lass to a trusted business associate or loyal client - sometimes even a distant uncle - for her maiden rental.

 

>>When I was 18, I didn't have a clue about life<<

 

I think you're still missing one or two. Seriously, if you really talk with her I'll bet you'll find that she's not only mature enough to have sex, but that she's already screwed enough guys to have switched over to girls. And what makes you think guys can handle prostitution better than girls? I'll bet if you took an informal inner city street poll, you'd find more ladies of the night than boys, and living much harder lives. I realize the numbers wouldn't be entirely indicitive of a gay per capita supply and demand, but when these gals aren't servicing some other statistic, they're clawing their way to a place in society with all the 'maturity' they can muster, so give our working sisters some credit. Female escorts have it way tougher, both physically and mentally. Can you imagine if twinks could get pregnant? The number of suicides among them would become epidemic and crimes of extortion by cute fey boys would skyrocket.

To address your original question, I don't think you should feel any guilt. At least not about having sex with eighteen yeas olds. At that age, boy or girl, a person should know what they're doing and why. However, I myself hustled a trick or two at the age of eighteen, and although I knew what I was doing, I didn't do it because I enjoyed the work. I did it becuase I was very hungry. Literally. And it would have been such a memorable gesture if just one of those boy loving johns had offered to take me out for a meal when we were through. I guess that's what the money's for. j.c.

[MiamiLooker]

If I understand the situation, you feel guilty about having sex with 18 year old guys, but not guilty enough to stop. If that's the case then your problem is much more than just a sexual thing. Next time you get the urge, buy a porno mag or movie instead, beat off, and donate what you would have spent to a good AIDS charity. Or maybe you should start seeing 19 year olds instead. Or, better yet, keep in mind that the escort telling you he's 18 is probably closer to 30 in the real world.

[Guest shadow]

hmmmmm...

 

exploiting an 18 y/o or some other young twink to make him give me sex in return for shelter, food, and security.... I think that I might add that to my list of fantasies hehehehe

[BewareofNick]

AtlGayDad...

 

Since you are feeling so torn over hiring an 18 year old, check out the thread on Anthony Holloway in The Deli. He's 19 now, been hustling since he was 18 (maybe earlier??) He rips clients off on a regular basis. This kid knows EXACTLY what he is doing. If you are looking to be cured of hiring kids in their late teens, arrange a date with Anthony. That oughtta do it.

[Guest shadow]

BewareofNick,

 

you have the wisdom of Solomon and the humor of the world's best comedians.

 

You have made me laugh and nod my head at the same time

[Guest AtlGAyDad]

Beware of Nick, living in Atlanta as I do (and I assume that you may as well) I am very relieved that I never hired Nick, although I was certainly tempted by his very hunky pictures in ETC. Thanks for your efforts to alert our community to this scumbag. Anthony Holloway also sounds like a scumbag. I do not in any way want to defend his alleged actions, but he does sound like a pretty f*cked up teenager who is way in over his head. Something bad is motivating him. Who knows what. Drugs? Anger? Homophobia? Prostitution? He's a lazy assh*le looking for a quick and unearned buck? All of the above? None of the above? Again, I am not attempting to defend his conduct, but do you think that his alleged actions may reinforce my concern that teenage escorts (at least some) don't have the emotional maturity to deal with the decisions that they have made and should not be exploited by more mature adults?

[Guest AtlGAyDad]

Joey,

 

1) I did not say that my 18 yo daughter is not having sex, but I KNOW that she lacks the emotional maturity to be turning tricks for $$. And while I will admit that I hope she is not having any other sexual conduct, I know that I cannot control her actions.

2) I agree that young female prostitutes are more physically vulnerable than males, but I'm not sure that they do not share in emotional vulnerability. Maybe even a teenaged you.

3) You are verbose.

[BewareofNick]

AtlGayDad..

 

You are absolutely right..I do live in Atlanta. And thank you for your kind words where Nick is concerned.

 

However, I think you have the roles reversed where lil Anthony is concerned. Yes, I do agree that there is definitely SOMETHING wrong with the boy....My best guess is that he cannot deal with his attraction to men (in one of his phony reviews he called himself a bisexual jock), so he "gets back" at gay men by ripping them off. In this way, he can still have a little man to man contact and then punish the offending homosexual by stealing from him. He gets his jollies and it is very lucrative. Anthony is the one exploiting the more mature men (as you put it), using his youthful beuaty and large cock to tempt unwitting clients out of their money. To say that ALL young gay escorts are predators like Anthony is obviously not true, BUT they are doing what they do of their own free will.

 

What you need to do is find out what demon this is that is driving these feelings. I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with you being attracted to your daughter's boyfriends and boys her age in general. In other words, you see your daughter in these young men you hire and consequently, you put yourself in the role of THEIR parent. You know how you would feel if your daughter were turning tricks, so your subconscious is feeling guilty over having sex with young men the same age as your daughter. You are projecting those feelings onto the young escorts you hire.

 

You are correct, there ARE some young men who get into to this and have NO idea what they have gotten themselves into. However, some of them have become escorts to fund their schooling. Some have become escorts to help afford the high cost of living inside the Perimeter (that's I-285 to all you non-Atlantans). They do it because living where they do allows them to live among other gay people and they feel free to be themselves. Escorting pays the bills and allows them to get paid for doing something they like..being with other men.

 

If you get over the parental guilt you feel when being with these young men, you can look upon this with a different approach. Instead of feeling guilty, realize that you are helping some of these young men live a good life. You are helping some of them go through school where they can become productive members of society and GIVE UP ESCORTING!!!! Those that I have talked to have told me escorting is only a means to an end. When they finish school and get a decent job, the red light goes off.

[BewareofNick]

Wow..thank you so much Shadow. I am glad the humor comes through. I think that's really important. You've made me blush!