MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) On 1/6/2025 at 5:55 AM, PhileasFogg said: Be careful, you are crossing into the realm of libel. He is a public persona, with pictures and contact information, running a business and you are an anonymous acronym casting dispersion. Maybe there’s more to the story from his perspective or maybe there’s not. But the fact that you’re casting unsubstantiated dispersions with a clear intent of hurting his business puts this forum at risk and the privacy of the members at risk if Angus were to pursue you on this matter. If you had a bad experience, say you had a bad experience. But don’t call someone crazy. No, I’m not an attorney. But public figures deserve the benefit of the doubt in an anonymous forum where we participants can say anything we want with a false presumption of anonymity and an ability to harm them. In support of my position on this, I refer to to Guideline #3 on the forum rules. I just saw this message. He literally posted embarassing conversations publicly. I thought escorting was an industry of discretion. And i saw you removed your comment that was there after i said i had deleted my reviews. Edited January 7 by MCR
+ FrankR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 28 minutes ago, MCR said: I just saw this message. He literally posted embarassing conversations publicly. I thought escorting was an industry of discretion. And i saw you removed your comment that was there after i said i had deleted my reviews. The discretion goes both ways. You opened the door by posting, what now appears to be, misleading information. Can you blame him for defending himself vigorously? NJF, + Italiano, mike carey and 4 others 4 3
dutchal Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/6/2025 at 5:55 AM, PhileasFogg said: Be careful, you are crossing into the realm of libel. He is a public persona, with pictures and contact information, running a business and you are an anonymous acronym casting dispersion. Maybe there’s more to the story from his perspective or maybe there’s not. But the fact that you’re casting unsubstantiated dispersions with a clear intent of hurting his business puts this forum at risk and the privacy of the members at risk if Angus were to pursue you on this matter. If you had a bad experience, say you had a bad experience. But don’t call someone crazy. No, I’m not an attorney. But public figures deserve the benefit of the doubt in an anonymous forum where we participants can say anything we want with a false presumption of anonymity and an ability to harm them. In support of my position on this, I refer to to Guideline #3 on the forum rules. You mean aspersion(s). pubic_assistance 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 11 minutes ago, DanMaGuire said: For those who value privacy, you should be scared of this post. Your written messages with a provider, along with his text messages to and from other providers about you, can all end up in this forum if you “opened the door” by posting a negative review. I honestly believe like any business whether escorting, retail, sales, etc, negative reviews are fair game and shouldnt hurt the consumer. You're the one in business. I'm the one paying the money. Does he have a right to defend himself? Yes. Any business does. But the way negative reviews are handled in this industry and on rentmen is not right in my opinion. They can post 20 bad reviews on Mr Number (as he did and that has hurt my opportunities to meet providers) without meeting us but we cant review on Rentmen without actually meeting them talking about our bad experiences trying to book them. That's one reason this site is good. I am embarrassed that my private messages with a provider were so vigorously made public. All of those messages are from 2020 ending three years ago with me not making contact with him since. I am not the same person as he is not the same person. I have been bullied and abused since i was a child and have been in professional help since then. I have said some embarrassing things but I'm not a bad guy. I would never touch another person without their consent let alone physically harm them. My concious wouldn't be able to live with that. I would like this back and forth to end. I have said my peace. Angus has made himself clear that he fears me. Its not how i want it to be but that's how he wants it. pubic_assistance and + Italiano 2
Archangel Posted January 7 Posted January 7 It’s kind of rich of you to play the victim after we all read the conversation where you threatened him with police and deportation etc. Elliot, 1sight, NYXboy and 3 others 6
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Archangel said: It’s kind of rich of you to play the victim after we all read the conversation where you threatened him with police and deportation etc. That was in 2020. Has anything happened to that effect? Obviously not. I wouldnt call him a victim. He's getting by and gets what he wants regardless of my one bad review that i took down. Edited January 7 by MCR + Italiano and pubic_assistance 2
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, dutchal said: You mean aspersion(s). It goes both ways. He did post 20+ reviews on my Mr Number for months when i wasnt contacting him. pubic_assistance, + Italiano and Archangel 1 2
pubic_assistance Posted January 7 Posted January 7 49 minutes ago, MCR said: I have been bullied and abused since i was a child and have been in professional help since then. I have said some embarrassing things but I'm not a bad guy I think as part of your therapy, you should just admit you're in the wrong here and use it as a lesson in how to behave in the future. We all have a pretty good idea of what went down...so no need to try and spin it. Time to say sorry and move on. TJMS, + BenjaminNicholas, NJF and 3 others 3 1 2
Archangel Posted January 7 Posted January 7 In addition to playing the victim, now you’re trying to gaslight us into saying what we read wasn’t what we read. I don’t often agree with @pubic_assistance, but he’s right. Be an adult and own responsibility. TJMS, NJF, pubic_assistance and 1 other 3 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: I think as part of your therapy, you should just admit you're in the wrong here and use it as a lesson in how to behave in the future. We all have a pretty good idea of what went down...so no need to try and spin it. Time to say sorry and move on. I already apologized to him last night and publicly said i admit when I'm wrong. Km411 and pubic_assistance 1 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, MCR said: I already apologized to him last night and publicly said i admit when I'm wrong. 1 minute ago, Archangel said: In addition to playing the victim, now you’re trying to gaslight us into saying what we read wasn’t what we read. I don’t often agree with @pubic_assistance, but he’s right. Be an adult and own responsibility. Theres no gaslighting going on here. I'm embarrased for the things i said to him. I don't think there's a way for me to spin it. I just don't think he's a victim because clearly he has the power here and always has had the upper hand. I do talk to my therapist about this and am always open about my faults. You guys just don't know me so you see this as gaslighting. pubic_assistance 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 7 Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, MCR said: I already apologized to him last night and publicly said i admit when I'm wrong. Good luck with your ongoing therapy.
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Good luck with your ongoing therapy. I already left nyc months ago. I think he can feel safer that I'm not there. pubic_assistance 1
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, MCR said: I just saw this message. He literally posted embarassing conversations publicly. I thought escorting was an industry of discretion. And i saw you removed your comment that was there after i said i had deleted my reviews. Here’s a question for you: How did Angus find out about this thread? Seems to me like you played with the wind and reaped the whirlwind. You picked the fight thinking you’d harm him and now you claim victimhood. That absolutely is gaslighting. Edited January 7 by PhileasFogg pubic_assistance, deckard, TJMS and 1 other 2 2
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 46 minutes ago, MCR said: It goes both ways. He did post 20+ reviews on my Mr Number for months when i wasnt contacting him. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? That’s EXACTLY what Mr Number is for. To protect providers and clients from exactly this! pubic_assistance and TJMS 1 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said: Here’s a question for you: How did Angus find out about this thread? Seems to me like you played with the wind and reaped the whirlwind. You picked the fight thinking you’d harm him and now you claim victimhood. That absolutely is gaslighting. I did tell him about the thread but i am not playing victim. I'm talking about my experiences. Most escorts i talk to havent heard of this site. So how am i supposed to know he was on it. I didnt even give him a link to it. pubic_assistance and + Italiano 1 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? That’s EXACTLY what Mr Number is for. To protect providers and clients from exactly this! Providers AND clients? Clients dont use Mr Number and providers only use it to shit talk about clients they never met. All of the bad posts i have on Mr Number were from providers who never met me. AND providers don't even read the messages. They only see how many you have and assume they're all bad. Edited January 7 by MCR pubic_assistance 1
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, MCR said: I did tell him about the thread but i am not playing victim. I'm talking about my experiences. Most escorts i talk to havent heard of this site. So how am i supposed to know he was on it. I didnt even give him a link to it Honestly, I don’t believe you. But it doesn’t matter. I’m done engaging with you. I’m blocking you lest I get angry and say what I really think. i sincerely wish you the best. good night. NYXboy, pubic_assistance and TJMS 2 1
Archangel Posted January 7 Posted January 7 All of the bad posts you have? As in this isn’t the only incident…? 🤔 What seems to be the common denominator? I don’t even know that my number has ever been on Mr. Number, let alone on their multiple times… pubic_assistance 1
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, MCR said: Providers AND clients? Clients dont use Mr Number and providers only use it to shit talk about clients they never met. All of the bad posts i have on Mr Number were from providers who never met me. I use it. I learned of it here. It also blocks known spam calls. interesting that you say providerS, right?
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, PhileasFogg said: Honestly, I don’t believe you. But it doesn’t matter. I’m done engaging with you. I’m blocking you lest I get angry and say what I really think. i sincerely wish you the best. good night.
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Archangel said: All of the bad posts you have? As in this isn’t the only incident…? 🤔 What seems to be the common denominator? I don’t even know that my number has ever been on Mr. Number, let alone on their multiple times… I check mine regularly. Clean as a whistle. I guess that’s because I treat humans like I’d like to be treated. Archangel 1
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, PhileasFogg said: I use it. I learned of it here. It also blocks known spam calls. interesting that you say providerS, right? If the majority of clients dont use mr number, what's the point of using something to get word out if other clients dont use it that way? They won't even know to look it up like providers do.
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, MCR said: Maybe you can guess why my comment is gone. 🤐
MCR Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, PhileasFogg said: I check mine regularly. Clean as a whistle. I guess that’s because I treat humans like I’d like to be treated. I treated others the way i get treated when I'm treated badly as that's how i grew up being bullied and targeted. Edited January 7 by MCR
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