Face Off or On

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

True Bigguy..Juan is Definitely a "Sexual, No Face Shot Please.Goodlooking Guy, that has been said many times over.

 

Taking the Hunky Kevin under his Wings. among other places, was a stroke of Genius also! Another Cutie...

 

They both are Very Goodlooking Hunks!

 

IMHO...But there are the Other Guy's ,seemingly Popular on this site, who would Rate differently on Looks, depending on who is looking! I guess that's what makes us all different, when interested in spending time with a Guy. :7

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

Dear Jesse,

 

First of all, let me reassure you that in no way my intention was to belittle, discriminate or judge anyone's way of conducting their bussines. I think that the fascinating thing about our profession is that there are as many different ways to work in this as there are escorts.

 

We all know that the surest way to be wrong is to generalize, but making generalizations is sometimes needed to explain some things. Perhaps my point is not very clear in my post, but I have the impression that you misunderstood what I said. Let me be more clear.

 

I believe (and I wrote) that for an escort to be succesful he has to be "beautiful, physically fit, intelligent, sexually attractive and talented". The difference between the two types that I was talking about is that we -depending on what our goals and life conditions are, "choose to stress different sides of our product" in the way we advertise.

 

I also know that to be succesful both types of escorts MUST focus on the client's true pleasure and fulfillment.

 

I don't think the "Sexual celebrity" escort is out there only for fame and celebrity status. I know that this is a profession and we -all of us- are doing it to earn a livelihood and -hopefully fulfill a calling. However, I do not believe that wanting fame and celebrity status is wrong or silly or shamefull; believe me when I tell you that if I could do porn and show my face I would. Sounds so exciting and liberating! I have been fantasyzing with doing porn since I saw my first porn film, but due to my personal life's situation I will never be able to fulfill that fantasy.

 

I know as a fact that some escorts that fall closer to the "sexual celebrity" type are absolutely capable of the utmost discretion and confidentiality when it comes to protecting their client's privacy. You don't have to tell me that. All that I said in my post was that when a client doesn't want to be recognized with a porn star or a famous escort while being in public he might want to choose an escort whose face is not on the media, and who will only be recognized by former clients.

 

We tend to cater to different markets because of our different choices. As with sexual orientation we are never totally in one side or the other. We are a complicated and very personal combination that fall somewhere in the middle of both categories. I for example don't show my face and try to focus more on the long engagements and companionship calls, and yet I am constantly participating in this message centre getting a lot of exposure from it. Benjamin Nicholas on the other hand shows his face, does mostly long travel engagements and has all the possible exposure that one escort could dream of. It is never black and white. My post only had the intention of explaining my personal point of view about why some post their face and why others don't, and neither choice affects the escort negatively. There will always be a market for everyone.

 

You have been able to create a lively presence in this board in a relatively short time. You have received three glowing reviews by multiple reviewers and your reputation is growing for the better. It is always great to know that there are young, bright comitted escorts to keep the name of the profession very high. Our choices are different, but if we want to be succesful our goals and our attitude towards our clients might be very, very similar. And that's what makes this profession so fulfilling.

 

Keep up with the good work!

[Guest Jesse Dane]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

Thanks for the response Jaun. I shouldn't have responded so harshly in the first place. This thread caught me on a bad day. I see what you are saying much better now.

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

Hey man,

Glad that I was able to explain my point better.

Don't worry about it, we all have those kind of days. I hope that things for you, or whatever it is that caused you to not feel one hundred percent is much better now.

 

Receive a tight hug,

 

Juan

[Guest Dan]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

For some of us, yes, it's just a matter of discretion because we have full time jobs. Of course it is my fantasy that the way I find out that the hottie in the office down the hall is gay is when he asks me out to lunch and telle me he saw the ad "I had a feeling it was you. I've wanted you ever since the day I first saw you. Make a man out of me Dan!" And I look him in the eyes and lovingly say "In that case, you owe me $200 for going to lunch with you!"

 

As for my friends and other acquantances in the community found out, it would probably elevate me to god status!

 

 

Dan Dare

http://meetlocalmen.com/mlm/dandarela.html

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: Different types of escorts, for different types of needs...

 

Steven, thanks a lot.

 

I just checked my reviews link (even if you warned us a while ago), and made sure it works.

 

Thanks a lot, and receive my best wishes for continued success.

[Dbltrblescorts]

It was never a question whether to show my face or not and it's a good thing I did. I have a nice body but nothing to melt over. I'm not a muscle stud or some 0% body fat dude with a 12 pack. Of course for these guys that have the bangin body and dont show thier faces it does'nt mean they have some cute baby face hiding in the blackness you see above thier torso.

 

I share alot about myself with clients, there is no front here so why not show my face. I dont hide anything from the public because I am not going to be president and I dont have anything to hide from anyone who seeks the truth. I do however understand that some guys feel the need to be discreet for different reason's. I know a guy who has a girlfriend and a little boy and another one who has a good job that might look poorly on his alternate career choice. Whatever the reason I cant help but think that the lack of a face picture is somewhat of a deterrent for some clients and possibly an intrigue for others.

 

So for me it's been a good choice but it is awkward for me when someone points me out, mostly at public Gay events, and says " hey, thats Adrian". I was blown away the first time it happened. The fact that someone would actually remember my face and point it out in a crowd of a thousand horny fags. It's only happened a couple times but you realize once it does that you are out there and available to the world. Maybe that's what the faceless wonders are trying to avoid, who knows.

 

Yours, Adrian Hart

 

http://www.AdrianHart.com

[+ Lucky]

SInce you have one of the best-looking faces in the business, I am sure I am not the only one who is glad that you show it!

[+ Tygerscent]

RE: Public Tyger!

 

Well... this is an interesting question. Originally... I was monogamous male in a long term relationship. I have professional relationships with people in the medical field as well as on a corpoarate level. My partner and freind's also had unique relationships to me more likened to a "mainstream life". Imagine this... my ex-partner finds out I have had a change in career, I'm doing porn, his freinds see me in magazines, in movies, hear from other freinds, see me naked on calendars, on post cards, some freind of ours hires me for a session and we all meet at a party... one of our past mutual freinds hires me and passes the word along about what a great time he had... this gets back to str8t freinds at some party or back to family... the possibilities are endless.

Many of these things happened to me... the more visable you get the the more obvious you are. I do not hide the fact that I Escort or that I star in Adult Gay Porn. It's my career... I'm on post cards, calanders, movies shown in bath houses and bars. I'm up for an award and making more movies. I

m writing them now as well as main stream movies. BUT!!! Not everybody is in a possision to be so out. Not everone around those individuals are accepting of the Escort's sexuality. The Escort may be partnered, (as are many clients), married, have a girlfreind, have another professional career, be high profile... there are a number of reasons that Escorts may not want to show their faces. I was very reluctant to show my face on my ads or site but have become so high profile that it is impossible to attempt that sort of anonymity. In most states and airports I am approached by someone who has seen me in the "carnal" sense. Mainly movies and publications. I worried though... how would that affect my past partner who has a conservative, lower gay profile lifestyle? How will it be for me in my home town as people start to recognize me on the street and in public? How do I respond to woman I meet who have husbands who have hired me? What if, t different points in time do they both hire me and then we all happened to be at some common public event?! These things happen for real... sometimes the Escort is protecting himself and may also be protecting the people in his other professional life or the people around him. Not everybody is at the same level and thinking..."Oh... Your an Escort... How Cool"

Some geographical areas may pose a dilemma. Escorting has different levels of acceptability in different parts of the country.

My Ex, (who I was in a monogamous and long term relationship with... his parents lived upstairs and we lived downstairs...), recently found out I am in Gay Porn, Escorting and Erotic Modeling. He found out through a freind who had seen me in a magazine as well as a film showing at Portland Steam, (A local upscale bath house).

It took him three months to respond back to me and another two months to say that he was having difficulty dealing with all of it.

It's my Life but it's been realy hard on him. He has freinds and business associates who put him to the test regarding my decision to Escort and do Porn. Not fair... okay... I get that... but in reality... it happens anyway. Sometimes we are just protecting ourselves or the people in our personal lives we Love.

I provided facial pix to those clients that contacted me and were serious about getting together. I don't wory about it anymore because my Life and source of income is my complete image, toes, fingers, lips, mouth, dick, ass, abs, face... the Porn sort of creates the competative standard image wise. I re-define it with my character and that is what is hardest for those around me to understand. My clients "get it"... I'm an Escort but not a prostitute... (see origins of Male Geisha's). My movies and those I write, (especially), have a VERY different intent then the porn of the 90's... but it's a big price to pay to come out and do that and expect those around you to accept that open heartedly. Some clients need and even demand co nfidentiality. Sometimes the Escort needs that as well.

Tyger "Ty Hudson"\

http://www.tygerscent.biz

503.317.8055