What would you do...

[queeries]

You're with a client and he's a top.

After the sex, he pulls out and mutters "Oh shit, the condom broke."

 

As the bottom what would you do? Answers from clients or escorts greatly appreciated.

[+ deej]

First, I'd clean up the mess as usual. Then i'd clean out as usual.

 

Then I'd probably have a belt of good single-malt scotch. ;-)

 

And the next morning I'd visit my doctor for COMPETENT medical advice.

[guptasa1]

As a client, I can give my feedback on this.

 

Fortunately, this specific scenario has never happened to me. What has happened to me is someone removing his condom without my consent or knowledge for a short time, which is probably slightly more risky than if a condom broke, but I'm sure either is very scary. I've read a few things about condom breakage. One thing is that, even broken, they often do offer SOME protection. Of course there is still risk if it breaks, but you have the benefit of protection up until then, and only the broken area is exposed. It's also been indicated by experiences I've read about that USUALLY you can tell when it breaks (I think there's an audible pop and it can also be felt), but obviously I have no way to verify that.

 

Now, as to the actual question, I can only tell you how I personally would handle it.

 

I would stop the sex as soon as I found out (obviously) and try to stay calm and not lose my head, and I'd talk to my partner. I'd make it clear I wasn't upset at him at all (which should be obvious since it's not anybody's fault, but just in case) and ask him, assuring him that no matter the answer I won't be angry, if he has any STD's he's aware of. If he does have something (especially HIV), it's best to know right away, and he needs to feel safe telling a person (though it's still not guaranteed he knows or will share that). I'd also certainly share anything you as the client might have in this circumstance. Though the bottom is at significantly more risk than the top in this scenario, there's still a little risk.

 

I'd then politely ask if he'd be willing to go get tested with you. (Or at least test and send you the results.) If he is willing, great, and if not, I'm not sure what you could do to force him.

 

In any case, I would get tested ASAP for the basics and then test again at the necessary benchmarks. Many free clinics do this, and most STD's can be cured easily if found early. You should be able to detect most anything within 13 weeks, and most earlier.

 

If, for some reason, your partner says he is HIV+ or tests that way (within the first 72 hours of exposure), you may want to consider more drastic measures, like PEP (post-exposure methods to prevent HIV infection...not at all pleasant and very expensive). PEP is only given in pretty drastic situations since it often makes a person too sick to complete it, and I chose to forego it in my situation as I deemed my risk pretty low given it was an isolated incident with a partner who assured me he was negative.

 

Just my two cents. I am NOT a doctor nor an expert, so of course take my opinion with a grain of salt and some critical thinking, but I've read a lot and feel pretty comfortable with the above personally. I *think* this is what I'd do. (It's always difficult to predict one's actions in a tough situation.)

[guptasa1]

>First, I'd clean up the mess as usual. Then i'd clean out as

>usual.

>

>Then I'd probably have a belt of good single-malt scotch. ;-)

>

>And the next morning I'd visit my doctor for COMPETENT medical

>advice.

 

Also good advice. =o)

 

(And yes, I would have cleaned out also...verify there's no blood, etc.)

[Prime Muscle]

"What has happened to me is someone removing his condom without my consent or knowledge for a short time"

 

I'm not sure how common this is where the top removes the condom secretly but it's happened to me before as well. Luckily I caught it. I alsways do spot checks when I bottom to make sure the top still has on his condom. I disguise my checking my playing with his balls or some other erotic act but the real reason is to feel for the condom band. The one time I did catch the top fucking me raw -- I immediately pulled away, turned around and verified he was bare. He acted like it was no big deal and moved to put on another condom. I ended the appointment.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Karl Malden Answers

 

The hypothetical answer to the hypothetical question has already, essentially been offered. What no one has discussed, hypothetically or otherwise, the likelihood that the escort who was bottoming in this scenario would be either upset, angry or both and how would that be expressed to a client, if at all.

 

Frankly, I find it a bit unusual that someone who was the inserting party would have no knowledge that the condom had broken until he pulled out. However, not being one who wishes to cast aspirations even on a hypothetical client top, I can only imagine the client in this scenario was circumcized and thus most, if not all, of his feelings in his penis were gone and thus he could not feel a condom breaking or realized that he had not ejaculated into the resevoir tip of a latex sheath....

[+ Lucky]

RE: Franco Answers

 

"However, not being one who wishes to cast aspirations even on a hypothetical client top, I can only imagine the client in this scenario was circumcized and thus most, if not all, of his feelings in his penis were gone and thus he could not feel a condom breaking or realized that he had not ejaculated into the resevoir tip of a latex sheath...."

 

Besides being a delightful sentence,(or more of a partial-sentence, given the punctuation at its terminus) the above suggestion cannot possibly be true, could it? Circumcision removes all feelings (or even most) in the penis?

 

Incidentally, in the heat of the action could one who does have feelings in his penis reasonably not notice a break in the condom?

[+ deej]

RE: Franco Answers

 

>Incidentally, in the heat of the action could one who does

>have feelings in his penis reasonably not notice a break in

>the condom?

 

Ever had one break? I have. (Fortunately I wasn't in anyone at the time, just rolling the thing on.) I heard it more than felt it. I can completely see not noticing if it happened mid-fuck.

[noviceny]

RE: Franco Answers

 

Ive had condoms break a number of times in the past with women. I didnt feel shit and was shocked and sickened when I saw that the condom was busted.

[guptasa1]

RE: Franco Answers

 

Really? This is good information...but scary. Like I said, never had it happen, but I was comforted to read accounts where people noticed via either sound/feeling. Guess that isn't always the case.

[rickyricardo]

RE: Karl Malden Answers

 

>Frankly, I find it a bit unusual that someone who was the

>inserting party would have no knowledge that the condom had

>broken until he pulled out. However, not being one who wishes

>to cast aspirations even on a hypothetical client top, I can

>only imagine the client in this scenario was circumcized and

>thus most, if not all, of his feelings in his penis were gone

>and thus he could not feel a condom breaking or realized that

>he had not ejaculated into the resevoir tip of a latex

>sheath....

 

 

I aggree with Frank on this one.. I sorry when I am fucking someone there is a clear difference in feeling when your fucking and when the condom breaks while your doing it you feel it on your cock immediatly. I don't care how hard your pumping. You have somthing that is securly wrapped around your cock that gripping your skin on your cock once the condom burst the pressure is released an you feel right away.. Call me onsided on this one but when my condom breaks I feel it immediatly pull out.. an change for another one problery double wrap this time..

 

 

R.M.

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[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Partial To Lucky

 

>... but I was comforted to read accounts

>where people noticed via either sound/feeling. Guess that

>isn't always the case.

 

There are tears and there are breaks. On the few occassions when a condom was no longer one complete piece of latex, I felt the difference and was able to pull out, clean up and use a brand new condom.

 

Condoms do have a shelf life and not all condoms are alike. Some are made to withstand more pressure. It is not a difficult task to take the condoms you have on hand and fill one or two with water and see how much it can take before breaking; conversely, you can also slip one on a dildo or fruit or something comparable to test the condoms. I have particular brands that work well for me and I use them exclusively, to the point that I have turned down sex (both recreational and with clients) when I did not have any more or did not know where to find them. For some reason, Boston was a difficult town for me in this regard.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I prefer specifics...

 

Can you recommend the best brand of single-malt scotch for this particular occasion?

 

 

BN

[Guest Merlin]

RE: Karl Malden Answers

 

I would also suggest a vinegar douche. Acid is known to kill the HIV virus, and vinegar is a mild acid which will do no harm but just might prevent an infection. A citric juice, with citric acid would be an alternative. I am not a Doctor, so this is only a suggestion.

[Guest Merlin]

RE: Karl Malden Answers

 

No one has mentioned that the top should clean up good as well. It is particularly important if he is uncircumscized, since he has an increased risk of infection. Overall, the risk to the top is less than to the bottom, but there is a risk none the less.

[SAdler]

I have not read the actual answer to this question from ANYONE. There is actual treatment out there available. Its still not generally distributed but it has a very high rate of prophylactic success.

 

If this EVER happens, deal with it as a whole, finish your evening. You then go to your nearest testing center ASAP and tell them you have reason to believe you might have contracted something in the past 72 hours. Problem solved, better safe than sorry.

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: Karl Malden Answers

 

This is what makes Ricky the Professional that he is. I "personally" know he loves to TOP, BUT he is totally aware of everything going on also.We Luv him in Brooklyn..:+ :+ :+