What Should I say/not say?

[Scotsman]

I've never used an escort before...after emailing this one guy and getting a response...I called him on the phone. I was a little hesitant to talk about "sex" on the phone....so, my question is, what should I say or not say about my sexual expectations during our time together? This is not only an etiquette question, I also am wary of the long arm of the law. This is new to me.

Thanks. Scott

[marc anthony]

so, my

>question is, what should I say or not say about my sexual

>expectations during our time together? This is not only an

>etiquette question, I also am wary of the long arm of the law.

>This is new to me.

>Thanks. Scott

 

If I might give a client's perspective...

 

I think it depends.

 

If you are talking about a well established escort with multiple good reviews on this site, it is highly unlikely he is an undercover officer, and unless you have a hidden past that has caused your phone to be tapped, I don't think you need to worry much about what you say on the phone... LOL. There is some consideration for good taste, but all in all, I think most good escorts appreciate good communication about expectations.

 

If it is a relatively unknown escort, or someone you find in a chat room... then I think some prudent wordsmithing is indicated. You should say things like "I like to do such and such..." "What kinds of things do you like to do?" etc. But at the end of the day... if after all your conversations and interactions with someone, you are still concerned that you may be dealing with a sting... are you sure you want to proceed?

[woodlawn]

There is no magic formula for discussing with an escort the sex acts you are hiring him to perform while avoiding any possibility of liability for solicitation, and anyone who tells you otherwise simply doesn't know what he's talking about. The ideal situation is one in which an escort's ad provides such specific information about what he is willing to do that no discussion is necessary -- of course, not all escorts live up to the claims they make in their ads, but that is not as serious a problem as being arrested.

 

The bottom line is that you are taking certain risks when hiring an escort. If you are not willing to take them, don't do it.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

An Escort Answers

 

Surprisingly, Little Woody did not fixate on the fact that hiring an escort is ILLEGAL. I doubt he has gotten over his fixation and I continue to find it noteworthy that someone who feels as strongly as he clearly makes it known about his negative feelings to ALL escorts and the illegality of hiring an escort, would engage in this activity and post on a site where that is the primary reason for being. Of course, he probably has too much free time on his hands.

 

Marc Anthony gave you a much better response but my endearing comrade across the septic tank is quite correct when he said that in an ideal world, an escort would clearly state what he will or will not engage in. However, this depends on where the advertising is. Since you e-mailed the escort, one can assume you either saw him listed on an escort advertising web site, in a chat room, either on AOL, Yahoo or Gay.com or some such site, or someplace else where the escort might have listed his e-mail address. I am advertising in both the local Washington paper here while on my trip here and did so in two of the local gay publications in Toronto when I was there last week. I was carefully in the wording of the advertisement, simply because I do not want to open myself to any unnecessary problems. However, as an experienced escort, I do try to engage the client, either in e-mails or on the telephone, in discreet and sensitive communication on what the client wants, needs and expects.

 

Good communication is the key to any great encounter with an escort. Ultimately, you are likely better served to contact some escorts who have been previously reviewed or who have a sufficient number of ads listed to give you a better indication of what they will and will not do.

 

Finally, one thing to watch out for is a conversation where you discuss sex and money in the same sentence. When you contact the escort the first time, if his rate is not otherwise advertised, you may simply ask: would you be available on X date at X time and what would your rate be for X hour(s) of your service.

 

Once you have established that, you can then proceed to a telephone conversation where money is not an issue and where you can discuss, again discreetly and sensitively, your expectations.

 

The very best of luck!

[woodlawn]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

>Surprisingly, Little Woody did not fixate on the fact that

>hiring an escort is ILLEGAL. I doubt he has gotten over his

>fixation and I continue to find it noteworthy that someone who

>feels as strongly as he clearly makes it known about his

>negative feelings to ALL escorts and the illegality of hiring

>an escort, would engage in this activity and post on a site

>where that is the primary reason for being. Of course, he

>probably has too much free time on his hands.

 

Despite his usual fractured English, it's possible that someone may be able to figure out what Franco is trying to say above. In that unlikely event, I should respond.

 

Hiring someone to have sex with you is a crime almost everywhere in this country, much as Franco likes to pretend otherwise, and that undeniable fact cannot be altered by my feelings about it or the feelings of anyone else. The thread author clearly understands this and is concerned about the possibility that engaging in an explicit discussion of sex with someone who advertises as an escort may lead to his arrest for solicitation. That's a valid concern. Escorts like Franco who post here don't like to see it discussed in a serious manner because it might discourage some from hiring, but that's of no interest to me. My concern is to forestall posters who know nothing of the law from spreading misinformation that might get others into real trouble. I've seen more than one thread in which posters offered clients advice on avoiding arrest by using or avoiding certain language in speaking to escorts. About 99% of that advice is utter bullshit. The best advice anyone can give on the subject is something deej once said: If you're concerned about safety, you shouldn't be hiring. He's right.

 

Like advocates for the oil industry or the auto industry, advocates for the escort industry such as Franco love to accuse anyone who raises issues of concern to consumers of hating the industry or being hostile to everyone in the industry. He and his pals have done it often enough that anyone who's been reading this board for more than a few weeks should be able to see through it by now.

[+ deej]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

>utter bullshit. The best advice anyone can give on the

>subject is something deej once said: If you're concerned

>about safety, you shouldn't be hiring. He's right.

 

That tremor everyone felt was my jaw hitting the floor. :*

 

I've said it more than once.

 

If you're afraid you'll get caught doing something you hadn't oughtta be doing, then you hadn't oughtta be doing it.

 

It's just like safer sex decisions. The only truly safe sex is with yourself. Everything else is agreeing to a certain amount of risk.

 

It's all risk management and finding your personal comfort threshhold for risk. Once you decide how much you'll risk, you're all set. But there is ALWAYS risk, and anyone who thinks otherwise is flat-out wrong.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

And Now, A Word From The Escort Industry

 

>Hiring someone to have sex with you is a crime almost

>everywhere in this country, much as Franco likes to pretend

>otherwise, and that undeniable fact cannot be altered by my

>feelings about it or the feelings of anyone else.

 

Legal marriage between same sex couples is, as much as some might like to pretend otherwise, a crime is almost every part of this country.

 

Any other number of crimes are also on the books as local ordinances, state law, or federal statutues. Medical marijuana, for example, has been legalized in certain instances in some states, yet remains a federal crime throughout the nation.

 

I have never, as much as Little Woody would like to pretend otherwise, stated that hiring for sex is without consequences, legal or otherwise. What I have frequently commented on is that certain jurisdictions can and do enforce the laws on the books in different ways. What I, and others on this site, have constantly pointed out, is that hiring escorts is legal in (and I only state this word since I have neither the time nor patience to research it at this precise moment) "nearly" every part of this country and worldwide. This is why and this is how escorting is a clearly listed category in many mainstream daily newspapers and is also a clearly listed category in many yellow pages in many cities throughout the countries of this nation.

 

>The thread

>author clearly understands this and is concerned about the

>possibility that engaging in an explicit discussion of sex

>with someone who advertises as an escort may lead to his

>arrest for solicitation. That's a valid concern. Escorts

>like Franco who post here don't like to see it discussed in a

>serious manner because it might discourage some from hiring,

>but that's of no interest to me.

 

I am glad to see that Little Woody has can discern both state of mind and motives from language. Perhaps when I am able to improve my syntax and language skills, I will be able to do this as well. However, I read the post as a question from potential client to escorts as to what advise that might provide for how to initiate that ever problematic initial conversation with an escort and my response, as many of my responses often are, was simply directed to that end as the only escort who has thus far responded to this thread.

 

While it may surprise my concerned friend Little Woody, there is no national escort union hall, where we sit around smoking French (pardon me, freedom) cigarettes and buffing their nails. We do not.

 

I do not believe any client has ever hired me on the basis of my posts. In fact, I am certain that some clients who might have hired me have may have chosen not to, based on either my directness, tone or attitude. Unlike many other escorts here, I have never chosen to view this as a means of promoting myself. I do take advantage of the opportunity to promote which this site affords me, such as the Escort Travels forum, but I do not take every post as an opportunity to direct traffic to a web site or otherwise sell my wares as some might.

 

I also do not believe that anything I state or, much as Little Woody would like to pretend otherwise, he or others state, will have much impact in whether or not someone does hire. What I often like to address, from an escort perspective, is the how, when, where, et al., of these relationships.

 

>My concern is to forestall

>posters who know nothing of the law from spreading

>misinformation that might get others into real trouble. I've

>seen more than one thread in which posters offered clients

>advice on avoiding arrest by using or avoiding certain

>language in speaking to escorts. About 99% of that advice is

>utter bullshit. The best advice anyone can give on the

>subject is something deej once said: If you're concerned

>about safety, you shouldn't be hiring. He's right.

 

My concerned friend, in his attempts to impute a dig at me, seems to suggest that I am one of these posters, when in fact, I would suggest to anyone, escort or clients alike, to avail themselves of the information on this and other sites (and numerous other sources), which will include frequent comments from members of this community who do have a law degree (although none to my recollection have ever stated that they had a criminal law background) and discussed how often and in what ways, the authorities have still arrested more frequently sex workers and often the clients who hire them, for any number of crimes, in spite of any attempts at disclaimers, "magic words" or other such acts. Until the laws are changed, there are no magic words which one can state. One can simply minimize risk.

 

For example, I sit here in this nation's capital, after my fourth trip here as a working escort, who crossed state lines, who advertised in print, on line and via e-mail, that I was escorting in Washington, D.C., who traveled to both hotels and homes in Virginia, Maryland and within the District, thus far without facing any legal harm. Just as individuals will continue to engage in same sex marriage or cultivate and smoke marijuana for medicinal purposes, I both recognize and am aware of any risks that I take, attempt to minimize or forstall them, but will continue to provide what I believe is an important and necessary service.

 

>Like advocates for the oil industry or the auto industry,

>advocates for the escort industry such as Franco love to

>accuse anyone who raises issues of concern to consumers of

>hating the industry or being hostile to everyone in the

>industry. He and his pals have done it often enough that

>anyone who's been reading this board for more than a few weeks

>should be able to see through it by now.

 

Again, there is no monolith. I post to the extent that a thread or question interests me or I feel I may have something to ad. I take a certain measure of pride, as I travel throughout this country, that while a number of clients have clearly stated that I am not their type, they still enjoy my posts and admire my comments. I also take a measure of comfort, as I envision myself in that orange jump suit Little Woody might wish for me and others (that hopefully Martha Stewart will soon redesign into a more tastefull and attractive cut), that many of these clients have wanted to and in fact have met me because they found me either provocative, interesting or (hopefully) insightfull). I am certain like that great silent majority who send private messages to Donnie telling him they believe in him, that Little Woody must have at least one fan, I have yet to see any other client tell him they would like to meet him to shake his hand.

 

All anyone has to do is spend one hour search for and reading Little Woody's posts to see that he hates escorts. He hates hustlers. He hates prostitutes. He hates paying for sex. He hates it that people get paid for sex. Why he posts on this site, beyond that fact that some continue to take his bait, is beyond me and a good questions for a competent pscyhotherapist, but I have a train to catch to National Airport and a plane to take me home to my own bed after two weeks on the road.

 

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[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

>It's just like safer sex decisions. The only truly safe sex is

>with yourself.

 

Which one? Could you be more specific? Or would you rather be less vague? Or is a subcontractor who has everyone's credit card info nice and SECURE in Pakistan being just a little too paranoid that gay people in Massachusetts might get Mary?

[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

JESUS!!! For the 9,003,569,982,765,981.12764th time, Holly, wait until AFTER you've taken my six inch cock out of your mouth before you start babbling and pretending anyone gives a flying, fucking asshole of a rat who's only had 34,567 enemas in the last split second!!!!!

 

Next time, I might not make my request in such a pleasant and genteel manner.

 

Oh, dear!

 

By the way, I might arrive fashionably late for our "appointment" in "court." Which would be VERY cutting edge of me. As usual.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: And Now, A Word From The Escort Industry

 

Could I borrow some of that crystal meth you HAVEN'T been smoking? This cracked crack pipe I bought from a retired crackhead will do nicely, or American Express, thank you.

 

Now THAT's what I call a HOT public!

[woodlawn]

RE: And Now, A Word From The Escort Industry

 

>Legal marriage between same sex couples is, as much as some

>might like to pretend otherwise, a crime is almost every part

>of this country.

 

No, it isn't. That's what you get for using reruns of 'Law and Order' as your primary source of legal information.

 

Same-sex couples who are married by clergy are not committing a crime. Rather, their ceremony is simply a legal nullity. A public official who performs such a ceremony MAY be committing a crime, depending on the relevant statute in his state.

 

>I have never, as much as Little Woody would like to pretend

>otherwise, stated that hiring for sex is without

>consequences, legal or otherwise.

 

Nope. You just keep pretending that there is some difference between what you do and prostitution. Goodness knows why.

 

 

> What I have

>frequently commented on is that certain jurisdictions can and

>do enforce the laws on the books in different ways.

 

But you have no idea what those differences are and no idea how to find out, so your frequent comment isn't of much use to anyone here.

 

> What I,

>and others on this site, have constantly pointed out, is that

>hiring escorts is legal in . . .

 

But what does that have to do with you and your fellow prostitutes?

 

> Escorts

>>like Franco who post here don't like to see it discussed in

>a

>>serious manner because it might discourage some from hiring,

>>but that's of no interest to me.

 

>I am glad to see that Little Woody

 

Here we go again with the "little" language from someone who keeps asking the sales clerk in the men's underwear department at Walmart whether they have briefs in size 'XXS'.

 

 

> Until the laws are changed,

>there are no magic words which one can state. One can simply

>minimize risk.

 

I knew that if I waited long enough you would finally say something that makes sense. It's like the old story about finding that chimpanzees will type the complete works of Shakespeare if you just give them enough time and paper.

 

>>Like advocates for the oil industry or the auto industry,

>>advocates for the escort industry such as Franco love to

>>accuse anyone who raises issues of concern to consumers of

>>hating the industry or being hostile to everyone in the

>>industry. He and his pals have done it often enough that

>>anyone who's been reading this board for more than a few

>weeks

>>should be able to see through it by now.

 

>Again, there is no monolith.

 

Nope. The fact that you and the few other escorts who post here regularly use the same smears and lies as lobbyists for other industries use against anyone who raises issues of concern to consumers is just one of life's odd coincidences.

 

 

> I have yet to see any other client tell him

>they would like to meet him to shake his hand.

 

You must have missed that thread -- no, come to think of it you didn't miss it, you posted in it yourself. Why lie about it?

 

 

>All anyone has to do is spend one hour search for and reading

>Little Woody's posts to see that he hates escorts.

 

Here we go again with the same tactic all industry lobbyists use. People who raise issues about automobile safety hate cars. People who criticize Big Oil for destroying the environment want to go back to the Stone Age and live without electricity. And anyone who raises issues about the safety or honesty of escorts "hates escorts."

 

All anyone has to do is spend fifteen minutes reading the posts Franco creates whenever a client starts a thread here complaining about the disparity between escort prices and escort quality. The fact that he immediately jumps in with a plethora of reasons why clients should give escorts more money shows what his motivation is, all of that nonsense about clients wanting to shake his hand notwithstanding.

 

 

> that fact that some continue to take his bait, is

>beyond me and a good questions for a competent

>pscyhotherapist,

 

Since you respond to my posts as much as anyone here, ask your own therapist about it. Then ask him what it is that makes you spend hour after hour haranguing people on this message board, while at the same time you accuse other frequent posters of having "too much free time." If he can come up with a logical explanation for that he must be a genius.

[woodlawn]

RE: Cracking under the Strain

 

>JESUS!!! For the 9,003,569,982,765,981.12764th time, Holly,

>wait until AFTER you've taken my six inch cock out of your

>mouth before you start babbling and pretending anyone gives a

>flying, fucking asshole of a rat who's only had 34,567 enemas

>in the last split second!!!!!

 

I've often wondered who would be the first member of our little group to crack up.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: Cracking under the Strain

 

>I've often wondered who would be the first member of our

>little group to crack up.

 

Pity about poor Mr. Fierstein, isn't it, spendy? She was such a MARVELOUS, Tony-award winning...epidemiologist, weren't you?

 

Now if I could only find where I misplaced your oh-so-useful law degree... Where's Dick Cheney when you "need" her?

[Tristan Waters]

>I've never used an escort before...after emailing this one

>guy and getting a response...I called him on the phone. I was

>a little hesitant to talk about "sex" on the phone....so, my

>question is, what should I say or not say about my sexual

>expectations during our time together? This is not only an

>etiquette question, I also am wary of the long arm of the law.

>This is new to me.

>Thanks. Scott

 

The main thing that you shoud never do is to mention sex and money in thre sameconversation. Remember you are paying for time only. Never ask "What will you do for x amount of dollars" and "does this include x" Follow those simple guidelines and that should keep you pretty safe...

 

[email protected]

 

http://www.floridahotguy.com

http://www.tristanwaters.com

 

850-251-4010

[pierrot]

The original question is a good one that should be addressed, and has been on this forum but it usually descends into the same mudfight. While it is undoubtedly true that hiring an escort is illegal, it is also clear that it is thriving in many areas and is, apparently, rarely prosecuted. So I don't think it's helpful merely to say that "if you're concerned about it, you shouldn't do it." Clearly the poster does plan to do it, and is asking what are the best ways to avoid being entrapped (beyond the obvious of not hiring).

The initial answer was helpful. It seems reasonable to assume that an escort who has often been reviewed and who has been advertising and working as an escort for some time, is not in cahoots with the police. I've hired a number of times over the last couple of years, using well- and frequently-reviewed escorts and it's worked out. There are no guarantees of course. But then the reasons for hiring an escort may outweigh the risk.

What I'd like to know is if discussions by e-mail are more or less risky, in terms of possible legal consequences, than a phone conversation.

This forum is useful in finding out when there are stings. Since I've been watching it, I've only seen info about a sting in Columbus, Ohio.

Woodlawn's warnings are well taken, but beyond that not very enlightening. We know it's illegal, and we could be prosecuted. The question is how to avoid the stings, and what to look for, what not to say, where and how, etc. That info from a legal expert would give us a more complete basis to make our decisions.

[Guest rohale]

>I've never used an escort before...after emailing this one

>guy and getting a response...I called him on the phone. I was

>a little hesitant to talk about "sex" on the phone

 

 

This is a very good question. When I first started thinking about hiring and seeing escorts. My first concern was the hand of the law and the consequences of being caught. Other thoughts also entered my mind, spending time in jail and having my life turned upside down. It may sound redundant to some but for me having these thoughts only felt natural Then I realised that the chances of something like this happening are at slim to none.

 

The part about talking about sex on the phone, I have to say I concur with Tristian on this. It doesn't feel right and it can make the converstion somewhat unpleasant. These types of questions are at best left when the escort and the client meet and have a little time to adjust to eachother and the surroundings that both chose to meet in. It's just my opinion.

 

I too found myself unsure of what to say when I first started contacting escorts. I realised that I just have to be myself and be honest and forthright. Sometimes having a little humor can uplift the level of unease that a person could be feeling. As time goes be with each and every escort you talk to you, eventually everything will feel like second nature. In a few months you won't even remember the types of anxieties that you must be feeling right now. Just hang in there and once you start getting adjusted, you'll feel more comfy and have a lot more self confidence when talking to escorts.

 

Rohale

[nate_sf]

I think the legal and sting issues have been well answered here and provide some good guidelines for minimizing risk from that regard. But what I'd like to add is that an escort appointment/date/encounter/what-have-you is different than a conventional date, so you can be more direct in expressing what you want than the more conventional dating "etiquette" that you may be used to. One of the benefits of hiring an escort is that the time together is on your terms, and is about what you want, so you should feel free to express what you'd like directly. If the escort is not interested or compatible with what you like, better to find out sooner than later. Use your instinct on this too... if the escort sounds awkward or unconvincing in response to what you want, at least for the sake of chemistry you may want to keep looking.

 

Personally, I appreciate when someone tells me what they like beforehand so that there is not so much guesswork and we can focus more on just having a good time. It may feel strange to be so direct about sexual things that you're not used to talking about since many people aren't used to expressing themselves this way, but this is the opportunity to step out a bit and give it a try. If it feels to uncomfortable to talk about it on the phone, it may be easier to discuss it through e-mail (again, after the due dilligence suggested in the other posts here).

 

Hope that all helps. Good luck!

[woodlawn]

>What I'd like to know is if discussions by e-mail are more or

>less risky, in terms of possible legal consequences, than a

>phone conversation.

 

Email discussions are not more risky. Phone conversations, if recorded, create a record of what is said. So do emails.

 

 

>Woodlawn's warnings are well taken, but beyond that not very

>enlightening. We know it's illegal, and we could be

>prosecuted. The question is how to avoid the stings, and what

>to look for, what not to say, where and how, etc. That info

>from a legal expert would give us a more complete basis to

>make our decisions.

 

The point I keep trying to make, and which you apparently do not want to accept, is that there is no way "to avoid the stings." There are no magic words you can say or avoid saying that will prevent you from being arrested. Avoiding the mention of money or of sex might work if you are soliciting someone on a streetcorner, but if you are responding to an ad or review there is already a certain quantum of evidence that shows what you intend to do and you can't make that go away by what you say to the other party. Asking the other party if he's a cop, another idea people keep bringing up, is pointless. Saying "I'm paying you for time only" is also pointless; if you hire someone who has ads or reviews that clearly show he hires himself out for sex, no one is going to believe the "time only" crap. In any case, these and other elaborate strategems people keep recommending can be used as defenses at trial -- but these cases never go to trial because if you are arrested you will be offered the opportunity to plead out, and only a crazy person would refuse such an offer and insist on being tried for soliciting a prostitute. If you don't find this "enlightening," it's because you want an answer that is comforting but quite untrue. Others may be willing to give you such an answer, but not me.

 

With regard to whether soliciting is "rarely prosecuted," I know of no figures to substantiate that. If anyone has such figures, let's see them. In dozens of such discussions on this board no one has ever produced any that I know of. The fact that the offense is often committed hardly proves it is rarely prosecuted -- one could say the same about homicide and many other crimes, after all. I'm afraid you will simply have to get used to the fact that you are taking a risk that is very difficult to quantify and impossible to avoid -- unless you just don't do the crime.

[+ deej]

>With regard to whether soliciting is "rarely prosecuted," I

>know of no figures to substantiate that. If anyone has such

>figures, let's see them. In dozens of such discussions on

>this board no one has ever produced any that I know of. The

>fact that the offense is often committed hardly proves it is

>rarely prosecuted -- one could say the same about homicide and

>many other crimes, after all. I'm afraid you will simply have

>to get used to the fact that you are taking a risk that is

>very difficult to quantify and impossible to avoid -- unless

>you just don't do the crime.

 

I agree with much of your message, but you keep harping on "no statistics" to back up the low rate of prosecution.

 

Nobody can produce statistics because there aren't any, for OR against. You can do a search/replace in any word processing document but you can't search/replace for what isn't there to begin with.

 

Getting any credible statistics would be impossible. We'd have to start from a baseline of all prostitution activities and you know as well as I do that this is an impossible starting point.

 

The statistics you want simply won't ever exist.

 

We could start from arrest reports in the newspaper but I know damn good and well even YOU don't think that represents the lion's share (or even a small share) of prostitution activities going on in any major city on any given evening.

 

Asking for statistics that don't exist is just baiting, and basing your statements on those nonexistent stats is false posturing.

 

The emperor needs new clothes. :*

[woodlawn]

>Nobody can produce statistics because there aren't any, for OR

>against.

 

>Getting any credible statistics would be impossible. We'd have

>to start from a baseline of all prostitution activities and

>you know as well as I do that this is an impossible starting

>point.

>

>The statistics you want simply won't ever exist.

 

I disagree. I don't claim to have read all or even most of the literature social scientists of various kinds have produced on prostitution -- have you? -- and I'm not going to do so just so that I can talk about it on this message board. For all I know, there could be figures of the kind we're discussing out there -- but I've never seen them and I've never encountered anyone who has.

 

I don't agree that it's impossible to create the baseline you refer to for a given community. It would simply take a huge amount of work and a great deal of time. For all I know, it's already been done somewhere at some time. But I haven't heard about it if it has.

 

 

>We could start from arrest reports in the newspaper but I know

>damn good and well even YOU don't think that represents the

>lion's share (or even a small share) of prostitution

>activities going on in any major city on any given evening.

 

Of course it doesn't. One would have to combine a vast number of interviews with people in law enforcement, social work, journalism and prostitution itself in order to come up with a reliable picture of the extent of prostitution in a given city. It's not impossible, just very difficult.

 

 

>Asking for statistics that don't exist is just baiting, and

>basing your statements on those nonexistent stats is false

>posturing.

 

Oh, knock it off. You know very well my comment was posted in response to the remark that the fact prostitution seems to be "thriving" shows that it is rarely prosecuted. You disagree with that comment as much as I do, but instead of telling the person who made it what you think, you yell at me. Grow up.

[Juan Vancouver]

May God bless Canada!

 

Hey Scotsman!

Man, you have received so many information after posing a very simple question. I just want to add something.

I have several clients that come to Canada with the only purpose of hiring, for one simple reason:

Escorting is a totally legal licensed profesion here. No cops trying to bust your ass for hiring nor for escorting, no undercover stuff, no paranoia, no fuzz.

However, sex for money is an illegal transaction too. So, you are totally allowed to hire a hot guy for one whole day, and get fucked silly non-stop, as long as you didnt pay him for that, but for his time. He can even give you a receipt!

As many people have said before, the only way to make sure that you end fulfilled with an everlasting smile on your face is to communicate exactly what is it that you need, and fantasyze about, and asking wether the escort "enjoys" such activities.

Personally, the more I know about my clients, the more I hear about their turn ons, their fantasies, their hidden wishes, the more accurately I will be able to creat an unforgettable experience for them. If an escort pretends to be "shy" while discussing stuff, my guess is that he is just choosing being non-comital with you, and in the moment of truth he will be able to say: "I never said I would do that"

Demand clarity, be polite, and make sure that both of you feel comfortable with what you request.... and you will have a great experience ensured!

Dont incurr in any inecessary risk and have lots of fun!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: May God bless Canada!

 

God already has!... I'm hear to say. }(

 

I've seen living proof just this weekend. It came in blond and brunette, tall and not so tall, buff and not so buff, English and French with some Asian and Black for good measure. It is blessed in the East and in the West as I have discovered. I'm sure the middle provinces are blessed as well. I now know what the mean when they sing 'Oh Canada' :9

 

And 'The States' have been blessed too in many ways, not the least of which is placing Canada right next door. ;-)

[marc anthony]

RE: May God bless Canada!

 

>God already has!... I'm hear to say. }(

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Oh, stop gloating!