Deep-Throating Advice (Update to Old Post)

[guptasa1]

Hey all,

 

I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who gave advice on learning how to deep-throat! I got to read it all (including the recent post about mindset; got to read and was replying shortly before the MC died). Anyways...

 

With all the advice and such, I DID IT (and without any cheats like chloraseptic spray - lol)! LOL. Okay, only with dildos so far, but all the advice seems to work. The first time was rough, but it appears to get easier and easier, and once I realized that once I get PAST the gag reflex, it goes away (except when going back up off the cock), it really isn't that hard. I've even tried some bigger dildos and can take those. =o)

 

Now, (and not to be gross but accurate) I still do gag occasionally and a FEW times practicing I spit up a little (NOT throw up; this is much thinner and mostly just saliva unless I've eaten super recently), but each time appears to be easier. I need to work on coming back up and breathing while down most. I also skipped a day practicing and I don't think it made any difference - it seems I've learned this and I'm not going to "forget" how. I still have a ways to go controlling it so I never gag or spit up, but I'm really happy I got this far, and I'm looking forward to trying to deep throat a real dick soon. =oP

 

Thanks again folks, and more discussions, etc. are of course more than welcome.

[Rick Munroe]

Congratulations! And yes, the real fun will begin when you trade in the latex (or whatever dildos are made of) for the real tasty thing.

[jack]

Would somebody post a synopsis of the deep throat dialogue. I really feel left out and would realy really really appreciate some of the guidlines advanced. Please....... thanks. :-)

[guptasa1]

Absolutely! I started the initial post because I couldn't deep throat (way too much gagging) and really wanted to learn how. It's really a shame the posts got wiped out as there was a TON of good advice given. I'll recount here what I remember briefly and what helped me. It won't be verbatim but my interpretation instead, so please understand that, but hopefully it'll still be of value. I can't remember who gave what advice exactly and all of that, but a lot of these ideas come from others and I'm simply reposting here. =o)

 

1. Mind over matter is very important. I think maybe this was the advice that helped me the most. It's fear of dying and such that makes your body react badly to a foreign object down your throat. Practice and make sure you WANT that cock (or dildo or whatever you're practicing on) down your throat and let it turn you on and be your desire. Also, try to relax and know that you're safe and can't really choke or die doing this - you have plenty of time and just need to convince your body the gag/vomit reflex is unnecessary when you want to swallow cock. Wanting that cock, relaxing, and opening your throat will let you learn.

 

2. Practice, practice, practice. They say practice makes perfect, so doing this (on a dildo or with a partner) will make it easier over time. I've found just a few minutes of practice daily does indeed seem to help. I still have a ways to go - learning how to breathe through the nose and around the cock without effort and learning how to not gag or spit up at all when going down or coming up.

 

3. Angle can help. I'm finding I can deep throat in most positions, but an angle with a straight shot down the throat (for example, lying on ones back with their head thrown back over the edge of the bed) really helps some people.

 

4. This one's from me and my experience. Once you deepthroat ONE TIME, at least for me, it's about 100X easier from then on. I don't even know why, but once I forced it down my throat once, I could do it again without a problem. That first time was a bitch, but it's MUCH easier now.

 

5. It's a good idea, especially at first, not to eat close to practicing this and to have an empty stomach. You probably WILL gag some and even spit up a little, and if you don't eat close to doing this, I find it's mostly saliva, so you don't have to worry as much about it. You might also involuntarily cry a little or even have a runny nose when learning this, but those have greatly been reduced with practice.

 

6. There were some really hot stories where some people have had a lot of success learning with an aggressive partner who forced his cock down their throat and MADE them learn. As a submissive person, this really appeals to me and I even had my own experience with it (a forceful partner), though I didn't have success at that time. I think I'll have much more success next time. =o)

 

7. I've read and even considered trying myself using something like Chloraseptic spray to numb the throat and deaden the gag reflex temporarily. Some people apparently have had success with this. I was going to try it, but due to my recent success, am no longer planning to - I think I can do well enough now without it. =o) Still, for someone where nothing else works, it might be worth a shot.

 

I'm SURE I missed some helpful posts and tips that probably helped me but I just can't consciously think of at the moment. I'll add them if I think of any more, and hope this is what you're looking for.

[Rick Munroe]

>1. Mind over matter is very important. I think maybe this

>was the advice that helped me the most.

 

That great advice came from Juan of Vancouver. I had never thought of it the way he put it: reminding yourself that you have a whole 5 minutes of suffocation before you will die. I've always said, "Just go with the gag," but Juan put it in a much more scientific and useful way; it's a shame his post is gone because it was really well-done (which is rare) (groan).

 

>2. Practice, practice, practice.

 

I'm all for that. And once you master the art of jerking a cock with your throat muscles, it is very important to keep practicing. On different cocks. Just so you will be prepared for any situation. :9

 

>3. ...an angle with a straight shot down the throat

>(for example, lying on ones back with their head thrown back

>over the edge of the bed) really helps some people.

 

That's a really good angle if the guy's cock curves upward. Personally, I prefer to attack it from above, while the guy lies back on the bed, so I can sit on his face at the same time. }(

 

>6. There were some really hot stories where some people have

>had a lot of success learning with an aggressive partner who

>forced his cock down their throat and MADE them learn.

 

I'll take credit for one of those stories. ;-) That's how I learned from my boyfriend Derek when we were still teenagers and each other's first sex partners; then, as now, he loved to have all of his 8" jammed down a throat, and after the first time I threw up all over him (which he actually found hot at the time, but I didn't), I quickly learned how to service him the way he expected, and I haven't looked back since. A few years ago, we opened up our formerly 100% monogamous relationship and it's been a fun challenge to see if I can take any shape or size deeply.

[Juan Vancouver]

but....

 

Why is my post gone?

 

I am writing a book on funny sex advise and I was ready to copy my post from this board...

 

Now it is precious wisdom lost forever!

 

Deepthroaters of the world to come... you are on your own!

[guptasa1]

Thanks for clarifying who said who. I knew some of that but wasn't completely sure and didn't want to post wrong.

 

>Why is my post gone?

 

As to this question, the server crashed and all the posts after the 11th or so were lost unfortunately.

[jack]

Two clarifications: 1) Is that best position with a partner's head "over the bed" the same position as in a sixty nine which, to me at least, seems easier to slip in a longer curved shaped shaft than any other way. (I just don't picture the "over the bed" position).

 

2) Could anybody enhance the conversation about breathing and how proper breathing control helps to make complete deep throating easier, more sustained, and successful for everybody invovled.

 

Thanks to eveybody for your help and input. I do have an excellent attitude about this issue, love to do it, and love to have my partner (date) enjoy having me do it. (Actually, and don't yell at me, I love, just love to suck on and suck off a spent cock. Sooo nice. Especially, Taboo farmed cock) Later. ;-)

[Rick Munroe]

>Especially, Taboo farmed cock

 

Is that anything like free-range chicken? (But seriously, what is Taboo farmed cock?)

[guptasa1]

>Two clarifications: 1) Is that best position with a partner's

>head "over the bed" the same position as in a sixty nine

>which, to me at least, seems easier to slip in a longer curved

>shaped shaft than any other way. (I just don't picture the

>"over the bed" position).

 

I'm not sure the answer to this one. I think maybe with positioning people are all different. I've found for me, positioning doesn't matter all that much. The lying back with head over the edge of the bed idea really didn't appeal to me, nor did it work for ME when I tried it - others have had success. (This was before I successfully deep-throated anything). I personally like to suck cock on my knees or in a 69 position or whatever feels sexy at the time, but I've found for me, position isn't the deciding factor - I think I can probably manage in most positions at this point.

 

>2) Could anybody enhance the conversation about breathing and

>how proper breathing control helps to make complete deep

>throating easier, more sustained, and successful for everybody

>invovled.

 

I'm no expert here - this is the area I still need to work on. I find when I initially swallow a cock, I have to consciously figure out how to breathe around it. For some reason, my body can't yet seem to remember how and I have to keep trying until I eventually have a breakthrough and start breathing through my nose. Usually that takes a few seconds for me. It might be getting a little easier.

 

I also think breathing has something to do with how well you do going down and coming back up. For example, I've read multiple times for some people, breathing a certain way (either exhaling or inhaling) while going down or coming up really helps people deal with swallowing without gagging. It seems it differs depending on the person which works best.

 

Personally, I think this DOES have an effect for me, but it's difficult since my initial reaction is to stop breathing when I go down or come up. It does seem to make things easier if I can force things the right direction (and I'm not yet sure if that's inhaling or exhaling...in the moment, it's easy to forget), but it does take effort. I'm hoping my body learns how to breathe if I practice more.

[Luv2play]

Would those be the cocks "raised" on the Taboo "farm" in Montreal (aka stripper club in Montreal known for its twinkish strippers)? Or am I at sea here???

[jack]

Rick and Luv2Play.

 

Rick, I read your question yesterday "What is Taboo farmed cock". Your question was surprisingly perplexing to me. I was happy that you asked me while I struggled for a response in the sense that, I've thought something about Poetic License, though I don't rate that, perhaps, its applicable here. I thought, well, what were your first thoughts when you read it -- positive, negative, what came into your mind: Taboo farmed cock.

 

Above all I respect you, your question, knowing we have some mutual thoughts about the place called Taboo. What a nice subject to ponder over. You deserve an answer, or, if not that, an explanation, if possible.

 

I would not have said same thing about Campus or Stock or Adonis which helps zero in on why it came up with Taboo. Then too (and this is a late thought, a long shot as it were, that there are a lot of farms, Farm Clubs, as in baseball, and I am as qualified to earn points for thinking along those lines as I am in getting a Poetic license. Trust me.

 

Having said that, back to Taboo. Walking in the door. The scene is, let's say, predictable in the sense that we go there because we know we will like being there, we will feel all over ouselves a certain comfort, a certain happiness, a certain anticipation, a certain expectation, as certain "I'm home in the universe" here. Why? Because there is stability in what the place is to us. Soooo, starting with wanting to go to, and walking in the place, feeling the first host, thrust of ambience, is (hopefully) in the same manner of visiting a farm where, what do we expect, the witness of life, beginning life, the hope of young life, the innocents of young life, the happiness of young life, the predicatable sign of young, slendor, hung, full of cum, from around stunning young melon sized butt and curious rosebuds . . . . all while hearing the music, the lights, the naked kid on stage, so natural, with some people not paying attention, at the bar, talking, talking together, the touching, the feeling together, walk together to the back.

 

But, Rick, that's not all of it in that farm metaphor. I have to confess, it includes being back at my room at the Governeur, together, getting naked together, etc, the warmth, the moister, the sixty nining, looking, feeling the senses, the aromas, sucking his spent cock, the taste of him the feel of his butt, his ball sac on my face . . . . .

 

Hence, the answer to your question, though it took me less that a neuron of a second to say it "Taboo farmed cock" means the experience of Taboo the place, the people, the experience of all that in my life.;-)

[Rick Munroe]

Okay, I think I get it now. It's cummy cock that one hires from a gay strip club in Montreal?

[jack]

Well, if your rushed and short of time, that's what you might do. Taboo farmed cock, however, is a total experience different from anything else on the planet. ;-)

[guptasa1]

Just as a quick update, I'm doing reasonably well I think.

 

Going down once and staying down doesn't seem a problem at all anymore, and I can breathe around the cock fine. (Still practicing on a dildo). I really feel I can take a guy down my throat and have my nose hit his belly/pubic hair without problem now, but we'll see.

 

What I still haven't mastered (and am wondering if I will) is bobbing up and down and deepthroating each time, especially quickly, or simulating face-fucking. If I go very slow, I don't do too badly (still some), but fast does make me gag and sputter and tend to sometimes spit up. (Again, not throw up, so I don't think it'd be too embarassing, but still...). I'm not sure at this point that's getting easier, but we'll see.

[bottombiNYC]

I am a gagger, and thus lame. The best time I had trying to overcome this problem was with a top who had a paddle ready for everytime I failed. It was fun and we made a game out of my lameness. It's a shame too, because a good bottom really needs to be able to be face fucked for as long as the top wants (at least, thats the kind of bottom I wish I was)

 

Anyway, I gagged, had problems sitting down eventually, but at least the top was entertained during my struggle.

[bottombiNYC]

I am a gagger, and thus lame. The best time I had trying to overcome this problem was with a top who had a paddle ready for everytime I failed. It was fun and we made a game out of my lameness. It's a shame too, because a good bottom really needs to be able to be face fucked for as long as the top wants (at least, thats the kind of bottom I wish I was)

 

Anyway, I gagged, had problems sitting down eventually, but at least the top was entertained during my struggle.

[guptasa1]

Mmmm...thank you for the hot story - that sounds awesome (though I understand you're frustrated as to the gagging...I dunno if I'll ever be able to take a facefucking either, but I wanna try for sure - lol)! I have yet to have a really, really hard spanking either (want to though!). I've had tender ones that didn't last very long, but am looking forward to trying that...and that sounds like exactly the type of punishment I'd like (as long as I knew there was no actual malice) - hehe. =oP

[jack]

RE: Deep-Throating & Masochism, Since when?

 

Are you all inferring that deep throating, the art of it, the passion for doing it, is an exponent of masochism? That's new to me and I'm not sure that thinking about that way would add anything to my pleasure in deep throating and holding in a partners hard cock for both our mutual enjoyment -- I just never considered that I was being subserviant to him in doing that with him whether or not he "face fucked me" which none of them (my dates) have. Plus, I don't consider it masochistic for me when I kiss them with their own cum. They all do nice things for me. I do nice things for them. When does this spin into M & S. Pray tell. Interesting travels of the subconscious or dead end jerkoff material?

 

[guptasa1]

RE: Deep-Throating & Masochism, Since when?

 

>Are you all inferring that deep throating, the art of it, the

>passion for doing it, is an exponent of masochism? That's new

>to me and I'm not sure that thinking about that way would add

>anything to my pleasure in deep throating and holding in a

>partners hard cock for both our mutual enjoyment -- I just

>never considered that I was being subserviant to him in doing

>that with him whether or not he "face fucked me" which none of

>them (my dates) have. Plus, I don't consider it masochistic

>for me when I kiss them with their own cum. They all do nice

>things for me. I do nice things for them. When does this spin

>into M & S. Pray tell. Interesting travels of the

>subconscious or dead end jerkoff material?

>

>

 

Well, like anything else, I'm sure it depends on the people involved and also the general situation.

 

For me, I'm submissive anyways, so my desire to deepthroat is indeed an extension of that of sorts. And I'd like to be facefucked or taught to "take it" by a dominant guy. But even apart of that in more vanilla settings, I think I'd have fun with it and certainly appreciate it being done to me (though I'm not huge so it's probably not that hard with me - lol).

 

A lot of people may just like deep-throating for deep-throating sake, similar to any other sexual behavior, and that's just what appeals to them about it - the act itself *shrugs*. A lot of things can be construed as submission/domination or sadomasichism in some cases but aren't at all in others.

 

Just my take on it.

[guptasa1]

RE: Deep-Throating & Masochism, Since when?

 

Just as an update, my practice paid off. I had sex for the first time since starting practicing this (with a person I'd been with before more than once...and he's rather sizeable at that), and I had NO problems taking him this time. The worst that happened was an occasional choke or I had to back off just for a moment to stop a gag, but I could take him SOOOO much easier than before, and he noticed the difference and improvement right away! It is possible, folks! I couldn't deepthroat him at ALL before, and I was so happy I could this time! =o)

 

Now, for a really interesting question. Do I need to keep practicing regularly to maintain this ability, or is it something I'll never lose now that I've "learned"?

 

Thanks again guys for all the tips!

[Mouth]

RE: Deep-Throating & Masochism, Since when?

 

Congratulations on your perseverance. I hope it's giving you a lot of pleasure. While I do think practice makes perfect, I don't think you'll have to constantly practice on toys, cucumbers and zucchini just to keep in good oral shape! Right now I'd say the best thing you can do is relax an enjoy and always remember to breathe!

 

I enjoy orally mastering a wide variety of well-endowed men, and have often been told I have very good oral skills. One of my favorite escorts has one of the biggest dicks I've ever seen and has always been complimentary. He told me that many guys think they are good at it, but few really are. Well, okay, and goody for me. But I do have gag reflexes and what I've learned over the years is that the fattest dicks give me the most trouble. And I've also given myself permission not to think that every dick is Mt. Everest challenge I have to conquer. Lots of men, escorts and otherwise, don't necessarily want or need yo to deep-throat them. I've sucked guys who go crazy when you're halfway down there, with four more inches to go. As a certified dick pig, I'd love to be able to get face-fucked by my partner for minutes at a time--I can't, and bellieve me I've tried. Another escort I've seen for years has a cock that fits me like glove. He can do anything he likes and I'm always hungry for more. Again, it's the girth issue. His sexy dick is certainly fat enough, but not so fat that I can't do whatever he or I want. Another long-term escort I've enjoyed over the years truly has the biggest cock I've ever been with and besides its amazing length, the sheer girth of his endowment is a little intimidating. I've sucked his amazing pole many times and have even managed on one or two occasions to get to the base without choking to death. He always admires my skill and has told me many have tried, and too often he's a victim of over-zealous cock suckers intent on turning him into chopped beef! Now matter how I manage to breathe sucking this man (and I make sure I think about breathing with him--trust me!), it's still not possible. He can face-fuck me, but not all the way. We still have one helluva good time.

 

One other thing. I find I do a lot better when I'm controlling the situation, or my partner and I are exchanging control. I've been with guys who start face-fucking you the minute you've got the head of their dick in your mouth. I find this approach really insensitive, and immediately and firmly slow them down. There's a hot looking New York top (nameless) who did this to me (he actually told me he is into rough, skip-the-foreplay, if-you're-looking-for-romance-you've-got-the-wrong-guy-type--too bad he didn't announce this to me before I hired him! Needless to say, the session was a huge disappointment). So much is dependent on your partner's sensitivity too.

 

So three slurps and a lick for your commitment to the cause!

 

 

 

 

>Just as an update, my practice paid off. I had sex for the

>first time since starting practicing this (with a person I'd

>been with before more than once...and he's rather sizeable at

>that), and I had NO problems taking him this time. The worst

>that happened was an occasional choke or I had to back off

>just for a moment to stop a gag, but I could take him SOOOO

>much easier than before, and he noticed the difference and

>improvement right away! It is possible, folks! I couldn't

>deepthroat him at ALL before, and I was so happy I could this

>time! =o)

>

>Now, for a really interesting question. Do I need to keep

>practicing regularly to maintain this ability, or is it

>something I'll never lose now that I've "learned"?

>

>Thanks again guys for all the tips!

[Guest marcoparis]

The rule is very simple.

OPEN WIDE!!!

;-)

[guptasa1]

Just as a note, tried this again after not practicing for some time (more than a week) to see if I had to start all over again or if it was indeed like riding a bike.

 

I'm happy to say it's like riding a bike - had no probs at all deep-throating the dildo. =o) My throat's a little sore after not practicing for a while, but it seems once the skill was learned, it stayed learned. Thanks again all, and good luck to all those learning - it IS possible! =o)

[Guest Manwich87]

Just wondering- Where can I find the original post?(Im having trouble finding it.)