First Time Reviews

[KY_TOP]

RE: Bastian

 

You will find Bastain in the reviews under Kansas. I agree with VaHawk, he is a great young man.

[KY_TOP]

RE: Bastian

 

You will find Bastain in the reviews under Kansas. I agree with VaHawk, he is a great young man.

[jackhammer91406]

Hawk,

I have re-read the post regarding your decision to no longer send in reviews. I have mixed feelings on that. On the one hand, your contributions to the MC have often prompted me to think about what was being discussed when I would have probably moved on. Sometimes, frankly, some of your posts have made me angry. Others have made me laugh out loud. While I have posted a number of reviews, I have sometimes been frustrated with the speed that they were published, but then, I have hired escorts who have been reviewed here often, thereby falling into the 30 day rule. The fact that I have made several contributions hasn't affected that rule at all. I have found that certain reviewers have a credibility that is based not only on their submitted reviews, but their participation in the MC. You are one of these people.

On the other hand, I am sympathetic to your right to decide as a matter of principle what you want to do based on your perception of what is actually going on.

I hope that in the future, you will offer more of your experiences via reviews, but I totally respect whatever decision you finally make.

[jackhammer91406]

Hawk,

I have re-read the post regarding your decision to no longer send in reviews. I have mixed feelings on that. On the one hand, your contributions to the MC have often prompted me to think about what was being discussed when I would have probably moved on. Sometimes, frankly, some of your posts have made me angry. Others have made me laugh out loud. While I have posted a number of reviews, I have sometimes been frustrated with the speed that they were published, but then, I have hired escorts who have been reviewed here often, thereby falling into the 30 day rule. The fact that I have made several contributions hasn't affected that rule at all. I have found that certain reviewers have a credibility that is based not only on their submitted reviews, but their participation in the MC. You are one of these people.

On the other hand, I am sympathetic to your right to decide as a matter of principle what you want to do based on your perception of what is actually going on.

I hope that in the future, you will offer more of your experiences via reviews, but I totally respect whatever decision you finally make.

[woodlawn]

>Many of the posters here obviously don't trust Hooboys

>competence in handling first time reviewers despite the

>rigorous and tedious lengths he goes to to verify them. If

>that weren't the case there wouldn't be so many issues raised

>by them regarding these reviews.

 

 

The incidence of fake reviews on this site has become so great that one would have to be blind to avoid noticing it. Take a look at the reviews for Billy in Orlando, for example, and tell me you don't agree that most of them have been written by the same person. It's incredibly unfair for you to blame posters for becoming cynical about the reviews when the blame really belongs to those who have tried to manipulate the review process for their own financial gain. Try putting the blame where it belongs for a change.

[woodlawn]

>Many of the posters here obviously don't trust Hooboys

>competence in handling first time reviewers despite the

>rigorous and tedious lengths he goes to to verify them. If

>that weren't the case there wouldn't be so many issues raised

>by them regarding these reviews.

 

 

The incidence of fake reviews on this site has become so great that one would have to be blind to avoid noticing it. Take a look at the reviews for Billy in Orlando, for example, and tell me you don't agree that most of them have been written by the same person. It's incredibly unfair for you to blame posters for becoming cynical about the reviews when the blame really belongs to those who have tried to manipulate the review process for their own financial gain. Try putting the blame where it belongs for a change.

[KY_TOP]

> ... my only regret about that is not giving a stellar

>review to those escorts who are more than a cut above the

>majority, as they deserve to be brought to the attention of

>other potential clients.

>

>

>

The "stellar reviews" from valuable and credible contributors for "those Escorts who are more than a cut above the majority" are what truly makes this site so valuable to those of us that utilze it for it's intended purposes... Meeting Escorts.

 

If everyone felt the same as you do, and I understand your frustration, then were would not only this site be but, those of us that are meeting great people we would have never met without it.

 

Another thing is that some of these "Stellar Escorts" have told me that a new good review will result in a 2-3 weeks of increased activity for them. Keep in mind this is how many make their living or at least give them extra needed income.

 

The original topic of this thread just adds to all this. There is obviously some value to reviews from a reviewer with multiple post over First Timers. If there wasn't, why ask the question.

[KY_TOP]

> ... my only regret about that is not giving a stellar

>review to those escorts who are more than a cut above the

>majority, as they deserve to be brought to the attention of

>other potential clients.

>

>

>

The "stellar reviews" from valuable and credible contributors for "those Escorts who are more than a cut above the majority" are what truly makes this site so valuable to those of us that utilze it for it's intended purposes... Meeting Escorts.

 

If everyone felt the same as you do, and I understand your frustration, then were would not only this site be but, those of us that are meeting great people we would have never met without it.

 

Another thing is that some of these "Stellar Escorts" have told me that a new good review will result in a 2-3 weeks of increased activity for them. Keep in mind this is how many make their living or at least give them extra needed income.

 

The original topic of this thread just adds to all this. There is obviously some value to reviews from a reviewer with multiple post over First Timers. If there wasn't, why ask the question.

[+ Lucky]

"Yes, there are a few clients and escorts who have been on this site for a while and seem to think that they have control of what goes on here."

 

Who, who? Aaron, about whom are you speaking? Tell me the clients and escorts that seem to think they have control of what goes on here. And how do they do it? Your statement is pure and utter bullshit. Anybody can post here. As often or as little as they like. Each post gets whatever space it takes up.

SO are you saying it is the review section that is controlled by this group? Again, who are these people? My guess is that Hooboy wishes he had MORE control than he does. But who else, Aaron? Which escorts control their reviews or what gets posted? Who are these powerful reviewers?

It seems to me that the system has flaws, but we point them out readily? What system doesn't have flaws? No one forces anyone to submit or read a review. If a review is rejected, Hooboy invariably will explain why if asked. In my opinion, he should reject more reviews. But he don't care about my opinion on that. I think he errs on the side of the escort. But, why not? He has to make choices. He has never hit me up for money other than his general panhandling on occasion.

So, anyway, I wonder what you meant by this statement. Maybe I will get lucky and we can talk about this sometime in bed...

[woodlawn]

>Who, who? Aaron, about whom are you speaking? Tell me the

>clients and escorts that seem to think they have control of

>what goes on here.

 

I don't know whom Aaron meant, but I can think of several posters who keep popping up in threads where an escort is being discussed and telling people it's time to stop talking about him, can't you? I bet you can.

 

>Anybody can post here. As often or as

>little as they like.

 

Really? So what happened to Ethan?

 

>SO are you saying it is the review section that is controlled

>by this group? Again, who are these people? My guess is that

>Hooboy wishes he had MORE control than he does. But who else,

>Aaron? Which escorts control their reviews or what gets

>posted? Who are these powerful reviewers?

 

 

I don't know anything about any reviewers who have been given preference over others, although I have seen several people mention that. I have seen a lot of complaints this year from people who claim they have sent in reviews that have not been posted. If you check the email section you will see some of them. I have also seen several recent examples of longtime posters who indicate that they are unwilling to post information about certain escorts who are popular on this message board because there is a group of posters who always attack anyone who does so. Don't say you haven't noticed that as well.

 

>It seems to me that the system has flaws, but we point them

>out readily?

 

And what happens then?

 

>I think he errs on the side of the escort. But, why

>not?

 

Because the ostensible purpose of this site is to provide clients with information that will allow them to make informed decisions about hiring. When in doubt about any given piece of information, why not simply let the clients decide about it for themselves?

[giovoni]

>The incidence of fake reviews on this site has become so great

>that one would have to be blind to avoid noticing it. Take a

>look at the reviews for Billy in Orlando, for example, and

>tell me you don't agree that most of them have been written by

>the same person.

 

I'm not sure how I can analyze all of Billy's reviews. I read them and all I really noticed is that in almost 3 years of getting reviews admittedly from first time reviewers and once in return for a blow job, no one has written a bad review or one that says the previous reviews are inaccurate. I also know that Hooboy has been changing how he verifies first time reviews several times just in the year that I've known about this site, so even if there are some reviews from 2-3 years ago that you could question I think the process has become more stringent. The only way I can imagine someone continuously publishing fake reviews is to buy new cell phones with new numbers every time they want to publish. Also it seems that most escorts that want to beat this system would turn in a couple reviews for other escorts in their own city or other cities before writing one for themselves. That way they could establish some fake credibility before submitting the one to Hooboy. I kinda wonder if there are more fake reviews like that then ones that are easy to discredit simply from being first time reviews.

 

>It's incredibly unfair for you to blame

>posters for becoming cynical about the reviews when the blame

>really belongs to those who have tried to manipulate the

>review process for their own financial gain. Try putting the

>blame where it belongs for a change.

 

I don't think it's incredibly unfair. From the responses I got to the question I think there may be less cynicism then I thought at first anyway. What may have been unfair was characterizing too many posters as having that attitude?

 

I also don't think I'm tossing about 'blame.' Certainly I haven't been one in the short time I've been on here to spread 'blame' for what I see as problems. I definitely haven't done it so much that you could imply it's a habit of mine by saying 'for a change.' The fact that I post at all in the last month has been "a change." I know I haven't flamed out or broken down or insulted enough people here yet to be an official part of the 'knitting circle' but I guess patience may bring that eventually.

 

I probably also owe you a small apology for not responding to this sooner. I know you posted it on Thursday and it's Sunday night now hope you didn't turn too blue holding your breath for my response :-) .

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[woodlawn]

>Take a look at the reviews for Billy in Orlando, for example, and

>>tell me you don't agree that most of them have been written

>by the same person.

 

>I'm not sure how I can analyze all of Billy's reviews. I read

>them and all I really noticed is that in almost 3 years of

>getting reviews admittedly from first time reviewers and once

>in return for a blow job, no one has written a bad review or

>one that says the previous reviews are inaccurate.

 

I find it very difficult to believe that you failed to notice that his many "different" reviewers all share the same habits of grammar, punctuation and sentence construction. Perhaps they all had the same English teacher?

 

Did you also fail to notice that Hooboy added a note disputing one of the reviewers' claims to have posted reviews of other escorts? I noticed it.

 

>so even if there are some reviews from 2-3 years

>ago that you could question I think the process has become

>more stringent. The only way I can imagine someone

>continuously publishing fake reviews is to buy new cell phones

>with new numbers every time they want to publish.

 

Whatever the verification process was earlier or is now, it is quite obvious that plenty of fake reviews get through. Whatever the security measures may be, they aren't foolproof.

 

>>It's incredibly unfair for you to blame

>>posters for becoming cynical about the reviews when the

>blame

>>really belongs to those who have tried to manipulate the

>>review process for their own financial gain. Try putting the

>>blame where it belongs for a change.

 

>I don't think it's incredibly unfair.

 

I do think it is. Early in the history of this site it was very rare for anyone to be able to point to a review that seemed questionable. Now it happens constantly. As the importance of this site in the industry has grown, more and more escorts seem to have realized the potential benefits of a positive review and more and more of them seem to be trying to game the system. The complaints about first time reviewers are simply a reaction to that.

 

>I also don't think I'm tossing about 'blame.' Certainly I

>haven't been one in the short time I've been on here to spread

>'blame' for what I see as problems. I definitely haven't done

>it so much that you could imply it's a habit of mine by saying

>'for a change.'

 

I disagree.