Escort and Client Etiquette & Expectations

[Guest Luv2MassageMuscle]

Terrific forum here guys, Im learning a lot.

 

Hopefully, I will soon be hiring my first scort within a month but still have a lot of questions for the escorts ... here's a few:

 

1) Does a Pitcher, by nature, only pitch when on the job or will you guys catch for a client -- and vice versa. I would imagine some are versatile but I am interested to know if the percentile is high or low. [This ties in with my interests as stated in #7 below].

 

(For any question herein, please feel free to offer your perception of what the overall profession does in addition to your personal practice.)

 

2) How tight (no pun intended) do you all schedule your clientele? Since in any profession there are good and bad practices, Im concerned about getting someone's leftovers or a tired lame scort. I shudder at the thought of orally topping a scort who has just been licked and creamed on by some other client 90 minutes earlier with maybe only a fast shower in between - if that. (I can tell if a guy has another guys'scent on him in certain places and that would stop me dead in my tracks).

 

3) What type of fee should I expect to pay for a second and third hour of company given the first hour is at least 200 clams. If I am the oral top, thus expending most of the energy, will a scort be flexible and kind with additional hours?

 

4) Are most bottoms, or for that matter, bottom and top escorts fetish friendly? I learned my desires are more common than I once thought (the scent of hot looking toes and jock crotch/friction sweat). My question is how common is it to request a scort to take his shower or bath before he does his jogging or gym workout a few hours before his visit to me ? ...

 

5) And, if I am doing cart wheels over the scent of his socks or briefs, will a spontaneous offer to buy his underclothes get me chuckle, a deal or a weird look and a "NO" ?????? LOL

What would you guys do and at what $$$. [Ouch, I think this one will hurt!!!]:9

 

(I'll try to wrap this up now)...

 

6) On average, If Im the Oral top doing most of the work, how many loads might I expect a scort to blow in the given timeframe:

 

a) 1 Hour

b) 2 Hours

c) 3 Hours

 

( Im hopeing at least 2 in the first hour, 3 loads within 2 hours and maybe 5 within 3 hours ??? - Am I close boys? I just dont know what to expect given your varied schedules, personal love life and viagra and stuff - Im pretty naive here).:9

 

7) Although Im in my late 30's, Im still fairly new to M2M action. I have never been penetrated, nor have I been deep inside a guy yet. I feel I am compelled to experience both near term, and I prefer a good, hot, patient & understanding teacher. In general, are escorts the way to go -- or not?

 

hELp !!!

 

Thanks Guys!

PS... Any referrals would be greatly appreciated. Im near the NE border of PA & NJ off of Rt 80.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

An Escort Answers

 

>1) Does a Pitcher, by nature, only pitch when on the job or

>will you guys catch for a client -- and vice versa.

 

I only pitch with clients. I rarely catch personally. This is true of Rod Hagen. For what you are requesting, you may want a versatile bottom your first few times and when you wish to explore anal sex receptively, a genuinely versatile top. Be very specific with the escorts and, as everyone says here, read their reviews and see what other clients have said respecting their versatility.

 

>2) How tight (no pun intended) do you all schedule your

>clientele?

>

>3) What type of fee should I expect to pay for a second and

>third hour of company

 

I do one client a day. Other escorts here have indicated they have done as many as four or five. This is a business and it is akin to asking a chef to cook a meal only for you instead of every patron who might occupy every table. Granted, you will get a better meal, more attention, and your specific requests would be better met, but you should be prepared to pay more.

 

In line with your third question, I and most other escorts give discounts for multiple hour hires. If not offered, ask. This should deal with your scheduling concern. However, if cost is an issue for you or another client, consider requesting the first appointment that evening or some other alternative that will work for you AND the escort.

 

>4) Are most bottoms, or for that matter, bottom and top

>escorts fetish friendly?

>

>5) And, if I am doing cart wheels over the scent of his

>socks or briefs, will a spontaneous offer to buy his

>underclothes get me

 

ASK, ASK, ASK. I do not wear underwear. So you would not be able to buy it off me. If I did wear underwear, I would prefer to bring a clean pair if I knew I might end up selling the ones I had worn to your home.

 

>6) On average, If Im the Oral top doing most of the work,

>how many loads might I expect a scort to blow in the given

>timeframe:

>

>a) 1 Hour

>b) 2 Hours

>c) 3 Hours

>

>( Im hopeing at least 2 in the first hour, 3 loads within 2

>hours and maybe 5 within 3 hours ??? - Am I close boys?

 

You can always hope and an escort can always promise, but this is not something I think anyone can guarantee and, frankly, I think the high end of your expectations are quite high. Masters and Johnson's research indicated that twice each within an hour or so during lovemaking sessions of short duration (10 - 15 minutes each) was the norm.

 

Finally, as I have indicated and has often been expressed herein, communication is the key. Everyone is very different. Even if I were to guess at percentages, I have more knowledge of escorts in California than I do in your area. Find someone you like, get comfortable with them, and without spending too much of their time, ask away.

 

Good luck and keep us posted!

 

UPDATED 09/04/2002 - http://www.gaydar.co.uk/francodisantis

[Guest jeffOH]

Dude, way too many questions and specific expectations(a certain # of loads per session??). Just hire a guy already and fuck the hell out of him.}>

 

I know as a client you may have an idea of what you would like to happen, but to me you're sounding borderline high-maintenance.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[Flower]

>Terrific forum here guys, Im learning a lot.

>

>Hopefully, I will soon be hiring my first scort within a

>month but still have a lot of questions for the escorts ...

>here's a few:

>

>1) Does a Pitcher, by nature, only pitch when on the job or

>will you guys catch for a client -- and vice versa. I would

>imagine some are versatile but I am interested to know if

>the percentile is high or low. [This ties in with my

>interests as stated in #7 below].

>

>(For any question herein, please feel free to offer your

>perception of what the overall profession does in addition

>to your personal practice.)

>

>2) How tight (no pun intended) do you all schedule your

>clientele? Since in any profession there are good and bad

>practices, Im concerned about getting someone's leftovers or

>a tired lame scort. I shudder at the thought of orally

>topping a scort who has just been licked and creamed on by

>some other client 90 minutes earlier with maybe only a fast

>shower in between - if that. (I can tell if a guy has

>another guys'scent on him in certain places and that would

>stop me dead in my tracks).

>

>3) What type of fee should I expect to pay for a second and

>third hour of company given the first hour is at least 200

>clams. If I am the oral top, thus expending most of the

>energy, will a scort be flexible and kind with additional

>hours?

>

>4) Are most bottoms, or for that matter, bottom and top

>escorts fetish friendly? I learned my desires are more

>common than I once thought (the scent of hot looking toes

>and jock crotch/friction sweat). My question is how common

>is it to request a scort to take his shower or bath before

>he does his jogging or gym workout a few hours before his

>visit to me ? ...

>

>5) And, if I am doing cart wheels over the scent of his

>socks or briefs, will a spontaneous offer to buy his

>underclothes get me chuckle, a deal or a weird look and a

>"NO" ?????? LOL

>What would you guys do and at what $$$. [Ouch, I think this

>one will hurt!!!]:9

>

>(I'll try to wrap this up now)...

>

>6) On average, If Im the Oral top doing most of the work,

>how many loads might I expect a scort to blow in the given

>timeframe:

>

>a) 1 Hour

>b) 2 Hours

>c) 3 Hours

>

>( Im hopeing at least 2 in the first hour, 3 loads within 2

>hours and maybe 5 within 3 hours ??? - Am I close boys? I

>just dont know what to expect given your varied schedules,

>personal love life and viagra and stuff - Im pretty naive

>here).:9

>

>7) Although Im in my late 30's, Im still fairly new to M2M

>action. I have never been penetrated, nor have I been deep

>inside a guy yet. I feel I am compelled to experience both

>near term, and I prefer a good, hot, patient & understanding

>teacher. In general, are escorts the way to go -- or not?

>

>hELp !!!

>

>Thanks Guys!

>PS... Any referrals would be greatly appreciated. Im near

>the NE border of PA & NJ off of Rt 80.

 

Without a doubt, this is one of the more stupid posts I have seen here, and that is saying something!

 

In fact it is so stupid, I think "Luv2MassageMuscle" (Member since Sep-24-02) has changed his screen name to even protect his better known fake identity, or else he's just having fun with not-so-smart people like me who even bother to respond to this stuff.

 

Flower :*

[+ Lucky]

Huh? Doesn't everybody cum 5 times in three hours?

[Guest Luv2MassageMuscle]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

Thank you Franco.

 

I know it was a long post and you fielded the questions well.

 

Thanks.

[Guest Luv2MassageMuscle]

No Flower, I didn't change my handle. LOL !

 

I have my reasons for making that post. I am not at liberty to discuss that just yet.

 

BTW, You flunked like a dead fish buddy.

 

Love ya anyway:*

[+ Lucky]

RE: An Escort Answers

 

So it IS a test, and not a quiz?

[Guest ncm2169]

OK...here goes...Oh fuck, where's my escort matrix??..I had it here just a minute ago...hang on...BRB...OK I found it!!...Whew...thought I lost it!

 

OK...lemme c...NE border of PA and NJ off Rt. 80. Hang on, it's slow tonite. (Tick tock tick tock tick tock). OK...here ya go...it shows 3 escorts within that perimeter.

 

Escort # 1 guarantees two orgams in two hours, but only if you finger him and suck ONLY his right nut, however he gives no money back guarantee. (I'd pass). :-(

 

Escort # 2 promises "best efforts" for a 3 orgasm night, but offers a money back guarantee if he only cums twice. (I'd try to negotiate, eg., if orgasm number 3 is only a dribble, I'd offer to pay him 1/3 of his rate for the last blast).

 

Escort # 3 promises to make your date a success. Based on your research, you have reason to believe you'll have a good time. You hook up with the escort and, to your amazement, some things happen that you didn't expect, but you REALLY get off. (I'd recommend that you BEWARE of this escort, because he may tempt you into activities that you weren't prepared to control and therefore also not able to enjoy). :9

 

You pays your money and you takes your chances. :+

[taylorky]

LOL contract for service, hell why not. hey i have a question......serious. guys can make money selling....funky drawers....i'm not ragging,i'm serious.can a profit be made that would justify the overhead ie: drawers/postage.can it be home based or do you have to be there in person.i've seen this on line before but thought it was b/s.i can funk anything up,my socks whoaaaaaaa.anyway i am serious. taylor@ 0023 09/26/02

[Flower]

>I have my reasons for making that post. I am not at liberty

>to discuss that just yet.

 

You're too funny guy--whenever anyone here gets caught with a foolish post or response, it's always something like "I have my reasons for making that post. I am not at liberty to discuss that just yet" or "I was just trying to get a reaction" etc. Anyway, whatever makes ya feel good dude :+

 

Flower :*

[Guest dstud4hire]

>Terrific forum here guys, Im learning a lot.

>

>Hopefully, I will soon be hiring my first scort within a

>month but still have a lot of questions for the escorts ...

>here's a few:

>

>1) Does a Pitcher, by nature, only pitch when on the job or

>will you guys catch for a client -- and vice versa. I would

>imagine some are versatile but I am interested to know if

>the percentile is high or low. [This ties in with my

>interests as stated in #7 below].

 

I generally only catch when with a client, though will make exceptions, and do, depending on the chemistry with the guy, and exactly how the session is going. In my personal life i've become fairly versatile, and enjoy it.

 

>

>2) How tight (no pun intended) do you all schedule your

>clientele? Usu. no more than 2 a night or 3 during the whole day/night, but that is very rare for me. If I do 2 in a night, I will eiether sked them with about 2-3 hours in between, or at the most, no less then an hour between, in in a case like that, I will sked one who I know wants me to cum, and the other one who I know it isn't important. but again, all that is rare. It's generally one a day, since I do tis part time.

 

>3) What type of fee should I expect to pay for a second and

>third hour of company given the first hour is at least 200

>clams. If I am the oral top, thus expending most of the

>energy, will a scort be flexible and kind with additional

>hours? Since my fee is $150 an hr, I generally keep that same price, and start the discounting after the 3rd hour.

>

>4) Are most bottoms, or for that matter, bottom and top

>escorts fetish friendly? I learned my desires are more

>common than I once thought (the scent of hot looking toes

>and jock crotch/friction sweat). My question is how common

>is it to request a scort to take his shower or bath before

>he does his jogging or gym workout a few hours before his

>visit to me ? ...

while not a common practice, I do receive that and other requests, and have generally complied with the majority of requests out there. I did once have a guy want to hire me as a party favor for all his guests. I would be in a sling getting fucked all night long. when I suggested a bowl of condoms near by, he said "oh sure, if you want" as an after thought...needless to say, I turned down his offer, so obviousaly, requests do have their limit.

>

>5) And, if I am doing cart wheels over the scent of his

>socks or briefs, will a spontaneous offer to buy his

>underclothes get me chuckle, a deal or a weird look and a

>"NO" ?????? LOL

won't get a weird look from me.

 

>What would you guys do and at what $$$. [Ouch, I think this

>one will hurt!!!]:9

just ask.......

>

 

>

>6) On average, If Im the Oral top doing most of the work,

>how many loads might I expect a scort to blow in the given

>timeframe:

>

>a) 1 Hour

>b) 2 Hours

>c) 3 Hours

>

>( Im hopeing at least 2 in the first hour, 3 loads within 2

>hours and maybe 5 within 3 hours ??? - Am I close boys? I

>just dont know what to expect given your varied schedules,

>personal love life and viagra and stuff - Im pretty naive

>here).:9

 

First of all...I don't take viagra, don't need it. BUT wow WOW aren't you expecting a lot from your escorts.....the only escorts I know who can do tihs are the 18-21 y/olds......you MIGHT get 3 loads from me in 3 hours....but I generally find that with my clients, it's far less about the cum, and far more about what I will do to make them feel special. With very rare exception, the client is so happy with our time together and what I have done to him , that whether or not I came is almost a side note.

>

>7) Although Im in my late 30's, Im still fairly new to M2M

>action. I have never been penetrated, nor have I been deep

>inside a guy yet. I feel I am compelled to experience both

>near term, and I prefer a good, hot, patient & understanding

>teacher. In general, are escorts the way to go -- or not?

>

YES! it avoids the whole BS of the bars, both parties know why we are there, and it gets the BS conversation out of the way, forcing both parties to just be honest about limits, desires, wants, needs. it's also a great way to ensure you are getting all your needs met!

 

good luck!

>hELp !!!

>

>Thanks Guys!

>PS... Any referrals would be greatly appreciated. Im near

>the NE border of PA & NJ off of Rt 80.

 

geno in PHL is GREAT! I hired him once. (yes, even us escorts hire - it was valentine's day, and I just wanted to treat myself!) He is sweet, handsome, nice, big dicked, and knows exactly how to meet your needs! if you book him, tell him I said hello!!!!

of course, I'm always available to travel! (cheap plug I know!)

[btmstudnyc]

Hey LUV2 but can't.

 

 

My suggestion...you have 7 questions...HIRE 7 escorts for each question, all in one day....so in 3 hours you'll get 7 guys cumming on you. It might be the same price as one escort who can do all this in three hours. Because if you find an escort.....let alone one that lives in your area...that can do all this...He should be expensive. AND Please...let us know his name.

 

I think you should just find a boyfriend...they always do shit like that. Well, at least I wish mine would.

 

Seriously though, just jump in and test it over time. I don't think you should start with 3 hours and all of your above requests...baby steps is the way to go.

 

And as far as being a stupid post. Didn't someone ever teach you. There is no such thing as a stupid question...just a stupid ___________(fill in the blank)

 

Jim

 

:o

[Guest Luv2MassageMuscle]

My Intentions

 

ok, I can see where this is going. Its not what I had intended with the exception of franco's and flower's post.

 

I am new to this site.

 

Initially, I was extremely impressed with the forum here until I starting reading more subject matter like "deorandants" and "tips", "watching the clock", etc - this is when my good impression turned sour.

 

I couldnt believe how some of you compared your time, billing and "profession" to a doctors, attorneys etc. Your examples only characterized the bad apples and the extremes which can be said of any profession or service like escorting. There are doctors and attorneys whose billing is extremely reasonable and fair. You know and I know it.

 

The greed, attitude, lack of respect and care for some of your clients became very evident when the client courtesy of offering a drink to a escort upon his arrival, was thought by some, to be chargeable (time) to the client.

 

The deodorant issue is off the wall. This is the USA. You know the customs. Unless a client requests BO, then you know the script. Period. If you stink - then you really stink at what you do and shouldnt be doing it. PERIOD. And to think some of you would accept payment when YOU knew you did something wrong to prompt your client to cut the time short and paid you in full. Amazing. And some of you feel proud about this stuff?

 

I can go into more but I dont need to.

 

My initial post (Topic) was intentionally extreme and I wanted to see whose buttons I pushed.

 

Clearly Franco passed. He handled the post with grace and patience and I commend him. He must be a terrific scort and I doubt he has any disatisfied clientele.

 

On the other hand, Flower's flunked big time. He flew off the handle and his greater than GOD attitude was very apparent and you and I know this poor attitude will surface in friendships, relationships and to his paying clients.

 

Reviews in other forms can be dishonest, fabricated and manipulated in several ways by the scort. You have to discount some reviews as they could be from a friend or the escort himself. My approach herein was intended to allow the scort to define himself and his underlying customer service philosophy by his OWN reply.

 

I dont want to wade thru the rest of the crud replies this has created - I didnt expect so much crud and I apologize to the good scorts like Franco for my approach - it was overdone.

 

No apologies to the flunkees here like Flowers. You deserve to be discovered by potential clients here before they pay you for that disappointing experience.

 

Im sure this topic will generate more replies and some may not know of this post. Thus, There will be other interesting CANDID replies from scorts to come unless Flowers emails an alert to all scorts he knoes here. LOL !!!

[Guest Bitchboy]

RE: My Intentions

 

>No apologies to the flunkees here like Flowers. You deserve

>to be discovered by potential clients here before they pay

>you for that disappointing experience.

>

>

 

Sometimes an "F" seems like a better grade. BTW, I never knew Flower was an escort. An escort with a disabled profile is like an escort with his penis in a cast.;-)

[btmstudnyc]

RE: My Intentions

 

Geez Luv2

 

Thanks for making me feel like a flunky today.

 

I was trying to be funny and serious at the same time...not knowing how to take your questions, then I realized I'd been had.

 

Wasn't there a nicer way to OUT bad apples without engaging the innocent? Remember, a lot of smart people fail simple tests for quite different reasons.

 

At least I'll have to thank you for teaching me a lesson. That not everyone's intentions on these message boards are genuine and honest. But I'll continue to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Because I truly do enjoy these message boards, including the silly ones about deodorant and what not. Humor can be such relief in this day and age.

 

Someone please answer me this question, "What does tolerance mean?"

 

Jim

 

 

 

PS...can someone hit me over the head one more time, I didn't quite hear what you said the first time.

 

 

 

:'(

[+ Lucky]

RE: My Intentions

 

"can someone hit me over the head one more time, I didn't quite hear what you said the first time."

 

Do you mean can someone cut and paste the original long post over again in their reply?

;-)

[CT Dick]

Flower, why did you dupe the entire post? Why not just reply; we have read the original.

 

Curiously,

Dick

[Guest ncm2169]

RE: My Intentions

 

Hey, I replied but I'm not an escort. Does that mean I still flunk?

 

It's always interesting to learn how some people do their "investigative work." :* IMHO, this post was deceitful, tricky, underhanded, and the admissions by its author smack of arrogance. But, I understate... }>

 

Hey, whatever trips your trigger. That's what this site is for. No hard feelings man. :7

[Rick Munroe]

>6) On average, If Im the Oral top doing most of the work,

>how many loads might I expect a scort to blow in the given

>timeframe:

>

>a) 1 Hour

>b) 2 Hours

>c) 3 Hours

 

[ul][li]The sap runs every two years.

[li]The collector of internal revenue.

[li]To scrape the barnacles off her hulls.[/li][/ul]

 

(Ooops...sorry, for a minute I thought I was Lucy Ricardo & this was the Mr. and Mrs. Quiz Show.)

 

>PS... Any referrals would be greatly appreciated. Im near

>the NE border of PA & NJ off of Rt 80.

 

Derek and I travel there often. He drives; I sleep in the passenger seat. But one of us would be available.

[Flower]

>Flower, why did you dupe the entire post? Why not just

>reply; we have read the original.

>

>Curiously,

>Dick

 

I made a mistake--I certainly didn't want to perpetuate it on purpose

 

Flower :*

[Flower]

RE: My Intentions

 

>>No apologies to the flunkees here like Flowers. You deserve

>>to be discovered by potential clients here before they pay

>>you for that disappointing experience.

>>

>>

>

>Sometimes an "F" seems like a better grade. BTW, I never

>knew Flower was an escort. An escort with a disabled

>profile is like an escort with his penis in a cast.;-)

 

I'm with YOU Bitchboy -- sometimes we are better judged by who dislikes us :7

 

Believe me -- everyone pay attention now -- Luv2MassageMuscle is NOT Flower's friend :+

 

....and.....LMAO Flower an escort!? -- hmmm, MUST be one of those $400. Hour jobs at that! LOL. (see the post in the Lounge about Flower charging $400/hr

 

Well I didn't know I was being graded, but for our original "poster" to think FLOWER was an escort (in my dreams maybe:) gets him the big fat "F"

 

And tell me this MR. Luv2, just how is it that I flunked? Was it by saying you had a stupid thread to begin with or was it guessing (post #3 btw;) that you were the fake you have now admitted being?

 

Cya luv--I'll call you, don't call me :+

 

Flower :*

[Flower]

RE: My Intentions

 

> BTW, I never

>>knew Flower was an escort. An escort with a disabled

>>profile is like an escort with his penis in a cast.;-)

 

> Yeah, what's with the profile being "disabled" I felt like I was being disinfranchised until I simulateously got on "the team"

 

But seriously, does any one know? Deej? Can you hear me now?

 

Also, since this thread is now history based on Mr Luv2fake, let me digress a little--does anyone know about font colors and what font color the original thread is? It looks like a reddish brown, but what is that in html on this site? anyone? Can you hear me now?

 

>Flower :*

[bluenix]

RE: My Intentions

 

>what font color the original thread is? It looks like a

>reddish brown, but what is that in html on this site?

>anyone? Can you hear me now?

 

Here's a link to an html color reference:

 

http://www.devx.com/projectcool/developer/reference/color-chart.html

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Fred and Ethel

 

>Derek and I travel there often. He drives; I sleep in the

>passenger seat. But one of us would be available.

 

One of you is available.