Fantasy Wrapped Around Truth?

[Guest ncm2169]

OK guyz, I'm about to be a second time hirer (don't ask about the first), and I'm trying "hard" to be realistic about the occasion (I'm neither young, naive, stupid nor inexperienced in male sex). A poster here referred to an escort meeting as inherently being a "fantasy wrapped aound truth." I am fully prepared to believe (and also fully accept) that about most escort meetings, but what about those escorts who, in their reviews and their posts on this site, eg. Rick Munroe, Smalltown John, etc., make serious claims to be into the sex no matter who the client is (non-hygienic clients and axe-murders etc. excepted)? }> Cutting to the chase, while I clearly desire the escort to be into the "total me" (probably a fantasy), I'll gladly settle for him being into my cock (if it's reality).

 

Comments, escorts?? Truth time. Are you EVER into the moment, or are you ALWAYS supplying a fantasy?

 

P.S. I have NO criticism of providing fantasies. I'm just trying to "sort things out" here.

[Guest jeffOH]

I get off on supplying the fantasy and sharing the moment with the client. When it's sex for me, it's about what turns me on. Often times that's a fantasy scene with another escort. Usually, it's just a different kind of sex with a client. It's about them, not me.:-)

 

JEFF

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[Bilbo]

That quote was from me and I am flattered that you used it. It made my day to see something I said thought about seriously.

 

To me, I am always into the sex. I love what I do sexually and it helps me to turn on even when I might not otherwise. (So does the money when taken as an aphrodesiac.) However, if I simply cannot get off on a guy physically, I can't. Sometimes the fantasy part can be played hard enough that it seems to drop out the reality part For The Client. A leather bottom boy doesn't always need for his Daddy/Master to cum, for one example.

 

To me, I am always into the other person. I love getting into his mind, body and spirit and sharing mine with him. (So long as he doesn't mention his closed relationship with someone else. That's just one of my own personal bugaboos.) If I simply can't get off on the guy's m., b., s., .... well, honey, that's one place where experience helps me. I can usually filter those guys out over the phone and not meet with them at all. If I fail at that, I concentrate on the money, turn my ears off, and hope that his ass is cute enough or deep and wide enough to turn me on purely physically.

 

It's like the kind of cotton candy you buy at the circus, the best kind. The wispy clouds of candy are there, but the hard core of cardboard tubing is there, too. You wouldn't buy the tube without the candy. What would be the point? And I don't like the candy without the tube. My hands get messy. There might be a sliding dichotomy going, but they are both there all the time. I hope it is never a matter of choosing all of one or the other.

[CT Dick]

A non-escort responds

 

Why are you even asking? Who cares if they are faking it or not. If they are good, you leave believing that they enjoyed their time with you.

 

There are certain questions that just should NOT be asked. (What does the kitchen look like in your favorite restaurant? What kind of sex do / did your parents have? What happened to that pet cat your father took to the "farmer's barn?" Did the escort have a good time with you last night?)

 

Dick

[Guest dstud4hire]

I feel the same as anpother poster on this thread...for me...I totally get off on the fantasy of providing a fantasy to someone.

 

This kind of part time work is exciting to me...it's different from my normal job...it's a different part of my life, and I love that.

 

While I will admit the money is VERY nice, if it was just about the money, I don't think I could have done this for 5-6 years if it was just for cash.....

 

and I've met some wonderful guys (clients and escorts alike)...now, are there some times when it might be an 'act' or simply just fantasy...sure, for everyone....and I will tell you why....if you hire me, and spend good money, emotions, and time on me....you would expect only the best....but let's say if sopmething happned in the day that doesn't make me feel like my best....welll, guess what, that's too bad for me....you are the client, expecting your fantasy to be fulfilled.....so yes, on occassion, if my day hasn't gone well, then I might invoke some acting...I would say everyone does at some point...but for the most part, it's a blast doing this, and an actual turn on.....

[Guest luv2luv]

Every time I've asked an escort to involve himself in my fantasy I went in with the realization he may not even understand the full extent of what I'm [shooting] for. So I can appreciate a great acting performance. But I've learned to seek some hint or evidence of active participation in sharing my turn-on. If a hard-on erupts during my passionate act of foot worship and reciprocal touch with his feet evolves spontaneously without alot of promting I begin to sense he's probably more into it than I first imagined. If he gets a hard-on while standing over me watching me follow his personal command to kiss, lick or suck on his feet he's feeling stimulated and is enjoying the sense of power and control; absolutely fine with me. Those are all parts of my fantasy wrapped around truth so to speak. If he's liking the scene, not necessarily wild about my looks or prime parts that's good enough for me. Many a LTR functions on that premise from what I've been told both by the str8 world as well as Gay. Although I've been wild in my mind about some escorts and wanted badly for a few to say I now see what I want in you so don't go home, let's live together; this has never happened and probably never will. And even if it did happen I'd probably worry about getting home in time to iron a shirt for the next day. always, Joey;-)

[Guest footguy]

So, Joey, which Escort'(s) feet do you recommend?

[Gigiloz4me]

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>P.S. I have NO criticism of providing fantasies. I'm just

>trying to "sort things out" here.

 

Here ya go... be honest with the escort regarding your looks, body and if ya smell... things should go fine.

[Guest fukamarine]

>Every time I've asked an escort to involve himself in my

>fantasy I went in with the realization he may not even

>understand the full extent of what I'm [shooting] for. So I

>can appreciate a great acting performance. But I've learned

>to seek some hint or evidence of active participation in

>sharing my turn-on. If a hard-on erupts during my

>passionate act of foot worship and reciprocal touch with his

>feet evolves spontaneously without alot of promting I begin

>to sense he's probably more into it than I first imagined.

>If he gets a hard-on while standing over me watching me

>follow his personal command to kiss, lick or suck on his

>feet he's feeling stimulated and is enjoying the sense of

>power and control; absolutely fine with me. Those are all

>parts of my fantasy wrapped around truth so to speak. If

>he's liking the scene, not necessarily wild about my looks

>or prime parts that's good enough for me. Many a LTR

>functions on that premise from what I've been told both by

>the str8 world as well as Gay. Although I've been wild in

>my mind about some escorts and wanted badly for a few to say

>I now see what I want in you so don't go home, let's live

>together; this has never happened and probably never will.

>And even if it did happen I'd probably worry about getting

>home in time to iron a shirt for the next day.

 

 

Joey: When you were going to school, did your teacher ever tell you about breaking a long disertation into paragraphs? It makes it much easier to read!

 

fukamarine

[Guest luv2luv]

It's not the size always as I see alot of escorts advertise size 12, 13, and than some larger. I can't say I can recommend anybody's but I do suggest asking the escort his idea of what the scene should be like. How he uses those feet is either a talent or he might as well be crushing a cigarette with no passion involved with what might be at the bottom of his feet. always, Joey

[Guest luv2luv]

No. always, Joey

[+ Lucky]

fuk, did your teacher ever tell you that it was not necessary to cut and paste someone else's post that we can all easily read right where it is?:-)

[Guest fukamarine]

>fuk, did your teacher ever tell you that it was not

>necessary to cut and paste someone else's post that we can

>all easily read right where it is?:-)

 

Never had a teacher - totally self taught (or is that tot?)

 

fukamarine

[Flower]

>Never had a teacher - totally self taught (or is that tot?)

>fukamarine

Not quite.....you have Flower, fuckamarine :+

 

Flower :*

[Guest TomSans]

http://www.tomsans.net

 

It's hard enough that I have a overactive thyroid. I also work on publishing porn web sites all day. I am so ready to pounce on someone that by the time they get here I'm just glad that anyone at all is there. So if they seem nice and have a nice smile and disposition I'm into them just because there seem like a great guy to jack off with. I think a lot of escorts are sex addicts first and body nazi's second. My train of thought is we'll all be old and fat someday so lets just enjoy watchin' each other cum. So I think a lot of escorts are into the guy that they're with because there havin' fun doin' what they like to do the most.

 

:7

[nate_sf]

I think there are a lot of escorts out there who really do get into the moment, particularly when the energy is mutual. Some are into all kinds of guys and aren't as hung up on physical appearance as much as you'd think. The hard part is finding out who these escorts are. Some of it is trial and error, some of it is getting a sense of it through how he presents himself in his ad. You'll probably never really know whether some or all of it is fantasy, as several have discussed here, but you can usually get a good idea whether someone is just going through the motions or whether they're into it in some way. For a lot of escorts, getting a guy turned on is a turn on in itself.

 

Nate

[buckguy]

My first few hiring experiences weren't that great. It was before I found this site and also before I figured out how to really participate in the experience. By this I mean, you have to let the escort know what you want, but still make the experience seem natural. It's a contrived situation and like a "first date" (or "first hook up") where being totally "natural" can be totally awkward. Guys I thought were great escorts like Logan Krewe or Peter Raeg (in SF) have seemed gifted with an ability to touch and bring out desire, and be in control w/o seeming to be controlling. It initially bothered me that escorts generally needed to be in control until I realized that someone has to take responsibility for the situation & that has to be the escort. They are the one who makes this their business. They are the ones who are called upon to make any anxious client satisfied. they, rather than the client, are expected to perform. They can't force things to happen, but ultimately, they are the responsible party. After that realization, it became easier, because I knew the implicit rules and I knew that a competent escort would keep things moving in the right direction. If no one had responsibility, it would be a miserable situation, because things would devolve into a power struggle or a situation where time boundaries, money boundaries, personal spece, etc. would be violated. Judging from comments that turn up here & elsewhere, many dissatisfied clients seem to want control over the whole show and I doubt that a competent escort would let that happen.

 

There's more to this as well. Chemistry will vary. Some escorts will be distracted by stressful things in their lives. Clients may choose a time to hire when they're really not able to get engaged (this has happened to me when I set something up in advance). If you don't really know what you want or can't express it, an escort will have no idea where to take you or whether you might touch on one of their limits. I suspect that escorts get used to anxious clients, but get uncomfortable when the anxiety doesn't dissipate over the course of an appointment. The paradox is that they need to know what you want, but they still ultimately run the show.

[nate_sf]

Well said, buckguy. There are a whole range of cues and assumptions built into the meeting, which both the escort and client have to get through. It's very different than a traditional date, which can make the sex much better since both parties are alowed to be straightforward about what they want. My best times are when the client knows what he wants and says so, so I can do what he wants without second guessing. Once all that is taken care of, I think it's far more likely a mutual chemistry can develop.

 

Nate