Redo a bad experience?

[Alex93108]

I posted this partly at Ask a provider, but I had a bad experience with a provider recently [ in Europe] Showed up worn and spent, ( probably from a weekend of partying ) since this was a Sunday, and slightly high also. The whole experience was a 7.5/10 , I was expecting a 9/10.  He is gorgeous and very much my type, considering  a redo ( I told him I wasn't too happy with the encounter).

He seems polite but indifferent. Maybe I am naive, but should I give this boy a redo? ( this would not be a freebie ). I am heading back to the same city in a few months. 

[+ 7829V]

Is he the only one you like in that area? 
He was indifferent to your feedback. 
I’d meet someone else. He does not deserve a second chance. 

 

[Alex93108]

Far from it - This is a major European city where the RM page is 5+ at least. He thanked me for my feedback, thats about it. 

I am inclined to meet someone else. 

[kaboom35]

I have toyed with this idea to give a provider a second chance when the first time around didn't go so well.    With that said,  I'm not saying its always the providers fault - pretty much there could be no chemistry between us.   But I know one escort for sure that I would want to go with again - I forced the session when I was not in the mood at all and had other things on my mind,  I paid him and left 10 minutes in.   I should not have even booked it.   

[Alex93108]

I decided that i won't meet him again for an appointment but offered to take him to dinner ( on me of course) when he is in my city, off the clock. I enjoyed talking to him more than the actual sex, I suppose that happens. 

The best appointments are the ones where the sex was amazing ( all around)  and he leaves, and I am obliged to make repeat appointments.  Can't win them all. 

 

[+ nycman]

Ordering the same dish you didn’t like last time,
at the same restaurant you didn’t like last time,
and somehow expecting a 5 star meal this time…..is delusional. 

Or more simply:

"Fool me once….."

[+ Axiom2001]

On 9/21/2021 at 2:48 PM, jetlow said:

Far from it - This is a major European city where the RM page is 5+ at least. He thanked me for my feedback, thats about it. 

I am inclined to meet someone else. 

You are definitely correct in your desire to meet someone else.  What makes you think that he'll be different the second time around?

[BuffaloKyle]

You could always take him back to your hotel for a session though if dinner went great and he seemed a lot more personable and energetic. So keep that in mind. I wouldn't mention that possibility to him though at all until you are face to face that evening. 

[MscleLovr]

One question @jetlow: Why, are you a masochist?

One answer: Just don’t. 
 

But if you go ahead and buy him an expensive dinner @jetlow and it’s a disaster (because he’s off-the-clock and just not into you), please post all the gory details here afterwards

[uwsman2]

I once had an indifferent experience with a traveling provider who had made an appointment in advance on his travel day to NYC.  He was clearly tired from travel and it was low energy.  He was very apologetic and said if I was willing to give him another chance he would make it up to me on his next trip to NYC.  I took him up on it and the experience was fantastic.  I ended up having wonderful times with him over the next several years until he stopped visiting NYC when he retired from the traveling part of the job.  

[Alex93108]

He's a nice kid this guy. He lives in a major city in Europe ( i won't mention which one )  where GHB, Tina and those 'chems' are part of a hiring scene. Very wealthy people hire a bunch of boys for a G party, and results in an overnight.  Presumably he makes a lot of money doing this. He doesn't do Tina, but has taken part in G from what i know. Been in the business for a few years now, and told me the extent of it all, inescapable over there.  The premium bookings tend to be like this.

When he saw me for my appointment he was probably at the tail end of one of these parties and not at his best. A lot of time was spent on him waiting to get hard, getting limp etc, and taking a break. He was very nervous because he could tell it wasn't going well. The appointment left me disturbed days later, not only because I didn't get my monies worth ( It was not cheap) , I was worried for this boy.  Call me a wimp, I am human.

I won't be seeing him again for a hire, and told him that, but I offered to meet him either in his city ( where I will be there in a few months) or if he comes to my town( a major US city on the east coast) for a nice dinner / drinks off the clock. I do hire internationally when I travel  and know what makes a good appointment and what makes a bad one, so I could offer advice. But mostly want to check up on him for my conscience. 

If the dinner goes well i may suggest a hire. We'll see.  So In some ways I am taking a hybrid approach as suggested by @BuffaloKyle  @uwsman2. If he's smart he'll take it seriously, now that Covid restrictions are winding down, I travel to this city on average 3-5 times a year.  Its just across the Atlantic, and i have work/personal reasons to go there regularly - a potential regular. 

But in some ways I hope he doesn't take me up on the offier - that way I can just walk away and clear my conscience.  He's an adult, despite his boyish looks, and is responsible for his own life.

 

[HoseMaster]

23 hours ago, jetlow said:

I decided that i won't meet him again for an appointment but offered to take him to dinner ( on me of course) when he is in my city, off the clock. I enjoyed talking to him more than the actual sex, I suppose that happens. 

The best appointments are the ones where the sex was amazing ( all around)  and he leaves, and I am obliged to make repeat appointments.  Can't win them all. 

 

Just out of curiosity, would he really just go to dinner with you for free even though you’re footing the bill?  I’ve never experienced this, except what’s included in an overnight.  My last night’s experience proves this (link below) and became disappointing after he started charging me near-overnight rates for a session he dragged out with a longer dinner and an unneeded movie.

 

[excelntsvc]

fool me once, shame on you ... fool me twice, shame on me

[Alex93108]

I have taken providers to dinners off the clock ( in Brazil) with an established relationship. Multiple hires. Usually after the appointment .  They love to be taken out to dinners. I don't mind..  One has exited the business, and I'm still friends with.

In the US that might not fly, but in Europe it might.  This same boy ( in Europe) asked me to get him a cab from his gym outside the center of the city, the Brazilian boys in Brazil did not do that. They got it themselves, i tipped a bit more to cover.  At the end of the day these guys are hustlers…...

@HoseMaster We need to be prepared to bail out of appointments as soon as the circumstances of the appointment change.  Quickly. Sorry you got hosed!  Now I don't feel so bad for the money I lost on this kid.

My gut feeling is to walk away from all of this.  Which I probably will. This particular European city has TONS of providers, that come and go.  

 

[Alex93108]

Update - told him my thoughts via text message and suggestions improvement so I can bury this .

Edited September 24, 2021 by jetlow

[jtwalker]

I gave a provider a second chance and it was a disaster.  I'll never do that again.

[Alex93108]

8 hours ago, jtwalker said:

I gave a provider a second chance and it was a disaster.  I'll never do that again.

So I told him concisely what areas I think he can improve on. We’ll see .

i think if anything that I learned from this experience, I will ask providers if they parTy & chems?  Anyone that answers yes gets an automatic disqualifier.  Also will ask personality questions , and expectations. 

Edited September 25, 2021 by jetlow