When a Legit Straight RMT Flirts ... ?

[orville]

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I know there are a couple of threads with similar topics but this one is about a very specific situation.

I apologize in advance if advice on how to score in this situation has been already provided but I NEED TO KNOW the HOW TO.

 

I went for a therapeutic massage with a legit RMT who happens (as far as I know) to be straight (I stalked him on Social Media).

Everything ok but he was chatty from the beginning and at some point he clearly pushed his c*ck against my elbow for longer than a minute, which felt nice. ?

Then he moved to the other side of the table to apply more pressure on my back but started moaning with every thrust, which felt nice too! ?

 

Question for Experienced Massage Clients:

 

How to know if he's doing it only for the tip (which he got from me of course) and just to keep me wanting more but with likely nothing happening in the end?

What's the best way to discover, let's say, he's bi and he's really flirting with me, and he would be open to doing more than just massage, outside of the studio?

What kind of "pick up phrase", "keywords", or "expression" should I use to suggest my intention in a discreet but ambiguous way so I don't get banned from the studio?

What kind of answer from him should I look for to confirm he would consider my proposal, I suppose with things happening at my place?

 

Many many thanks to everyone for any positive piece of advice.

 

Have a happy weekend! ?

[+ sniper]

I would not expect ANYthing outside of the studio. Was his cock hard? You could very lightly graze it and see what happens. Keep it light enough that if he reacts negatively you can play it off as accidental.

basically...match, don't escalate. This may take time to develop.

[orville]

I would not expect ANYthing outside of the studio. Was his cock hard? You could very lightly graze it and see what happens. Keep it light enough that if he reacts negatively you can play it off as accidental.

basically...match, don't escalate. This may take time to develop.

Thanks for the advice.

I literally went with zero expectations for just a 30 min massage as I was really looking for legit therapeutic massage, but then THIS happened.

I would say his c*ck was engorged enough (about 50%) to feel it was BIG and THICK and it was THERE, pushing against my elbow. I don't think he would dare to push a full hard-on on my elbow.

Right when he was doing this, he made some comments I didn't react to out of surprise. I kept silent.

Then when he moved to the other side and moaned I kept silent, probably that was my fault. I'm so bad at this!

Needless to say, I booked again with him for tomorrow, and a longer time.

If this is just his strategy to profit from me it's working, but I also don't want to waste my hopes/money in vain.

Edited October 10, 2020 by orville

[+ azdr0710]

This is almost as good as Truereview's live updates from First Class several years ago!

[+ azdr0710]

Don't be too creepy, of course. Subtle body language can help. Still on your stomach, slightly spread your legs several minutes into it. Quiet little murmurs from you could help. "That feels good". Let him lead.

 

Rebooking should definitely send a message. If nothing more happens tomorrow than happened today, he may not be ready for more. Be polite and respectful.

[orville]

This may take time to develop.

How long should I wait to make a decision?

What would be a definitive sign to know I have to make a move?

[+ sniper]

Look at some point if he's into it HE'S going to make the move. But really,every guy is different. There is no small number of bi guys who will do everything but actually ask for it/talk about it and the second you say a word, the moment is over. let your arms hang off the table, maybe graze his calf with your hand,if he seems responsive to that maybe touch it a little more and see how it progresses. You need to leave him in control and you also have to realize what he is comfortable doing is likely only a subset of what you are down for.

[+ sniper]

What are these comments you didn't react to? This will tell us more....

[orville]

slightly spread your legs several minutes into it.

I'm going for back pain. My pants were/will be on tomorrow, and my lower half fully covered with a blanket.

I don't have the courage to change my booking to a fully naked deep tissue massage tomorrow. That'd be too obvious.

Quiet little murmurs from you could help. "That feels good". Let him lead.

I'll do that with much pleasure ?

[orville]

maybe graze his calf with your hand,if he seems responsive to that maybe touch it a little more and see how it progresses.

I don't have the courage and my forearms were on the table, below the sheet, which kind of worked as a wrap around my arms.

I don't think I'd have the courage to let my arm hang out of the table to grab anything.

What are these comments you didn't react to? This will tell us more....

He was rubbing his semi-hard c*ck on my elbow. I don't remember a word of whatever he was saying.

I hope he didn't interpret my silence as disgust. I did my best and tried to keep the conversation going.

When he came back to the right side where he was previously rubbing his tool against me, he rubbed his thighs instead.

I hope he takes my rebooking for a longer time tomorrow as a sign that I would like to "feel" more.

[+ sniper]

Did he tell you to keep your pants on? Most people get naked for a massage. Something for your back would still involve the glutes usually.

[+ sniper]

The other thing I guess to know is, is this the guy's own place or a salon where he is one of multiple employees?

[orville]

Most people get naked for a massage.

I do get fully naked when I hire someone from Rentmasseur.

Did he tell you to keep your pants on?

No but I thought it was the appropriate thing since I was going for a legit back massage.

Something for your back would still involve the glutes usually.

If I knew this before! Unfortunately, I had previously discussed and specified in the intake form that the problem was located in my upper back.

[+ sniper]

Well,get naked tomorrow so he has the option to "Go there" with the glutes.

[wsc]

How about, just ask?

 

If he's doing this with you, do you think you're the first? However you put it, he's probably heard it before.

 

And if it turns into something more, you can both laugh about it later, over a nice candlelight dinner.

 

And if it doesn't, you can each get on with your lives.

 

Tempus fugit, from one who knows.

Edited October 10, 2020 by wsc

[orville]

The other thing I guess to know is, is this the guy's own place or a salon where he is one of multiple employees?

I believe he's a partner or at least one of the main masseurs. When I walked in I saw many tables on the main floor with many girls walking around but he asked me to come with him to another area of the studio with a separate room where he serviced me, behind closed doors. He also has his own separate desk from the rest of the staff.

[orville]

Well,get naked tomorrow so he has the option to "Go there" with the glutes.

I won't do it tomorrow, but I already disclosed today that I will have follow-up massages every week, for the next 4 weeks.

What would be a credible excuse for me to take my pants off, let's say, for the next 3 sessions?

[+ sniper]

Just say your hamstrings are tight or something. But if this is a place with multiple employees of both genders the odds are much lower of something happening.

[orville]

Just say your hamstrings are tight or something. But if this is a place with multiple employees of both genders the odds are much lower of something happening.

We were completely separated from the rest of the staff.

We could not even hear them, and once I was on the table he closed the door of his "room".

Edited October 9, 2020 by orville

[+ sniper]

Well then I don't think you need to say anything about getting naked. I mean he steps out of the room for you to undress and get under the sheet right?

[orville]

Well then I don't think you need to say anything about getting naked. I mean he steps out of the room for you to undress and get under the sheet right?

Yes, he gets out of the room. What do you mean by asking that? Sorry, I'm really naive as I've never been in this situation before.

[LivingnLA]

Since you mentioned he's an RMT, that's Canada, yes? The training and regulations there are the real deal. Don't over read anything about this session except for the physical contact. If he's legitimately an RMT, pressing his penis into you is not an accident, especially since he did it twice. But, as you suggest, that may be as far as he'll go. I've known plenty of attractive men and women over the years who flirt and use the temptation of their assets to make some money. Being in a separate room with a door is pretty typical in a spa or legitimate massage business, except for places with a chiro/PT focus, then you get the one big room with everyone together. Or in those Asian places with hanging dividers, but the vibe in such places is usually very clear.

 

As others have said, you need to relax and enjoy whatever you're experiencing. He needs to be driving. You say you came in for back trouble? Any good LMT/RMT will have done an assessment and identified the problem spots, which for lower back issues, are frequently related to pelvic muscles. Is he draping you with a sheet? If yes, then does he step out to give you time to undress? Then remove your pants and keep your underwear on for a session or two and see how it goes. Let him know when something feels good or he's found a trouble spot. It's not always clear to the MT. Again, be relaxed, respectful, and non-pushy, even the penile contact is enough to cause an investigation that may cost him his career. Don't be a creep about it.

[orville]

You say you came in for back trouble?

Yes, we only discussed upper back.

Is he draping you with a sheet? If yes, then does he step out to give you time to undress?

Yes, and yes.

Then remove your pants and keep your underwear on for a session or two and see how it goes.

This is now my plan! What would be a credible reason for him to expect me to take my pants off for the last 3 sessions?

[+ sniper]

Yes, he gets out of the room. What do you mean by asking that? Sorry, I'm really naive as I've never been in this situation before.

I asked because I don't understand your determination to keep your pants on tomorrow?

[+ sniper]

I don't understand why you think you need a "reason?" It's more comfortable. If you're wearing a belt it restricts your movement, he may try to incorporate stretching. You're not getting your pants wrinkled, etc.

 

He's not going to say anything about the fact your took your pants off, there's zero reason to talk about it.