Should I introduce Rent Men to someone?

[DallasClient]

I meet guys several places as a generous guy. Every once in a while I meet up with a guy that performs exceptionally well. They perform almost like a natural expert. When I'm with these guys and they seem really comfortable with our arrangement and perform so well with an older guy like myself, I feel almost obligated to tell them they could make a lot of money on rent men. I of course gain nothing from this except knowing they can earn much needed income.

 

I've had one guy who was working but lived in his car, he was extremely fit and performed like a pro. I helped him get a checking account and on rent men and he made thousands over the summer and was able to get a place and furnish it and help his family. I know that may be an exception rather than the norm.

 

Still, young men don't know about rent men and the opportunity it can bring. Should I recommend it? I certainly don't pressure it and try to give them the pros and cons.

[craigville beach]

I meet guys several places as a generous guy. Every once in a while I meet up with a guy that performs exceptionally well. They perform almost like a natural expert. When I'm with these guys and they seem really comfortable with our arrangement and perform so well with an older guy like myself, I feel almost obligated to tell them they could make a lot of money on rent men. I of course gain nothing from this except knowing they can earn much needed income.

 

I've had one guy who was working but lived in his car, he was extremely fit and performed like a pro. I helped him get a checking account and on rent men and he made thousands over the summer and was able to get a place and furnish it and help his family. I know that may be an exception rather than the norm.

 

Still, young men don't know about rent men and the opportunity it can bring. Should I recommend it? I certainly don't pressure it and try to give them the pros and cons.

 

 

how are you able to find these guys?

[DallasClient]

how are you able to find these guys?

 

I DM'd you.

[+ StLouisOct]

I can’t think of a reason not to recommend it and we’d all be grateful. The recommendation you describe certainly was beneficial to the guy. I’d also recommend to the newbie escort that he read the Forum. There’s lots to be learned about good business practices.

[DallasClient]

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[DallasClient]

I can’t think of a reason not to recommend it and we’d all be grateful. The recommendation you describe certainly was beneficial to the guy. I’d also recommend to the newbie escort that he read the Forum. There’s lots to be learned about good business practices.

 

I did check on him periodically and he said he was having an awesome time and never had that much money before. I was worried he might have a bad experience and I'd feel responsible. He is off rent men now and he thinks he may get back on.

 

He is 19 and bi. When I was telling him the different scenarios he may be asked to do, what worried him most was going out in public with another guy. He had only been in public with girlfriends. I had to assure him public displays of affection would not be likely. Sex with older gentlemen = fine, man holding his hand in public = too much to handle ?

[Guest buffwolverine]

I DM'd you.

I’d like to know too I’m in frisco just north of Dallas.

[Mocha]

Still, young men don't know about rent men and the opportunity it can bring. Should I recommend it? I certainly don't pressure it and try to give them the pros and cons.

 

When I’m not out meeting clients, most every guy I hookup with has the “attributes” to become a RentMan. I don’t introduce them to the site nor say, “this is what I do, we should work together” except on occasional circumstances. The times I did and it resulted in a meeting, it interfered with whatever tailored connection I could have had with the client. But most of the times, the guys have no interest in becoming an escort, even though they could very well be one. I actually gave a guy some money in DC because he was like 21, and his ass was so good...after he left I said hey, come back...let me give you some money. He wasn’t expecting that, and of course I never told him I’m a hooker either. Though we did talk about our doing porn experiences.

 

I know you’re saying your situation is different because you’re an older guy, who sounds like with very younger guys. So I can see why you’d suggest it.

 

Personally it’s not my place to tell what you should or shouldn’t recommend to someone. People are going to do what they do regardless. But, if you really don’t want to feel responsible for an unintended outcome (you didn’t clarify whether you’re paying these guys cash or not) perhaps they may only see you “professionally” after awhile, or maybe being in the business doesn’t turn out to be healthy for them, you may have to live with the partial responsibility.

 

At the same time, I can’t help but feel slightly skeptical about the story. If he was living in his car and making thousands, then that would insinuate he had to have been doing only outcalls. And in a flooded market like Dallas, I just can’t see that making up the bulk of appointments. On most of my visits to Dallas, people could only come to me (they couldn’t host). And I’m pretty sure hotels take up anywhere from 20-40% of what I get when traveling. I’d be in a much better position if I didn’t have to cough up for hotels when I do.

 

Not being a hater, but I just don’t always buy into these “I started advertising on RentMen and struck it rich” stories. I feel if someone is going to tell a story, share the whole picture. Based on all the stories we hear on the forum about clients flaking and even long time escorts preparing the leave the business, transparency is key.

 

Was his rates lower than the expected RentMen rates? Are these guys perhaps under-cutting other providers by charging much lower prices (e.g. $100 for full service). Then you say he was “working” (as an escort or as an employee elsewhere?), so maybe his other job may have catapulted him being able to get a furnished apartment, not so much the escort part.

 

I say if you do introduce non-advertising escorts to RentMen, make sure it’s not with the intent to suggest guys a chance to under-cut the market.

[Mocha]

But talking about making thousands, I just added up all of what I made on my latest 30 day tour. I was shocked at the number to be much higher than I felt. But when I add up, subtract and divide what I spent on hotels, not including little things here and there...it’s almost as if I only had a little over $100 a day. The numbers show I should be in a much better position than where I am now. But hard to do when such a big chunk goes to hotels.

 

A friend of mine told me of his X who was an escort and somehow was able to rig the employee discount of a particular hotel chain to his benefit. He ended up doing some jail time for that, but I’m like shit...that’s awesome, I don’t blame him.

 

It’s like when you hear about music artists, they may be making multi-million$...but after they pay everyone, tour/stylist/band/etc , they may only have hundreds left lol. Fortunately, I take it in stride considering I’ve still accomplished a lot this year.

[DallasClient]

When I met him, he was living in his car. Only after seeing me as his only benefactor for a few months did not realize he had what it takes to be successful on RM. He was very good at what he did and he only did outcalls the whole time. He ended up staying with friends on their couch as he saved his money before getting a place of his own. He found he could charge more than the normal rate and did.

[marylander1940]

I meet guys several places as a generous guy. Every once in a while I meet up with a guy that performs exceptionally well. They perform almost like a natural expert. When I'm with these guys and they seem really comfortable with our arrangement and perform so well with an older guy like myself, I feel almost obligated to tell them they could make a lot of money on rent men. I of course gain nothing from this except knowing they can earn much needed income.

 

I've had one guy who was working but lived in his car, he was extremely fit and performed like a pro. I helped him get a checking account and on rent men and he made thousands over the summer and was able to get a place and furnish it and help his family. I know that may be an exception rather than the norm.

 

Still, young men don't know about rent men and the opportunity it can bring. Should I recommend it? I certainly don't pressure it and try to give them the pros and cons.

 

Sounds like more of a client you're a sugar daddy already to some of them.

 

When I’m not out meeting clients, most every guy I hookup with has the “attributes” to become a RentMan. I don’t introduce them to the site nor say, “this is what I do, we should work together” except on occasional circumstances.

he's meeting them as generous... they're not hookups.

 

@DallasClient They're already escorting, why not telling them they could be making more money with more clients? Some might do it while others won't take the risk of over exposure and keep things they way they're. Maybe they wouldn't accept some clients and they're picky about the age and other stats of guys who would like to hire them.

 

But talking about making thousands, I just added up all of what I made on my latest 30 day tour. I was shocked at the number to be much higher than I felt. But when I add up, subtract and divide what I spent on hotels, not including little things here and there...it’s almost as if I only had a little over $100 a day. The numbers show I should be in a much better position than where I am now. But hard to do when such a big chunk goes to hotels.

 

A friend of mine told me of his X who was an escort and somehow was able to rig the employee discount of a particular hotel chain to his benefit. He ended up doing some jail time for that, but I’m like shit...that’s awesome, I don’t blame him.

 

I know guys who use the IBM corporate rate, so far one of them was asked for an ID once. I hope that's not what you're talking about.

 

You do have a point that maybe those amateur guys might do well locally for a while but if they really want to make big bucks they'll have to get the cojones to rolling the dice on trips.

 

It’s like when you hear about music artists, they may be making multi-million$...but after they pay everyone, tour/stylist/band/etc , they may only have hundreds left lol. Fortunately, I take it in stride considering I’ve still accomplished a lot this year.

 

You have a point, it's a buyers' market but if they're young, good and new won't make as much as escorts did before 2008 but I'm sure they could do pretty well even in a saturated market.

Edited September 9, 2019 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

I did check on him periodically and he said he was having an awesome time and never had that much money before. I was worried he might have a bad experience and I'd feel responsible. He is off rent men now and he thinks he may get back on.

 

He is 19 and bi. When I was telling him the different scenarios he may be asked to do, what worried him most was going out in public with another guy. He had only been in public with girlfriends. I had to assure him public displays of affection would not be likely. Sex with older gentlemen = fine, man holding his hand in public = too much to handle ?

 

Reminds me of an escort who turned down an invitation for dinner by a frequent poster because he was closeted. He was afraid that being seen with the client in public would be enough to make the gaydar beep.

 

Closeted escorts and gaydar

[Milo Farnsworth]

I DM'd you.

DM me please.

[Mocha]

Sounds like more of a client you're a sugar daddy already to some of them.

 

he's meeting them as generous... they're not hookups.

 

@DallasClient They're already escorting, why not telling them they could be making more money with more clients? Some might do it while others won't take the risk of over exposure and keep things they way they're. Maybe they wouldn't accept some clients and they're picky about the age and other stats of guys who would like to hire them.

 

 

 

I know guys who use the IBM corporate rate, so far one of them was asked for an ID once. I hope that's not what you're talking about.

 

You do have a point that maybe those amateur guys might do well locally for a while but if they really want to make big bucks they'll have to get the cojones to rolling the dice on trips.

 

 

 

You have a point, it's a buyers' market but if they're young, good and new won't make as much as escorts did before 2008 but I'm sure they could do pretty well even in a saturated market.

 

 

I don’t know the exact situation about the hotel incidents. It didn’t come directly from the person, but from a 3rd party, and now I’m a 4th party. So the exact situation leading up to is likely to be unknown.

 

I’m not “young” like 19 or 20 and new, but I still do better now than I did when I started at 19 and 20. Like I’ve said before, 30-40 is that sweetspot age where you’re young enough to be a boy, but old enough to be a daddy lol.

[Tommygunzz]

When I met him, he was living in his car. Only after seeing me as his only benefactor for a few months did not realize he had what it takes to be successful on RM. He was very good at what he did and he only did outcalls the whole time. He ended up staying with friends on their couch as he saved his money before getting a place of his own. He found he could charge more than the normal rate and did.

Sounds interesting. Would like to hear more about him from you.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

In my opinion, until the laws and stigma changes with regard to providers I wouldn't render an opinion. While there is an obvious cash advantage I suspect that the dark side is under-articulated here. Let the kid figure it out on his own so that the consequences are his own too.

[Mocha]

In my opinion, until the laws and stigma changes with regard to providers I wouldn't render an opinion. While there is an obvious cash advantage I suspect that the dark side is under-articulated here. Let the kid figure it out on his own so that the consequences are his own too.

 

I’m going to concur but go a little off topic myself.

 

I know the OP mentioned he’s generous...so somehow these guys are still “available” to being a RentMen.

 

But no matter how many guys are posting on rentmen, and twitter, and various porn/escort sites...I still feel we are a minority. And the overall gay male community still looks down on us, or just don’t support it. Hence the thread about friends outside the business who just don’t understand. I can literally go weeks and months without ever crossing paths with another gay male sex worker. Unless I really look for it. Usually on platforms dedicated to gay male escorts.

 

Sometimes I feel like we don’t even exist beyond the online realm. As prolific as we may seem on the web, and like every guy and his grandmother wants to sell dick or ass nowadays...go to any average gay bar or gay app...most of those guys are out here fucking and sucking for free, and they aren’t in any hurry to start paying or charging for it either.

 

I did a 3 way with a guy the other night who just let me and the other top pummel the s**t out of his ass. I’m like damn, he could make a killing as a porn star or escort. But everytime we try to do a video he’s like “make sure my face isn’t in it”, and we’ve talked about escort work but he’s not into doing that. And no harm no foul, but it just goes to show. This work ain’t for everybody.

Edited September 13, 2019 by Mocha

[maninsoma]

In my opinion, until the laws and stigma changes with regard to providers I wouldn't render an opinion. While there is an obvious cash advantage I suspect that the dark side is under-articulated here. Let the kid figure it out on his own so that the consequences are his own too.

 

Yes, at most I might say something like, "If you are interested in getting more clients, there are websites where you can advertise." And I would also offer to write a review of the guy, if he wanted one written. I think that while some guys would appreciate the suggestion and the offer of a review, others do want to keep what they do very much on the d/l. During the time I regularly met with a very hot college student who could have easily charged twice as much, he declined my offer of a review stating that he didn't want to have an ongoing online presence and only occasionally posted Craigslist ads when he was in town and wanting to make a little cash. I'm sure he had a little stable of regulars since I took every opportunity to meet with him when he called me during his visits with family in my area and I assume that other men who were fortunate enough to see one of his rare ads were also enamored to spend time with such a handsome a personable young man.

[DallasClient]

Most of my non-RM, amateur guys are fun and fine for me, they wouldn't make good escorts. Only a rare few have I recommended and only one took the suggestion and got on RM and did very well.

 

Anyway, the last guy I met who was great, was visiting the area and I sent him the website and let him know what it was about.

 

If I had my way, I work the Rent Men booth at the University Career Day to be honest. LoL