Bad experience

[muscmtl]

if this helps anyone then I'm good.

 

saw this escort on a chat site and started talking. He agreed to my terms: that he sucks, rim , swallows and gets bred bareback. He asked for 180 and I said I needed proof that he was muscular with a pick .

We moved to texting (hope no one is using his cell phone number, I like TextNow) he sent me pictures: muscle guy; I'm happy. He tells me that he needs to get high which is fine, the more stone the more on uninhibited.

I meet him in the lobby of this apartment building and he asked for the money, telling me that he's going to go see his dealer on the second floor, and tells me to go to his apartment that the door is open. He even asked me if I'm scared of little dogs and I smiled and said no.

I go to the apartment and it's locked...Takes me about 10 seconds before I figure out that something's wrong. Started texting him and of course, no reply. I've been had.

This asshole was good, I never suspected a thing as he had several funny stories everywhere to keep me off track.

 

I called a good friend pro escort and he told me two very important things: first he only goes for clients who want to have complete sexual relations cuz then you don't end up with an undercover cop. Second, the first thing he does when he meets his client's is to kiss the hell out of them so he can see right away if the client is genuine.

 

Note to self: never pay until in escort's apartment, and kissing has occured

[SirBillybob]

In Canada (I assume from your handle suffix 'mtl'), only a client need be wary of a law enforcement sting. It is not illegal to sell sex since 2014.

[MrMattBig]

Yup, never pay until in the presence of the escort and where the action will happen.

 

Unless the escort as a reputable reputation and that image is important to them and it's a deposit for a longer appointment.

 

Kissing before anything starts does not, at all, ensure anyone is not law enforcement. Additionally, in your description of what you were looking for you didn't mention kissing, so honestly if the escort went out of the way to kiss you it would be careless and inconsiderate on their end. Part of an escorts job should be to feel out what the client is comfortable with too, because sometimes they might have a difficult time explaining.

 

I have had clients who had avoided kissing on the lips because they have significant others and that's where they draw the line of how intimate they want to be with an escort, I have had BDSM clients whose limits were get penetrated with toys but not my actual cock and no oral because of agreements with significant others as well.

 

I love kissing, but everyone should consider it's not a catch all to ensure someone is into you, it's not wanted all the time even though all parties love kissing, it won't prove its not law enforcement, and could potentially ruin the moment.

Edited August 19, 2019 by MrMattBig

[SirBillybob]

The poster's description of his pro escort friend's two cardinal rules do not make sense at all, but I cannot comment further unless aware of the country context because the legalities vary and are nuanced.

[Trick]

if this helps anyone then I'm good.

 

saw this escort on a chat site and started talking. He agreed to my terms: that he sucks, rim , swallows and gets bred bareback.

 

I meet him in the lobby of this apartment building and he asked for the money, telling me that he's going to go see his dealer on the second floor, and tells me to go to his apartment that the door is open. He even asked me if I'm scared of little dogs and I smiled and said no.

I go to the apartment and it's locked...Takes me about 10 seconds before I figure out that something's wrong. Started texting him and of course, no reply. I've been had.

This asshole was good, I never suspected a thing as he had several funny stories everywhere to keep me off track.

 

Note to self: never pay until in escort's apartment, and kissing has occured

 

I had a similar experience in Orlando years ago. I met a guy on Hourboy and we arranged to meet at his place. When I got there, he met me out front and asked for his fee. After handing him his fee, he told me he had to go through the back door to get the dogs out of the way while I waited by the front door. Guess what? He vanished! I don’t think “ghosting” was in use back then ?

[+ Travis69]

On this forum years ago I read about a clever con. Escort arrives to hotel room of client, comes in, takes off his shoes, asks for payment and then says he needs to go get a bucket of ice. Client assumes since the escort took off his shoes all is good. Escort never comes back. Guess he left the hotel barefoot or had another pair of shoes hidden down the hall.

[marylander1940]

On this forum years ago I read about a clever con. Escort arrives to hotel room of client, comes in, takes off his shoes, asks for payment and then says he needs to go get a bucket of ice. Client assumes since the escort took off his shoes all is good. Escort never comes back. Guess he left the hotel barefoot or had another pair of shoes hidden down the hall.

 

In this case he simply asked for his money upfront to go see his neighbor drug dealer and get high... What can possibly go wrong?

 

I guess the drug dealer wasn't accepting Venmo this time and the escort was short of cash.

 

@muscmtl Despite what he told you about BB, swallowing, rimming, and getting bred (by you and others) the guy really practices safe sex!

 

Next time to make sure the guy is high bring the party favors yourself (end sarcasm). You must review him and warn others but edit all the controversial things or may not be published.

 

We could have said "I need to give my granny this money for her to buy medicines".

Edited August 19, 2019 by marylander1940

[Bearman]

In Canada (I assume from your handle suffix 'mtl'), only a client need be wary of a law enforcement sting. It is not illegal to sell sex since 2014.

 

If it's not illegal to sell sex then why is it illegal to buy sex in Canada? A seller has to have a buyer, if not why would he/she sell it? That defies logic! Canada has some strange things but this one I really don't get if it is indeed the case.

[SirBillybob]

This legislation is the Neo-abolitionism Nordic Model and is applied in Canada, Iceland and several European nations. Look it up. I am surprised you are not aware, but maybe cuz you are American and more distracted by your own developments eg SESTA/FOSTA.

 

You describe a very rudimentary grasp of commodities/utilities economics, b'man.

 

I can assure you there is nothing less logical about Canadian law compared to US law. Previous to 2014 it was less logical because the exchange was legal but communication/planning trade was indictable for both seller and buyer.

 

I am not summarizing it in detail. It is becoming de rigeur in the EU and is aimed at curbing prostitution, brokering, and trafficking while shifting culpability away from providers. It has a lot of flaws. I am not supporting it just describing it. The approach will likely not make its way into Spain, Switzerland, or Germany.

[Bearman]

This legislation is the Neo-abolitionism Nordic Model and is applied in Canada, Iceland and several European nations. Look it up. I am surprised you are not aware, but maybe cuz you are American and more distracted by your own developments eg SESTA/FOSTA.

 

You describe a very rudimentary grasp of commodities/utilities economics, b'man.

 

I can assure you there is nothing less logical about Canadian law compared to US law. Previous to 2014 it was less logical because the exchange was legal but communication/planning trade was indictable for both seller and buyer.

 

I am not summarizing it in detail. It is becoming de rigeur in the EU and is aimed at curbing prostitution, brokering, and trafficking while shifting culpability away from providers. It has a lot of flaws. I am not supporting it just describing it. The approach will likely not make its way into Spain, Switzerland, or Germany.

 

As verbose as you might be you actually don't know what ad hominem means!

[SirBillybob]

Sigh ... Seriously, BooBoo?

 

Au contraire, I do know what it means ... but now I cannot think of the next-level Latin-based expression for somebody resistant to the idea of owning that they are gratuitously argumentative from the get go.

 

Maybe you are Momma Bear? Like a portmanteau of bear and woman? Would ad ursus feminem work better?

 

However, I generally don't find females to be as frantically competitive, hostile, and closed to the idea of learning something about a theme central to a forum such as this. And they tend not be all over the map retroactively adjusting their emoticons.

[+ IronMaus]

My advice: never hire someone who admits to using meth or PNP. I use the same precaution with clients.

[Jeff Meuller]

Similar con that I once experienced. He handed me his wallet first and took some cash to secure the room. Then met at the room. Said he had to secure it and told me to hide behind the corner. He took off on a side entrance. Should have kept some of his ID when I had his wallet.

[coriolis888]

 

A similar con that I once experienced. He handed me his wallet first and took some cash to secure the room. Then met at the room. Said he had to secure it and told me to hide behind the corner.

 

He took off on a side entrance. Should have kept some of his ID when I had his wallet.

 

 

Considering the scam he pulled on you, it is a good probability his wallet contained fake ID since he let you have his wallet without restriction.

 

It goes with the territory. There are many good escorts but lots of scammers.

 

How do you know in advance who is real or fake? Tough to know until the deed is done.