Problems with Daddys Site

[Doe Be Doe]

Anyone else having problems with this site and daddysreviews? Lately, when I try to load the pages it either times out or takes forever to load. No other sites are doing this for me, so it seems unique to daddys. Anyone else having this problem?

[latopdad]

Nope--working fine for me

[Karl-G]

RE: No Problems with Daddy's Site

 

No problems. The site works fine and as usual for me.

[Charlus]

No, the site works fine for me.

[OneFinger]

Are you sure you mean this site and not the "other" one where their forums have been tits up for a couple of days??

[+ ArVaGuy]

It could be your ISP. Recently I was having issues with an airline website and could not log on to print out my boarding pass. All other websites I tired to visit worked fine but the United site was totally non functional.

 

Now this is not unusual with "dot bomb" as it’s called by many who attempt to use their lousy site. I logged on to FlyerTalk and learned that some others were having the same issues. The classic "site not found" error. As it developed anyone on Comcast could not access the United web site while everyone else on other ISP's could pull it up just fine.

 

I will leave it to some tech type to explain this better but here's what I vaguely understood the problem as it turned out. United updated their DNS server addresses. Comcast's servers were not recognizing the new IP address. Comcast and other ISP's update their systems regularly and this can cause certain web address to become blocked. It can take up to 24 hours for the blockage to be fixed through regular channels.

 

The folks at FlyerTalk were able to provide a work around which meant loading the new web addresses for United in to the DNS registry. Once this was done intermittent access via Comcast was possible. Of course 24 hours later there was no problem accessing the United site for me.

 

What this experience taught me was that I can't always assume now that there's a problem with a particular web site. It could very well mean that my ISP, Comcast, has caused the issue and the site is not at fault. x(

 

I am not saying that Daddy did or did not update the DNS server addresses for this site. Just that I've learned something new about "site not found" errors and now have one more item to consider when not successfully logging on to this or other sites.

[+ Charlie]

Hmmm. I'm wondering whether this is connected in any way to the fact that a friend of mine whose email address is comcast.net has not received any of my emails recently from my AOL address, but gets them just fine from my yahoo address.

[+ deej]

You nailed it pretty well.

 

DNS is the database that computers use to translate an address like http://www.daddysreviews.com to a bunch of 1's and 0's that computers understand. But it's a database that's spread/copied all over the world for reasons of redundancy and recoverability. And it's built like a big pyramid scheme.

 

There are a few computers at the top, and more on each level as you move down toward the bottom of the pyramid. A change in the database used by your ISP has to be propagated up the pyramid, one hop at a time, until it gets to the top and from there makes it back down through all branches of the tree.

 

This propagation can also go sideways. A change may go to another node on the same level, and flow downstream from there.

 

Every participating computer in the pyramid has its own schedule. That's why changes can take up to 72 hours to propagate all the way up to the top and all the way back down to all nodes. And it's why some people will see a site when others can't. It all depends on their location on the pyramid.

 

If it seems complicated, that's because it is. But no node in the pyramid needs to know much about how the whole works.

 

And remember the whole system (indeed, all of the internet) was designed to be distributed worldwide and to be able to survive a nuclear attack taking out big chunks of it. The systems will self-heal and figure out a way to route around the missing bits (err ... cities).

 

And, Charlie, email issues CAN be caused by DNS issues but far more often they're caused by an email server (either sender or receiver) going to sleep on the job, or having been taken offline for a time due to rampant spam or virus, etc. A support call should either tell you what's up or wake up (sometimes literally) the server operator.

[+ Charlie]

But would that explain why the only emails from me that she doesn't receive are the ones from my AOL address, even if I send her emails from there and from my yahoo address, and she receives the latter? She hasn't received the AOL emails for a couple of weeks, but she gets the yahoo emails sent the same day as the AOL messages (and other recipients get my AOL messages sent at the same time).

[+ deej]

Probably not. AOL's draconian banning can make some recipients completely unreachable. That's one reason I refuse to deal with them.

 

I'm curious whether she can send mail TO your AOL address? You DO have external email enabled don't you? (It used to be off by default.)

 

I'm also curious whether you've called AOL support to ask about this?

 

AOL goes out of their way to make the web friendly to the point of almost making it unusable because of the stuff they block. For instance they blocked a company named Pen Island for a while because their domain was penisland.com. ;-)

 

However, mail that hasn't been delivered in weeks AND hasn't bounced back as undeliverable (which would probably be in your junk mail folder?) is unusual in "normal" email systems. AOL isn't normal.

 

And AOL may be blocked at her end. Does she receive mail from other AOL correspondents? If she's on AOL too, has she accidentally blocked you? ISTR that's just a single click and she might not remember it happening by accident.

 

There are a LOT of variables.

[+ Charlie]

Her email acct is on comcast.net. I receive her email to my AOL address, but if I click on "reply" and respond to her, AOL shows my email to her as sent (and is not returned as undeliverable), but she never gets it--or else comcast puts it somewhere hidden from her. She also doesn't get my AOL email that I address directly to her. None of my other correspondents from AOL has reported this problem to me.

[+ deej]

Because your mails are not bouncing, it sounds like a too-aggressive spam filter on her end. She should be able to add you to a whitelist, but it's up to her to figure that out.

[+ ArVaGuy]

Deej,

 

Thanks for the epxlanation. And to think Al Gore thought that up all by himself. LOL :+

[+ deej]

>And to think Al Gore thought that

>up all by himself. LOL :+

 

Al Gore gets a lot of grief for claiming he invented the internet, but he never said it. You can find this on Snopes and various other mythbuster sites.

 

But as the senior Senator from Tennessee Mr. Gore was the primary sponsor of the spending bill that created ARPAnet, the predecessor of the internet.

 

So he's castigated for something he never claimed, yet he actually did have a role in creating it. Or at least paying for it.

 

Strange, but true.

[+ ArVaGuy]

>>And to think Al Gore thought that

>>up all by himself. LOL :+

>

>Al Gore gets a lot of grief for claiming he invented the

>internet, but he never said it. You can find this on Snopes

>and various other mythbuster sites.

>

>But as the senior Senator from Tennessee Mr. Gore was the

>primary sponsor of the spending bill that created ARPAnet, the

>predecessor of the internet.

>

>So he's castigated for something he never claimed, yet he

>actually did have a role in creating it. Or at least paying

>for it.

>

>Strange, but true.

 

Yeah, I know but I just couldn't resist. :-)