Trouble with Fetish request

[playwrestler]

I have a very specific request which I've explained in detail when hiring very well reviewed escorts -- and each time it's either been ignored or only indulged in for a short time even after reiterating the request. I'm wondering if it's just too weird or off-putting.

It's pretty simple. I love to be held in Head-scissors and body-scissors. That's it. Nothing too strenuous. I explain that I'd like it to be more of a boyfriend kind of thing. ie: Having the hold applied gently and then very gradually ratcheted up until I tap -- at which time I don't want to be released, I just want the pressure to ease up... and then start the process all over again.

I'm wondering if this is either too specific... or if it just comes off as unpleasant to the escort. Even though I'm told that it'll be fine and perfectly doable, it never works out that way.

I'm in good enough shape that I'm sure they're not afraid of hurting me -- and I assure them I'm not into pain anyway.

I also explain that I have tremendous erectile problems so the fact that I'm not visibly getting excited doesn't mean I'm not enjoying myself as I assure them I am. But it always ends up being mostly hugging and kissing... which I like, don't get me wrong... but it's not what I mainly want. I even get between their legs and get them into position etc etc... and very quickly they maneuver it back into kissing and hugging.

I'm now thinking it may be a more unpleasant scene that I think it is.

[playwrestler]

There have also been a couple of escorts in the past few years where this request has been wonderfully fulfilled -- unfortunately they're both in California and it's been years since I've made the trip out there. They remain wonderful memories!

[GTMike]

Where do you live? I find that really hard to believe you'd have trouble establishing a pretty healthy percentage success rate of willing partners.

[playwrestler]

Where do you live? I find that really hard to believe you'd have trouble establishing a pretty healthy percentage success rate of willing partners.

 

I'm in Chicago -- but that said I only hire when I'm traveling as I'm married pretty much 24/7 -- So when I travel (not often) I usually look for traveling escorts as they're the ones with reliable reviews. Maybe since they think they'll never see me again they don't put as much effort in. Just a guess.

[BabyBoomer]

I'm in Chicago -- but that said I only hire when I'm traveling as I'm married pretty much 24/7 -- So when I travel (not often) I usually look for traveling escorts as they're the ones with reliable reviews.

 

Try contacting https://rentmen.eu/TristanBaldwin

 

He's also a member here @tristanbaldwin

 

Be patient. Check out his travel schedule.

 

Good luck.

 

~Boomer~

[Zapped]

So if one is not used to wrestling, would these holds be difficult to maintain, either physically or emotionally?

[hypothetically]

I have a very specific request which I've explained in detail when hiring very well reviewed escorts -- and each time it's either been ignored or only indulged in for a short time even after reiterating the request. I'm wondering if it's just too weird or off-putting.

It's pretty simple. I love to be held in Head-scissors and body-scissors. That's it. Nothing too strenuous. I explain that I'd like it to be more of a boyfriend kind of thing. ie: Having the hold applied gently and then very gradually ratcheted up until I tap -- at which time I don't want to be released, I just want the pressure to ease up... and then start the process all over again.

I'm wondering if this is either too specific... or if it just comes off as unpleasant to the escort. Even though I'm told that it'll be fine and perfectly doable, it never works out that way.

I'm in good enough shape that I'm sure they're not afraid of hurting me -- and I assure them I'm not into pain anyway.

I also explain that I have tremendous erectile problems so the fact that I'm not visibly getting excited doesn't mean I'm not enjoying myself as I assure them I am. But it always ends up being mostly hugging and kissing... which I like, don't get me wrong... but it's not what I mainly want. I even get between their legs and get them into position etc etc... and very quickly they maneuver it back into kissing and hugging.

I'm now thinking it may be a more unpleasant scene that I think it is.

 

I wouldn’t go to such great lengths as to say it’s ”unpleasant,”’ but it is certainly an uncommon request. A request that is likely agreed upon because it reads like a simple request. And you speak about it very casually because it is what you like, but it is actually light kink/fetish, and that’s not everyone’s jam. You hired “well reviewed” escorts, awesome, but was their niche fetish/wrestling?

 

Whenever someone contacts me and has a request that I feel I can’t properly execute (unfamiliarity/inexperience) or that I simply do not want to do, I either politely decline and make suggestions on how to find a more suitable candidate or I ask for clarification or an example (video).

 

I think it’s imperative you execute this request properly. I would lead with this (after inquiring about their familiarity/experience with wrestling) and follow with the BFE (we know how to do that already).

 

Also, I think it’s important you are transparent with a potential hire about previous failed attempts per your scissor request to really stress the importance. In communicating your ED, I also think you should explain to an escort that this has led to “mostly kissing” which you like, but that’s not what the hell you’re paying for (don’t say it like that, obvi, lol).

 

Clients love to provide a plethora of details, details that have very little significance to our session but fail to provide details that will aid us in helping you get off. We’re experts on sex but we are not clairvoyant, contrary to belief.

 

So no, your request isn’t weird or unpleasant, it’s uncommon. Work on delivery, provide examples. Good luck!

[LivingnLA]

@playwrestler, that's a very specific request and one that requires someone who knows what they're doing. You don't want to be injured by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. A professional like @tristanbaldwin, who has a wrestling background was the first person I thought of as I read your post.

 

Something else you might want to consider, if you're basically looking for purely a wrestling scene, why not look for a fighter instead of an escort? Have you heard of the Meet Fighters website?

Edited April 7, 2019 by LivingnLA

[playwrestler]

Thanks for all your replies... a lot to think on and consider!

[torvc]

Hey @playwrestler - I think that the best Headscissor experience (and body scissor) with an escort was Jeremy Lee:

https://rent.men/jeremylee

 

He scissored hard, crushed my head into his pecs it was hot. He's clearly muscular but isn't tall. So if you want someone tall he's not your guy... but I was soooo turned on the entire time. I told him it was the best scissor / muscle dom experience I had and he said that when he first got into the scene he was very unsure about it all.. but he's really worked hard to learn. And I would say it was hot.

 

Shredz did as well, but not quite as savagely as I wanted.

https://rent.men/Shredz

 

I've met with other guys. And we "wrestled" but it wasn't savage or like the fantasy (or some of the hot videos you see). And I've had dom experiences - not muscle domination, mind you, but good mind-fuck domination from guys who are buff. Mike Masters was one of the hottest mind bending dom scenes I ever had. And he choked me out - which was hot (no one else would do that for me, sadly), but he didn't head scissor me.

 

I've also been bear hugged by guys and had my ribs popped. I feel badly because I think I really scared one guy and he hasn't responded to me since. But I LOVED it. Sure it hurt for months, but, the memory in my head is so fucking hot now.

 

I have the exact same problems. I've met with guys and most are unwilling or don't know how. I try to explain to some before we meet how important it is, and even when we get together, but it doesn't always work.

 

I've almost given up, tbh.

 

I will say I used to wrestle with guys from global fight. I had some incredible scissor experiences with them. wrestled with steeltrap back in the late 90s (that was a great scissor experience) and I also was scissored by big calves (he popped my ribs and it hurt for two months - but I LOVED it).

 

I would love to find guys like beyondgenetics (or whatever his name is) I've seen videos of him knocking guys out with headscissors and that looks FANTASTIC! But I don't know if he does that scene any more.

[playwrestler]

Hey @playwrestler - I think that the best Headscissor experience (and body scissor) with an escort was Jeremy Lee:

https://rent.men/jeremylee

 

He scissored hard, crushed my head into his pecs it was hot. He's clearly muscular but isn't tall. So if you want someone tall he's not your guy... but I was soooo turned on the entire time. I told him it was the best scissor / muscle dom experience I had and he said that when he first got into the scene he was very unsure about it all.. but he's really worked hard to learn. And I would say it was hot.

 

Shredz did as well, but not quite as savagely as I wanted.

https://rent.men/Shredz

 

I've met with other guys. And we "wrestled" but it wasn't savage or like the fantasy (or some of the hot videos you see). And I've had dom experiences - not muscle domination, mind you, but good mind-fuck domination from guys who are buff. Mike Masters was one of the hottest mind bending dom scenes I ever had. And he choked me out - which was hot (no one else would do that for me, sadly), but he didn't head scissor me.

 

I've also been bear hugged by guys and had my ribs popped. I feel badly because I think I really scared one guy and he hasn't responded to me since. But I LOVED it. Sure it hurt for months, but, the memory in my head is so fucking hot now.

 

I have the exact same problems. I've met with guys and most are unwilling or don't know how. I try to explain to some before we meet how important it is, and even when we get together, but it doesn't always work.

 

I've almost given up, tbh.

 

I will say I used to wrestle with guys from global fight. I had some incredible scissor experiences with them. wrestled with steeltrap back in the late 90s (that was a great scissor experience) and I also was scissored by big calves (he popped my ribs and it hurt for two months - but I LOVED it).

 

I would love to find guys like beyondgenetics (or whatever his name is) I've seen videos of him knocking guys out with headscissors and that looks FANTASTIC! But I don't know if he does that scene any more.

 

Thank you torvc for such a great reply! Though I'm not into as much pain as you seem to love, I do get the thrill... and remembered pain can be sexy especially as you describe it. I'm more into the fantasy of wrestling and domination than into the real thing. A few years ago I met with Tristan Baldwin and that was fantastic!

[+ Eric Hassan]

i really like what @hypothetically had to say. i would add that you might want to let your guy know that it's ok if this part of the session takes a fair amount (or most or all) of the time. i don't know for sure, but i wonder if some of the guys don't go full throttle with it because they think it's just one thing you want for a minute, then move on to the other things. it's also ok to say things like "i don't need to be kissed much" or "we don't need to do anyting sexual like such-and-such" if that helps you communicate your preferences.

[Musclejake]

I have a very specific request which I've explained in detail when hiring very well reviewed escorts -- and each time it's either been ignored or only indulged in for a short time even after reiterating the request. I'm wondering if it's just too weird or off-putting.

It's pretty simple. I love to be held in Head-scissors and body-scissors. That's it. Nothing too strenuous. I explain that I'd like it to be more of a boyfriend kind of thing. ie: Having the hold applied gently and then very gradually ratcheted up until I tap -- at which time I don't want to be released, I just want the pressure to ease up... and then start the process all over again.

I'm wondering if this is either too specific... or if it just comes off as unpleasant to the escort. Even though I'm told that it'll be fine and perfectly doable, it never works out that way.

I'm in good enough shape that I'm sure they're not afraid of hurting me -- and I assure them I'm not into pain anyway.

I also explain that I have tremendous erectile problems so the fact that I'm not visibly getting excited doesn't mean I'm not enjoying myself as I assure them I am. But it always ends up being mostly hugging and kissing... which I like, don't get me wrong... but it's not what I mainly want. I even get between their legs and get them into position etc etc... and very quickly they maneuver it back into kissing and hugging.

I'm now thinking it may be a more unpleasant scene that I think it is.

I’m not sure why this would be a problem for anyone...

[SirBillybob]

I wonder if sustained holds, in contrast to those in conventional sport aimed at a rapid conclusion, are simply more taxing and depleting for the provider than we might acknowledge. The contract:expand time ratio is different.

 

The energy for a fast choke-out may be less than the energy for a slower, regulated, pre-asphyx hold. The graph may not be straightline. Elapsed time may elevate consumption curvilinearly.

 

Mental energy (the cognitive processing alertness grade assuring safety while satisfying a unique request on which kink arousal is predicated) also competes for the same effort pool as physical energy. This is empirically proven, that the components of expenditure trend to zero-sum.

 

Another Example ... Do alternate-side bilateral standing dumbbell bicep curls at a set weight with arbitrary set reps (left, right, left ... ). Then when rested or at the same baseline energy pool, do unilateral curls, flexing and releasing the same number of reps one side while holding the opposite arm flexed at 90 degrees holding the same weight stationary, then change sides and do the same. Identical weight and number of reps for each arm in the two models, but a different experience of strain and energy expenditure. And not the same net work as the first sequence. The non-rep arm is stationary for a time at the mid- point juncture of movement, while not sharing the same work simultaneously. Also requires more mental attention. The rep work sustain, plus the added mental energy to attentively hold a second physical task stationary perpendicularly, compete differently for available resources compared to the first sequence.

 

My trainer used to have me do bosu-ball push-ups for a duration versus holding a mid-range position. Naturally my body started involuntary trembling far sooner in the latter.

Edited April 28, 2019 by SirBIllybob

[musclvr]

I have a very specific request which I've explained in detail when hiring very well reviewed escorts -- and each time it's either been ignored or only indulged in for a short time even after reiterating the request. I'm wondering if it's just too weird or off-putting.

It's pretty simple. I love to be held in Head-scissors and body-scissors. That's it. Nothing too strenuous. I explain that I'd like it to be more of a boyfriend kind of thing. ie: Having the hold applied gently and then very gradually ratcheted up until I tap -- at which time I don't want to be released, I just want the pressure to ease up... and then start the process all over again.

I'm wondering if this is either too specific... or if it just comes off as unpleasant to the escort. Even though I'm told that it'll be fine and perfectly doable, it never works out that way.

I'm in good enough shape that I'm sure they're not afraid of hurting me -- and I assure them I'm not into pain anyway.

I also explain that I have tremendous erectile problems so the fact that I'm not visibly getting excited doesn't mean I'm not enjoying myself as I assure them I am. But it always ends up being mostly hugging and kissing... which I like, don't get me wrong... but it's not what I mainly want. I even get between their legs and get them into position etc etc... and very quickly they maneuver it back into kissing and hugging.

I'm now thinking it may be a more unpleasant scene that I think it is.

If you are ever in the Miami area, try this Caleb, who also wrestles for Thunders Arena as scrappy. He's straight (I think). He does meet-ups for muscle worship and wrestling, including submission holds. A really nice guy too. Unless you don't want him to be.

 

https://www.thebestflex.com/profile/Caleb