the good old days in NYC...

[RockHard]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

"Group, anonymous, and/or public sex did not cause AIDS. A virus did."

 

But group, anonymous, and/or public sex behavior spread the killer virus and the spread continues. Spare me your self-righteous reprimands, hypocrite.

 

Furthermore, I do not wish to employ your writing services. Portend has more than one meaning and I know the meaning.

 

You sure do use the word "moral," and many variations, a lot, Tom. I understand your discomfort, dear.

 

"Ain't this a website for hookers and guys that want to hire them?"

 

I guess that depends on how you define "male escort." (I'm sure Tom can provide a definition.) But, according to my dictionary, not all of them are created equal.

[+ Tom Isern]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

You are wrong, as usual, Rockhead.

 

Group, anonymous, and public sex do(es) NOT spread the virus.

 

UNSAFE sex (between persons where at least one is positive) spreads the virus.

 

Take your ignorant bullying and narrow tiny mind to a Christian fundamentalist discussion board where you will be right at home.

[RockHard]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

"Group, anonymous, and public sex do(es) NOT spread the virus. UNSAFE sex (between persons where at least one is positive) spreads the virus."

 

Gee, I wonder where unsafe sex is most likely to occur? Oh, and didn't you mean to say "between persons where at least one "knows" he's positive?" Convenient omission, oh smart, brilliant, wise one.

 

You have some nerve using the term "ignorant bullying" on me, sweetie, since you're the escort queen who adorns that throne (surrounded by mirrors, no less).

 

Christian fundamentalism? How sad. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Your feelings about God, Christ, and morals are quite clear. Your ego is so big you have no clue how offensive you are. Of course, your misery is all God's fault. After all, I hear there are no Piers and Mine Shaft in Heaven.

[+ deej]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

>"Group, anonymous, and public sex do(es)

>NOT spread the virus. UNSAFE sex (between persons where at

>least one is positive) spreads the virus."

>

>Gee, I wonder where unsafe sex is most likely to occur?

 

In the bedroom between two people, if the reports I've been reading are to be believed.

 

>and didn't you mean to say "between persons where at least one

>"knows" he's positive?"

 

Actually, the most dangerous situation is where one DOES NOT know he's positive. And it's far too common, which lead to the CDC to call for mandatory HIV testing for everyone over 13 years of age last week.

 

Perhaps you missed it?

 

You're trying to defend an indefensible position, Rock, and you're increasingly slipping into half-fact to do so. At this rate, you'll be born again in no time. Jesus welcomes you on the bus, I hear.

[+ Tom Isern]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

First, I did NOT say “between persons where one ‘knows’ he is positive”…maybe you should actually read people’s posts before jumping into one of your arrogant little hissy-fits.

 

Rockhead, if you knew ANYTHING about HIV transmission you would know that a person’s number of sexual partners is NOT significantly related to HIV transmission. Drug use, self-esteem, level of education, cultural background and assumptions about the role of sex in relationships…many factors affect HIV transmission rates. Several years ago I took a class at Columbia in which we studied HIV transmission. I was surprised to learn that HIV is frequently spread between partners in serial monogamous relationships. Public establishments can be (as they frequently are in Europe) spaces where safe sex is promoted and expected.

 

The Center for Disease Control

 

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/msm.htm

 

states that significant factors involved in the transmission of HIV appear to be substance abuse, complacency about risk, unkown HIV sero-status, the internet, social discrimination and cultural issues, lack of communication and psychosocial problems.

 

Group sex doesn’t even get mentioned. Not a word about the number of partners or promiscuity. Public or private—the site notes that the internet facilitates the spread of HIV by allowing partners to meet in a forum where they won’t be rejected for seeking unsafe sex. Implication: the privacy of the bedroom, one-on-one, can be a risky place indeed.

 

In the 10 years I’ve lived in NYC I’ve been to (and even hosted) many group sex parties. Most were safe, sane, and hot as hell.

 

Admit it Rockhead, you’re just jealous that your life is soooo tedious and boring! Rather than sitting at home spreading your ignorance all over internet message boards, why don't you go out and get laid. Or hire an escort and contribute something to the gay economy. It really seems that you need to--all that pent up frustration just bursting out in self-righteous pontification.

 

P.S. My beautiful boyfriend of four years whom I met on MANHUNT is on his way over now. I'm going to get laid. And I'm NOT going to be thinking of you.

[+ purplekow]

RE: Ahh, those good old days...

 

>" Your feelings about God, Christ,

>and morals are quite clear. Your ego is so big you have no

>clue how offensive you are. Of course, your misery is all

>God's fault. After all, I hear there are no Piers and Mine

>Shaft in Heaven.

 

 

Those voices in your head telling you what heaven looks like? When it comes to being offensive and egotistical, I my opinion, anyone who professes to know the unknowable and espouse it as irrefutable ranks high on that list.

[RockHard]

RE: responding to deej.

 

">and didn't you mean to say "between persons where at least one

>"knows" he's positive?"

 

From deej: "Actually, the most dangerous situation is where one DOES NOT know he's positive. And it's far too common, which lead to the CDC to call for mandatory HIV testing for everyone over 13 years of age last week."

 

THAT was my point, deej. I didn't feel like being so obvious (even though I thought I had been) and I realize, spelling it out in blazing detail, will help others. Thank you for making my point clear even though you managed to miss it.

 

The purpose of my sarcastic sentence, "Oh, and didn't you mean to say "between persons where at least one "knows" he's positive?" Convenient omission, oh smart, brilliant, wise one." was to illustrate Isern's "absence" or "disregard" for "the most dangerous situation."

 

From Isern: "First, I did NOT say “between persons where one ‘knows’ he is positive”…maybe you should actually read people’s posts before jumping into one of your arrogant little hissy-fits."

 

Obviously, the entire point and message flew over Tom's head because he thought I misquoted him. That's too funny. Now I know why FinFanFoom takes a break from this place.

 

From deej: "You're trying to defend an indefensible position, Rock, and you're increasingly slipping into half-fact to do so."

 

Actually, I don't really care about this thread and/or folks who have fond memories of sex pre-AIDS. I'm not trying to do anything accept get Tom to expose more of himself, which he happily does because of his King Kong-sized ego.

 

I, for one, do not see any disconnect between being a gay man of faith and the enjoyment of sex, even sex with an adult escort. Many would not characterize me as being particularly religious but I do respect gay men of faith and those who choose to be active participants in a religion. Tom has no such respect. Tom's angry, bitter view of the word "moral," and all of it's derivatives, shows up often in his posts. And he's oblivious to how offensive his remarks are to those gay men who do not share his view. Tom is an ignorant, blowhard hypocrite and there's nothing worse than a two-faced blowhard who works to take your money.

 

My work is done here.

[RockHard]

RE: Ahh, those good old days in Heaven.

 

It was a joke, dear.

[+ Tom Isern]

RE: responding to deej.

 

Once again, Rockhead, you have completely lost the argument and so you turn to bile and invective. You’re as predictable as a comic strip!

 

If it is true that Flim Flam Fool has abandoned us—all for the better. His posts were as hate-filled, narrow-minded, and ignorant as yours. Maybe you would like to follow his superior lead? Go swim with some sharks who have real teeth and see if you can pick up a few pointers? Maybe check out a remedial English course? Get laid a few times so you won’t be so bitter? Life is full of opportunities!