NO-SHOWS/SHORT NOTICE CANCELLATIONS

[Mitch]

How do you deal with clients who cancel on short notice or no-show for appointments? Do you institute a cancellation fee (or kill fee) when they attempt to book with you again? Do you simply refuse to see them?

Edited August 8, 2018 by Mitch

[rvwnsd]

Not an escort here, but a client. On a few occasions I have had to cancel. One time, I had to do so from my car as I was driving to an appointment. Suffice to say something I ate did not agree with me. Each time the escort was an absolute prince about my issue. I would have understood if the next time they charged me a deposit or a cancellation fee, but they did not do so. I made certain to leave a little extra in the envelope.

[bnm73]

RIDDLE ME THIS:

 

How do you deal with clients who cancel or no-show for appointments? Do you institute a cancellation fee (or kill fee) when they attempt to book with you again? Do you simply refuse to see them?

 

Well, if you don't want to business with them ever, then tell them they have to pay for the time they didn't see you....they'll get the message and move on. And you'll end up getting a ping on your reputation, probably.

 

Things sometimes happen....and people sometimes flake. You'd be perfectly within your rights to block their number or put them on your "not gonna do it" list.

 

Or you can treat it like a date. Send them a message saying you expected to see them and they didn't show....are they o.k. or did something come up?

 

How you respond is up to you. I would refrain from being too bitchy, though, if this is a new client.

[Mitch]

There’s a difference between a cancellation and a short-notice or no show. Some may suggest to placate and be “unwaveringly understanding”, but if that escort had made ample concessions to see the client, I’m sure they wouldn’t be so lax about it. I’ve heard stories of escorts driving 3 hours, getting a hotel, and the client cancelling.

 

I have a message I send out with my rates, that includes my cancellation policy. Not that I’m unwaveringly about enforcing it, but that they ARE EDUCATED that I set boundaries in my business, and treat it seriously.

 

The only time I can be understanding of a client flaking, is understanding that they didn’t know how inconvenient it is to cancel or no show a session at the last minute. Once they saw the light, they changed the error of their ways.

 

Remember, in the grand scheme of things: most guys outside the sex biz, view sex as merely a “thought”. It’s up to you to make them see it as important as a dentist appointment, doctor visit or Airline ticket.

 

And if air traffic delays due to weather or unforeseen circumstances causes the escort to need to accommodate the client at a different time, clients can’t use that as a free pass to cancel. They still have to wait for the flight (escort) they booked.

 

You made an important distinction at the start of your reply, edited the thread title! Also, a form message is a great practice, I dig it.

[Kris Parkes]

Shit happens, if they cancel, I understand, and will allow them to book again. But if he/she is a no-show, with no apology nor viable explanation. They don't get a second chance, they are officially shut down. In either case, I don't send requests for payments of any kind.

[adventurous old guy]

No-shows put the number online if they don’t apologize, when I cancel I send a cancellation payment of $50.

 

Many other guys have said the same on here, some even bragged about paying the full fare because they are so generous... where are they now?

So... I'm one of the guys who pays the negotiated fee when I have to cancel on short notice. Not bragging about it, nor do I see it as an act of generosity. As a consultant I sell my time too, so for me this is a matter of respect. And karma -- I do onto others as I hope they'd do onto me and others.

 

What goes around comes around. My schedule can hit the skids if I miss a plane or have a more than anticipated time-c0nsuming client. As a practical matter, it does help create some trust and willingness of the part of the escort to accommodate me in the future. Twice I've had guys decline the offer for payment because they appreciated the gesture, and then change their schedules for me. Doesn't always happen, but feels good when it does.

[marylander1940]

So... I'm one of the guys who pays the negotiated fee when I have to cancel on short notice. Not bragging about it, nor do I see it as an act of generosity. As a consultant I sell my time too, so for me this is a matter of respect. And karma -- I do onto others as I hope they'd do onto me and others.

 

What goes around comes around. My schedule can hit the skids if I miss a plane or have a more than anticipated time-c0nsuming client. As a practical matter, it does help create some trust and willingness of the part of the escort to accommodate me in the future. Twice I've had guys decline the offer for payment because they appreciated the gesture, and then change their schedules for me. Doesn't always happen, but feels good when it does.

 

you're a gentleman!

[down_to_business]

Last 2 appointments I have made, with 2 different well reviewed escorts, both cancelled. One was day of, one was a couple of days notice. I appreciated them telling me instead of just not showing up, but it sure makes me question why I even bother with this hobby anymore.

Neither paid me a cancellation fee or offered to make it up to me .

[marylander1940]

Last 2 appointments I have made, with 2 different well reviewed escorts, both cancelled. One was day of, one was a couple of days notice. I appreciated them telling me instead of just not showing up, but it sure makes me question why I even bother with this hobby anymore.

Neither paid me a cancellation fee or offered to make it up to me .

 

Were they visitors or locals?

 

Did they offer to reschedule?

[down_to_business]

Were they visitors or locals?

 

 

Did they offer to reschedule?

 

One was visiting my city. The other, I was a traveler to his city.

 

Not applicable for either. I am actually going to be in the same city again with one of the two, but if I do hire this time, I will be looking elsewhere. But enough about me .

[bnm73]

One was visiting my city. The other, I was a traveler to his city.

 

Not applicable for either. I am actually going to be in the same city again with one of the two, but if I do hire this time, I will be looking elsewhere. But enough about me .

 

Well, if someone cancelled on you before, that's understandable, I suppose. "Once bitten, twice shy," and all that. They DID have the courtesy to let you know, though. There's nothing wrong with testing different waters, though.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

My business has, arguably, a similar/parallel circumstance which is dependent upon people honoring their commitments, and when they don’t, blame can be found on both sides of the equation. For the most part, business proceeds smoothly. When it doesn’t (over the years) I’ve adopted the following point of view a) not to colorize the whole business based on the actions of a few b) accept the loss as part of doing business and c) forgive and move on. In general, the success of the business is my overall reward.

[adventurous old guy]

One was visiting my city. The other, I was a traveler to his city.

 

Not applicable for either. I am actually going to be in the same city again with one of the two, but if I do hire this time, I will be looking elsewhere. But enough about me .

That sucks

[Mitch]

Last 2 appointments I have made, with 2 different well reviewed escorts, both cancelled. One was day of, one was a couple of days notice. I appreciated them telling me instead of just not showing up, but it sure makes me question why I even bother with this hobby anymore.

Neither paid me a cancellation fee or offered to make it up to me .

 

These situations don't quite apply to the question I posted, but absolutely, if you're pissed about the cancellations, you might as well look elsewhere. Otherwise, that resentment might spoil what should be a good time. Regarding the last line of your reply, I think you're drawing a false equivalency between a client canceling and a provider canceling. Neither situation is ideal, but the stakes are slightly different. Unless you were just being cheeky, in which case, .

[Mitch]

Last 2 appointments I have made, with 2 different well reviewed escorts, both cancelled. One was day of, one was a couple of days notice. I appreciated them telling me instead of just not showing up, but it sure makes me question why I even bother with this hobby anymore.

Neither paid me a cancellation fee or offered to make it up to me .

 

These situations don't quite apply to the question I posted, but absolutely, if you're pissed about the cancellations, you might as well look elsewhere. Otherwise, that resentment might spoil what should be a good time. Regarding the last line of your reply, I think you're drawing a false equivalency between a client canceling and a provider canceling. Neither situation is ideal, but the stakes are slightly different. Unless you were just being cheeky, in which case, .

[MiamiLooker]

Not bragging about it...

Are you absolutely sure you're not bragging???

[MiamiLooker]

Not bragging about it...

Are you absolutely sure you're not bragging???

[adventurous old guy]

Are you absolutely sure you're not bragging???

Don't think so -- main goal was to make the fairness point -- but if that's how it strikes you I guess everyone's free to draw their own conclusions.

[MiamiLooker]

Don't think so -- main goal was to make the fairness point -- but if that's how it strikes you I guess everyone's free to draw their own conclusions.

I didn’t think you were bragging. But I’ll bet if mary provided links to the posts in which he says some posters were bragging, their posts would be just like yours: a simple statement with no indication of bragging.

[MikeSinz]

I will say this if a client Does a no show and doesn't text or call I put him in my phone as a no show, and probably will never take another text or call from them ever again. it's just my way. Because I do set my sessions up by appointment and if someone doesn't have the common courtesy to call or text then they just messed up for life with me. I don't have time to play other people's games. Now if there is a call or text saying they will be late or have to reschedule that's ok. Clients dont want there time waisted and neither do I. I'm a very easy going guy but I dont like no shows, my phone is full of blocked clients.

And dont forget that alot of clients like to price shop and may set up with you but get 20 off by another provider and guess what they forgot all about you and not call or text to cancel. It's the nature of the game.

But here recently I've had a lot of no shows. And because of the new websites that are coming out since the shutdown of back page you come across so many people that don't know what they're doing and don't know etiquette. I ran across people that like to get very very very explicit, Which to me I don't like. I have 2 friends that just got locked up By a cop that posed as a client, So getting explicit with a provider is not something you should do, Maybe you should just read the profile and gather from it what you want.

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[spider]

I’m in such a situation now. Today is Monday, I made an appointment with a repeat guy yesterday. It’s for Thursday. I have a little tickle in my throat this afternoon although I was fine yesterday. Probably only allergies, but if I’m not well tomorrow I’ll cancel to give him the time back. Or, I could wait until Wednesday to decide. He’ll understand, but I feel bad.

[+ freecahill1965]

I have not shown up only once in the past year and I sent the escort $200. I was on my way and daughter had a seizure. I had to go home. I on the other hand have been flaked by 5 escorts on the past 6 months. I mean like I am there after a 30 or 40min drive sometimes at 5pm in Boston on Friday after paying $20 for parking then I am flaked on. I do not think there is any easy answer.

[adventurous old guy]

I have not shown up only once in the past year and I sent the escort $200. I was on my way and daughter had a seizure. I had to go home. I on the other hand have been flaked by 5 escorts on the past 6 months. I mean like I am there after a 30 or 40min drive sometimes at 5pm in Boston on Friday after paying $20 for parking then I am flaked on. I do not think there is any easy answer.

I'm with you. No easy answer but think you did the right thing. Hopefully what goes around comes around for you.

[tenderloin]

Last minute shit happens to everyone at one point or the other - that's life. Especially when trying to arrange encounters in a surreptitious manner. To me it is all about communication, and that is the difference between cancellation and "flaking." The few times I have cancelled, I gave at least a day's notice.

 

But I have experienced at least 6 times when an escort just stopped communicating and didn't show up. Even a simple confirmation that the guy is definitely not going to show would be useful ("can't make it -- so sorry"). Years ago, in a Dallas hotel, I couldn't sleep because I had given the guy my room number and I was sure that, any minute, he would show up at my door even though I hadn't heard from him for hours. I think I finally succumbed to a deep sleep somewhere around 3:30....

[MassageDrew]

How do you deal with clients who cancel on short notice or no-show for appointments? Do you institute a cancellation fee (or kill fee) when they attempt to book with you again? Do you simply refuse to see them?

 

That would be hard to enforce for cash payments. But even if you accept credit cards it would be hard to find repeat customers. Your ad should disclose that you intend to charge them for last minute cancellation. It would be a bad idea to do so without a fair warning. Even then, good luck getting repeat clients.

 

As for avoiding the client? That’s up to you. Let’s say you’re experiencing a slow day/week and this client tries to contact you for an appointment. Do you still ignore him? My advice to you, and I am a client, is to just let it go. I would say yes if the client has done it to you multiple times. Word gets around in this forum as you know which could go against you.