Experience with weekend and longer vacation hires

[hwic04]

Hey, poincare. I’m looking at hiring for an extended trip. Love to know who the instagram model and porn stars are that you mentioned. Please PM me if you prefer.

[Gymowner]

I put the onus on the escort. I have never done anything but an hour session. Falling asleep and spending a huge amount of money to hear someone snore doesn't appeal to me. If I need cuddling my dog is perfectly happy to snuggle up on the bed when going to sleep. Lol I had an escort once ask me with a late session if I wanted to do an overnight. He would reduce his rate. I thought about it and said "well I don't care to sleep with you and for what I want, let's set up a session in the morning and I get what I want for about half of the overnight "discounted" rate." He chuckled and said sure, so we met again the next day.

 

I have a very regular escort that we have gotten to know each other and have alot of similar interests. I offered to take him on a 2 day trip to a place he likes. He said sure. I defined the parameters that any costs that he would incur in his day on our trip that he would not at home I would pay for. Hotel, gas, gym fee etc. Food he would eat at home so I told him he would cover that himself. Will I pay for a nice restaurant one evening...sure.What I am willing to cover is any and all of the sessions at normal rate HE wants to have so he can make his money. If he wants one session...fine. if he wants 6 sessions in the two days...fine. that way he has the freedom to make the money he wants without losing any money from client work at home. Fair for him, fair for me and we both get a mini vacay away from our daily lives.

 

I cant imagine just paying someone just for their time. Who is "just paying for their time" when they are home?

 

Now in this situation, remember that we get along as people great and have alot in common. A new client would and could be another story. Taking the escorts time away from other activities outside of escorting could make for a situation to pay for time. A single escort, laying on a beach in mexico... I dont think so.

Edited August 29, 2018 by Gymowner

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Different strokes for different folks

 

There are a lot of guys out there who want a vacation escort who also serves as planner and, in some cases, tour guide.

 

While this board may not cater much to that particular niche, it's an existing market if you're able to tap it.

[ncc1701d]

To BN's point....different strokes. I had always assumed with my long time hires that while we are together food was on me, but it would seem not necessarily all the cases are that. So back to basics...get to know him, define/agreed on all the parameters, and take a good dose of positive attitude for a recipe of success.

[Frequentflier]

There are a lot of guys out there who want a vacation escort who also serves as planner and, in some cases, tour guide.

 

Hell yes. But, if they exist I've never spotted one on RM.

[+ oldNbusted]

I love getting frisky first thing in the morning but as so many others have said, communication is key..

 

[Wolfer]

I love getting frisky first thing in the morning but as so many others have said, communication is key..

 

Hahaha, me too. Although for me it is usually around 3AM.

(I loved Happy Endings, by the way, the show that gif is from)

[Wolfer]

Those who advertise daily/ON rates that are not much less than their hourly multiply by the hours doesn't want the long hires. The ones who's day rates are very reasonable and even less than many "hot porn star" ON rates are the ones you want......they price themselves for that market.

I've had mixed results with this. For instance an escort mentions in his ad that he "likes long (relaxed) sessions", but his overnight rate doesn't really reflect that.

 

I had an escort once ask me with a late session if I wanted to do an overnight. He would reduce his rate. I thought about it and said "well I don't care to sleep with you and for what I want, let's set up a session in the morning and I get what I want for about half of the overnight "discounted" rate." He chuckled and said sure, so we met again the next day.

I've been thinking along the same lines, especially when it comes to overnights. I feel you get more bang for your buck (apt expression here ) with seperate sessions than paying someone to sleep next to you. While of course that could be something some clients want, I prefer to be actively cuddling and being affectionate. I'm a very light sleeper and have even trouble sleeping well when I have a sleepover at my best friend's place.

 

Now for spending the day that would be completely different as we'd be actively engaged with each other.

 

I like the system you have. So it means you don't really ask for a day rate but more like if the escort were to have 2 sessions of 250 each in a day if he were to be home, you'd pay him 500 to be with you for that day on vacation? Or did I misunderstand?

 

I'm thinking of checking with a guy I like next time in Barcelona to hire him as a travel companion for the day to visit Sitges and then afterwards have fun in my hotel room.

[OceanTraveller]

Have done it many times with different guys. The longest was a 7 day cruise with 2 days post cruise. I've had fun and it went well. I try to be fair and to dive them their space. I enjoy having a companion and partner and bring them into the decision making process so that we can do some things they enjoy as well.

[ncc1701d]

I've had mixed results with this. For instance an escort mentions in his ad that he "likes long (relaxed) sessions", but his overnight rate doesn't really reflect that.

 

I've been thinking along the same lines, especially when it comes to overnights. I feel you get more bang for your buck (apt expression here ) with seperate sessions than paying someone to sleep next to you. While of course that could be something some clients want, I prefer to be actively cuddling and being affectionate. I'm a very light sleeper and have even trouble sleeping well when I have a sleepover at my best friend's place.

 

Now for spending the day that would be completely different as we'd be actively engaged with each other.

 

I like the system you have. So it means you don't really ask for a day rate but more like if the escort were to have 2 sessions of 250 each in a day if he were to be home, you'd pay him 500 to be with you for that day on vacation? Or did I misunderstand?

 

I'm thinking of checking with a guy I like next time in Barcelona to hire him as a travel companion for the day to visit Sitges and then afterwards have fun in my hotel room.

 

I'm curious as well. This is the reason I never do ON anymore...so it's either an evening /afternoon date of 5-6hr, or the whole day. ON just doesn't make sense for me who is not a night owl. It's too tight (pun intended) to fit in play sessions and proper amount of sleep in a 10-12 time frame for the price required.

 

So do you pay him for 2 sessions of 2 hrs and send him home in between or send him to sleep in a different room? Enquiring minds want to know ;;-)

[Wolfer]

I'm curious as well. This is the reason I never do ON anymore...so it's either an evening /afternoon date of 5-6hr, or the whole day. ON just doesn't make sense for me who is not a night owl. It's too tight (pun intended) to fit in play sessions and proper amount of sleep in a 10-12 time frame for the price required.

 

So do you pay him for 2 sessions of 2 hrs and send him home in between or send him to sleep in a different room? Enquiring minds want to know ;;-)

I would think he would go home, so he'd technically be free to have other clients if he wanted to.

 

Have you hired for a whole day? How was the flow of a day like that?

[ncc1701d]

For a day or more it is either a weekend or a trip somewhere. During the day it's usually a late wake up, and depending on who you are with, coffee before taking care of morning wood or reverse ;-) Then the day is easy pace most of the times, checking out sites of the destination, lounging by the pool, watching a movie etc. Lots of time there is a prolonged massage (and whatever follows) before dinner. I always tell him to take time for gym (those bodes don't come easy!) and for personal emails (I don't specify time, and most except one have never abused it). I also make it clear that if there is shit happening in their lives and if they need to take calls for that I'm fine (and preferably if it's a big issue, to actually cancel or reschedule rather than be distracted). That's just me, and others may differ (ie want non stop sex!). So like the common theme here...TALK to the guy first and TEST DRIVE

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It's threads like this one that make the line clear between guys who hire on the hourly and guys who hire by the weekend/week/etc

 

There's a kind of familiar ease in the longterm gig: It's not about how much can I get for this amount. It's about enjoying the moment because you're not worried about a clock.

[OceanTraveller]

Agree with Benjamin...It's about sharing and enjoying many things and many things more than intimacy. Ironically though sharing and enjoying different things can make the intimacy even more enjoyable. I think a lot of mutual respect goes into it. Would have liked to have seen Ben but he leaves London before I arrive !

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Agree with Benjamin...It's about sharing and enjoying many things and many things more than intimacy. Ironically though sharing and enjoying different things can make the intimacy even more enjoyable. I think a lot of mutual respect goes into it. Would have liked to have seen Ben but he leaves London before I arrive !

 

Fear not, OC: London is chock-full of beautiful gents and starting tomorrow, the city should be back to business as summer holiday will officially be over.

 

I'm back in London in two weeks for Kylie at the O2. How long you hanging in town for?

[Wolfer]

It's threads like this one that make the line clear between guys who hire on the hourly and guys who hire by the weekend/week/etc

 

There's a kind of familiar ease in the longterm gig: It's not about how much can I get for this amount. It's about enjoying the moment because you're not worried about a clock.

True, but still a fee needs to be negotiated, I reckon? That's why I asked the question since I had no clue on how to approach this with the providers.

 

For the two longer hires I did (both overnights) one escort just had a set price and times and for the other one I told him when I wanted to arrive and when I would be leaving the next day and asked him what his fee would be for that.

 

And I discovered for myself that overnights don't really work for me. Like I mentioned I'm a light sleeper and yes, in the end, I do look if I'm getting the value I would like out of the encounter. Like many clients and escorts regularly remind us on here: in the end it is a business transaction. The escort is selling me a service with perceived value and I am paying for that, so when I discover that a certain setup doesn't work for me, then I will look for ways to change it. For instance, maybe hire for a day instead of a night.

[OceanTraveller]

HI Ben..I leave on the 10th and sail back to NYC on a small ship....hence Ocean Traveller Will talk sometime

[Gymowner]

ok wolfer... thanks for your comments and questions. to be clear, the person i talked about in my post i have seen once and many times twice a week going on 10 months now. thats alot of time that we have gotten to know each other from our sessions. we share common viewpoints. in the beginning he stated "i feel like we are becoming friends". i took that comment down right away. i said "we are becoming friendly not friends and thats the way it needs to be for long term business relationships like this". he seemed confused. i said "look,we wont be friends ever". he asked why not. i said "its easy. will you ever call me up to go hit the gym together or just hang out at a movie for free?". he turned his head down, got what i meant and from that moment on our "relationship" has gone perfectly and smoothly in the right direction. he contacts me each day we are to meet about 4 hours beforehand to see if i still want to get together that day and never in 10 months has he ever been even 1 minute late, nor changed or cancelled a session. now thats a business relationship that works. now are we very warm with each other when we meet? you bet. does he get into his personal life and ask me for or listen to my opinions? yes again. i think it works so well since he sees there is no pressure on my end to ever evolve this into anything more than it is. he now sees that being "friendly" is what makes this work for so long. he tells me the stories about guys that want to "fall for him" and its just a total turn off to a guy whose inclinations are with and for the opposite sex.

 

so since we are "friendly" now its easy for me to keep this a business relationship and pay him not for his time when we go away but for the sessions that he delivers on when we are there. we will see sights, lay on the beach and just relax. i dont need or want to feel any emotions towards him at all. i think a lot of you guys on here want but wont admit to this when you hire for days or week excursions. you want to feel intimacy and loved by that uber hot stud for that time away and are willing to pay dearly for it. faux affection it is. and again this stud is not a machine. how many times he wants to have a session in those two days will be totally up to him. i will pay him his full price for each and every session. 1 sessions gets his one fee. 5 sessions in the two days will get him 5 fees. that way there is no pressure whatsoever on him for performance or any feeling from him that i expect a certain amount of sessions. this is as a i stated a win/win for me and the stud. how much money he wants or needs to make is totally up to him and in that time frame we get a mini vacation away from our regular lives. this is simple stuff guys!!!!

 

now will this work for a new escort? i dont believe so. he does not know your intentions nor his commonalities, if any, that he has with you. and why on earth would i want to pay someone for their time that i know nothing about? his likes/dislikes etc. hell, my life has been more auntie mame than many or most of these guys so why should i pay them to listen to their boring lives? they should pay me!!!!!!!

Edited September 7, 2018 by Gymowner

[ncc1701d]

Gymowner thanks for the details. In that scenario, who is paying for the trip expenses...each their own would be my assumption?

[Gymowner]

Ncc... as I stated any costs that the stud would not have at home I will cover. Would he have gas cost to get to our destination? No. Would he have a hotel cost at home? No. Would he have to pay to eat at home? Sure. I will pay him for the eagerness he has to make money via sessions rendered... not paying him to lay on a beach. Anyone who pays for time in my humble opinion really doesn't know or understand negotiations.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Like many clients and escorts regularly remind us on here: in the end it is a business transaction

 

And in the end, there are many of us who don't make that the hub of what or who we are. Different strokes, as I said before.

 

My hope is that you find a setup with an escort that makes you happy- Focus less on what others say here and just communicate with the escort you're interested in.

[Wolfer]

And in the end, there are many of us who don't make that the hub of what or who we are. Different strokes, as I said before.

 

My hope is that you find a setup with an escort that makes you happy- Focus less on what others say here and just communicate with the escort you're interested in.

Thank you for saying that. I personally am someone who likes to not make it just be a business transaction but I don't state that very often because "HEALTHY BOUNDARIES!". I try to keep a balance between what I feel works for me and what is doable for a provider and my budget.

 

i dont need or want to feel any emotions towards him at all. i think a lot of you guys on here want but wont admit to this when you hire for days or week excursions. you want to feel intimacy and loved by that uber hot stud for that time away and are willing to pay dearly for it. faux affection it is.

I will readily admit that I am looking for intimacy and affection in all of my hires, even the hour-long ones. I don't agree that it is necessarily faux affection by default. Much of that depends on the provider also. I have had some very affectionate and intimate encounters with providers and some that were just a pump and dump.

I'm wired in a different way: for me everything I do has to be connected to my emotions and feelings otherwhise I don't even feel the inclination to bother with it.

 

It's great that you've found a setup that works for you. I love hearing everyone's different ways of how they approach this, it gives me some examples to think about what I would like and which experiences I'd like to have.

[Guest europeanman]

I don't hire often and I never hire for an hour. I am looking mostly for companionship and less for sex. For example after a business day away from home, I want a good looking, polished boy to show me the best bar or restaurant. I never negotiate, what is important is to have a nice time. My time is more expensive than a few hundred euros.

[Gymowner]

Woofer in all due respect, when you are hiring a stranger and paying him money to be affectionate it is in all accounts faux. You seem like a nice, decent articulate person. I'm glad to hear your points on the board.

[jawjateck]

I've done a variety of multi-day meets, weekends, vacays, etc. My sweet-spot is a two-nighter. Plenty of time to relax, without feeling the rush. Time for social activities, but not so long as to become a chore or a grind.