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Was the provider a regular of yours that invited you to a private (personal) party or did you had to pay to be in the party? In one hand is hot when you are into 1 person within a party and no one but that person exist but at the other hand you're turning away from group fun which I assume was the selling ticket LOL!

Depends on the quality of the finishing cream.

Do you mind sharing how exactly you did it? I´m not a big extrovert. 

@DapperGent LOL! You are right is him, I'm just building courage to ask I get nervous... Just to imagine him right here doing a massage wow...

years (probably decades) ago a provider invited me to a sex party at his place.  About a half-dozen guys there but the provider arranging it was focused on me; at one point he took me off to a separate room where we played.  I was happily surprised, I'm  not the type of guy that someone will typically gravitate to in a roomful of other men. 

Hi I kinda started a topic about this ,  usually I give one flat rate for a session usually the session would take place late at night and sometimes last a couple of days  I could go home and relax and get called back into the session again.. lolol usually I would have to be the motivator of all the session because new workers wouldn't be motivated. Majority of the workers was attracted to me and I would get blown etc etc it is fun  it was one escort there and omg he couldn't keep his mouth off of me  talk about me being good to the last drop lol but I do like to put on a show lol now as far as theft goes sometimes I would have to keep a eye on other workers so I kinda wore alot of hats being security, recruiter , escort etc by Monday morning I'm exhausted mentally and physically . But in a nutshell it can be fun but it takes alot of energy .

I met him a few years ago when he lived in NYC.  He gave a good massage and is an extremely nice guy.   Hope this helps. 

I have done this with a couple of masseurs in LA. The above advice is spot on. Ask during the massage. I asked two. Both said yes. It’s more money for them. Also be willing to host. Many of them live with roommates or other masseurs so hosting for them can be difficult.

I know who you are talking about, Bert knows how to use those hands… Concurring with @KeepItReal I would approach the subject during the massage, what are your expectations and he ought to tell you or give you his number.

Be discreet but clear. Offer him a card with your number and ask him to reach out if he would consider meeting outside of the spa. Use the rates on Rentmasseur as a guide, but I would let him give you a rate once you have conveyed your interest and service needs. I've done this before and it worked out really well. 

I think there's a big misunderstanding between sensual and erotic massage particularly when looking for a great happy end. I have found that sensual is just a clothed masseur teases you prior to jerk you off, while erotic is naked or nearly and actual sex included (oral or otherwise). Have you been "deceived" by letting you think one outcome and it turns out the other. Should we say something before starting or after we get hard, making sure we get what we are expecting?

Got a 90 mins massage by a tall Latin guy, I think his name was Vel or Bert. Strong and sensual head to toe, big hands that feel nice when he goes over your inner thighs... money well spent, they've got a new regular.

Got a 90 mins massage by a tall Latin guy, I think his name was Vel or Bert. Strong and sensual head to toe, big hands that feel nice when he goes over your inner thighs... money well spent, they've got a new regular.

This is why you hire an escort who has good reviews for his bodywork. I like 45 min massage followed by 45 of other touch - 90 min at escort rate. Not sure? Hire from his masseur page a for 60m sensual. If that goes well, then hire him for the upgrade in time and service.

Tricky territory. The definitions of Therapeutic Massage, Sensual Massage and Erotic Massage vary widely from masseur to masseur and likely from client to client. It’s best to ask the masseur the difference between them so you know what to expect.
To me, therapeutic massage should provide therapeutic benefits, ease tense muscles, break up knots, and generally be a legit massage rather than a weak unskilled body rub. Draping and nudity will vary by masseur.
Sensual massage may or may not be therapeutic in nature but should definitely go beyond the normal touch boundaries of a therapeutic massage, freely venturing and exploring inner thighs, groin, balls, cock and nips. Nudity would be the norm, in my opinion.
When MasseurFinder explicitly listed the 3 categories of massage, their Help section defined Sensual Massage as being sensual to the point of causing arousal, even sustained arousal, but in so many words — without a happy ending. They left the HE to be part of their Erotic Massage definition, saying EM goes beyond causing arousal — basically a Happy Ending.
IMHO I believe it’s acceptable to expect HE during erotic massage but one should never expect sex as part of it. That is more commonly escort territory and while many escorts advertise as masseurs, even then sex should not be assumed to be included in erotic massage hire. If a masseur decides to offer sex — oral or other — that’s their choice but sex should never be assumed as included.
As stated earlier, it’s best to ask the masseur so you can manage your expectations.

I usually stand outside the spa and shout at the door, “I expected bareback anal from a big dicked masseur, please confirm to me that you guarantee those terms.”
Then I make them confirm on camera before even entering the spa.
I also demand to see the masseur’s junk before accepting them.
I mean I AM paying.

I think these terms are very open to interpretation by both parties.

I think there's a big misunderstanding between sensual and erotic massage particularly when looking for a great happy end. I have found that sensual is just a clothed masseur teases you prior to jerk you off, while erotic is naked or nearly and actual sex included (oral or otherwise). Have you been "deceived" by letting you think one outcome and it turns out the other. Should we say something before starting or after we get hard, making sure we get what we are expecting?

I think there's a big misunderstanding between sensual and erotic massage particularly when looking for a great happy end. I have found that sensual is just a clothed masseur teases you prior to jerk you off, while erotic is naked or nearly and actual sex included (oral or otherwise). Have you been "deceived" by letting you think one outcome and it turns out the other. Should we say something before starting or after we get hard, making sure we get what we are expecting?

I think there's a big misunderstanding between sensual and erotic massage particularly when looking for a great happy end. I have found that sensual is just a clothed masseur teases you prior to jerk you off, while erotic is naked or nearly and actual sex included (oral or otherwise). Have you been "deceived" by letting you think one outcome and it turns out the other. Should we say something before starting or after we get hard, making sure we get what we are expecting?

Reality check:
People discriminate.
Even woke-ass lefties have things that appeal and do not appeal to them. That's just reality. This word "discrimination" is misplaced when you're shopping. People like what they like.  
 

I hate to be crude, but I’ve often run into the masseur needing a shower. Rubbing and tugging can work up a sweat and it doesn’t take too long to ripen. So perhaps a hygiene rating? Daisy fresh to aged garlic?

Agree with most of the comments already posted.
Except: I see a need to separate out licensed masseurs.
For them nothing on this site should jeopardize their license. No mention of “erotic”, “mutual touch”, “kissing” or any similar innuendo.

My advice...
 
Don't choose your trainer based on how he looks. Many, many of these guys use insane/dangerous shortcuts to get the IG bodies they have. What you really want is a healthy, functional, flexible body that will age well over time.
 
Talk with your potential trainer and if he's not concerned with your goals, he's not the guy you want with you in the gym.

Call ahead, make an appt, go, relax, go with the flow, tip well. Couldnt be easier.