urbanfetish

That's sad to hear, but maybe part of the problem is that you asked for a strong massage at a place like TSMS. I have made the same mistake in the past. Now, I only get a strong massage at a more "professional" spa now. I have had Charlie's massage a couple of times without issue and I can recommend him.

I agree. I shouldn't have continued the session. I was relatively new to hiring at that point and I was hosting in my apartment. I wanted to avoid any possible scene and as I said, it was my first time dealing with this issue. I hadn't even thought about it being an option. I have learned how to deal with it since then.

Four reviews in the space of less than three weeks and then nothing seem odd to me. ?‍♂️

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/411-on-spa-27.137386/

I sent inquiries to three different guys about two weeks ago. Only heard back from one. I had used it in August without any issue. The escort and I did all of our communication via the app and it was fine. This time, I'm not so sure. I'll probably stick to texting directly. Seems a bit hit or miss.

To me, it depends on whether you can safely pay less for not receiving the services promised. I've had this happen to me several times, although it was the bottom who couldn't perform for me, the top. The first time took me by surprise and I had hired this guy for 3 hours. I had planned to have a relaxing encounter but things turned quickly as he said he "didn't feel up to bottoming". I was disappointed, of course. We spent the 3 hours (maybe just the last 2 hours) trying other things but the mood was spoiled. Since it was the first time for that to happen with me, I paid in full, albeit reluctantly. Had another guy let me start fucking him but he wasn't properly cleaned out, so we stopped. He disappeared to the bathroom, then came back and said he didn't feel up to bottoming anymore. I got dressed, paid him about $50 (I think he was charging about $200?) and left with him screaming at me. But I was at his place and didn't feel threatened. Another guy started saying he wanted me to cum about 5 seconds after I started fucking him. I barely got it in and he was like "oh baby, are you going to cum soon? Cum now! Cum!" He was serious and he wasn't complaining about being in pain or anything. He just wanted me to hurry. So, I did - out the door. This was in Berlin, I think? Somewhere in Europe because I remember that I only gave him 50 Euros. I wasn't even there 15 minutes. Of course, it does help if this happened outside your home/hotel. It's easier to leave than to try to force someone to leave your place. If they are at my place or my hotel when traveling, I probably would just pay the agreed upon rate to get them to leave.

I hired two guys from a go-go bar in Bangkok once. It was one of the best experiences ever. I would love to repeat it (at home or traveling) but I feel like it would be difficult to capture that magic again. I feel like I hit the right mix between the three of us. But I still might try! ? I picked one guy and together we picked a 2nd. Since he worked there, I wanted someone he got along with. One was a bottom and one was vers. so it was a good combo, with me being a top. The three of us kissed at the same time and managed to fool around in all kinds of positions. I was in heaven! haha

I've learned to view the profile while signed in (they can see if you viewed even if you don't message through their site) and I try to send at least one message via their site. I sent a good review just the other day and one "how are you?" message through their site was enough for the review to go through. I had another one that I only viewed while signed in but texted outside their site; it still went through. But I had another review denied solely because I never even signed in to view the guy's profile, and of course I never messaged via their site, only via text. They said there was no proof that we met.

$300 just to pleasure HIM? Uhm, hard pass!

Way too expensive!

I prefer to get massages around noon to no later than 3pm. I find that the guys are not so tired earlier in the day. Of course, that sometimes backfires when they do have the energy but don't want to "expel" it ? themselves so they still have energy later (on those occasions when it could go that far). lol I actually have a session scheduled at 10am next week, but that's only because I have a very specific window of opportunity to meet for a massage. It's been a long dry spell these past six months so I need to make up for lost time! ?

I just met "TerrenceZz" today. I can definitely recommend him. Anyone can PM me for details if you wish.

I just tried booking him over the weekend. I asked if the pics were really him and if not, please send me his face pic so I'm not surprised. He promised the pics were his. Well, a quick reverse pic search found most of the pics and they don't seem to be of a Flushing, NY masseur! He did offer to facetime with me but I declined. I understand that some guys don't like to show their real face for privacy reasons, but I've had too many who are really hiding either bad looks or a bad reputation. Just don't show a face pic then!

I just meant if I forgot to include a want/desire in my initial request and brought it up after meeting. Could be anything - kissing, sucking, fucking, fisting, role play, etc. ?‍♂️

Seeing the hole doesn't bother me. Sometimes it can be helpful, either to see if they have a super loose hole or if they have a nice hairless ass crack for rimming.

I met an escort who was not that good of an actor. The first time we met was fairly hot. At the end, he was moaning how he could feel me cumming inside him. Ok, well, I have had orgasms that were strong enough for the bottom to feel, but this was not one of those times. The second time we met (and the last), he said the same thing but with even less enthusiasm. haha While I appreciate the effort, it was too fake for me.

I usually do like it when my paid companion enjoys himself too, at least a little bit, but there have been times when it is clear they "over-promised" their willingness to bottom, for example. Of course, I would never rape them, but if they are willing to complete the task that they agreed to, then that's on them. I'm very clear that I'm looking for a bottom and if they agree to it, I hope they are willing to complete the job. If not, then they don't get full payment (but again, I would never force them to do it). Ideally, they will let me know their likes in regards to sensitive nipples, kissing their ear/neck or whatever else they like. I do like to make them moan too.

I don't wear pajamas at all. Usually just boxer briefs or occasionally nude.

$350? No way would I pay that, even in NYC. I think $250 is more reasonable. If someone wants to quote $300 or higher, I'll just decline and let them offer lower if they want. I don't like negotiating and risking hard feelings. Some guys ask for higher fees first just to see if they can get it. I have paid higher rates in the past but I've never felt like I got my money's worth for the difference. I don't see the point anymore. There are other guys who will be happy with $250 and do just as good a job, if not better.

If it's important to you, then sure, why not? Especially if the guy has pics with multiple hair styles and/or facial hair. It's good to know what he currently looks like. Facial hair is a turn off for me in general, so I'd want to know.

I think he charges escort level prices for a massage. Not sure if he provides more than massage services for that price. I never took him up on the offer. Too expensive to take a chance for me. lol

I don’t recommend. Met him a few weeks ago. You can DM me if you want.

"Bump" means someone is trying to bump the thread back to the top of the list so it's not buried on page 10 or whatever. This thread was started in Feb but instead of creating a new thread, which is annoying to have multiple threads about the same guy, they just "bumped" this thread to see if anyone has info without having anything to add themselves.

I prefer smooth.

I usually say something along the lines of "Sorry but I don't think we are a good match." It doesn't directly put the perceived blame on them. I'm not into Trans guys in a similar (yet opposite?) way that I'm not into cross dressers/drag queens/transsexuals. I don't find women attractive so why would I want a guy in women's clothes or a Trans man with a pussy? I support them for who they are, who they've become and all that, but I'm not sexually interested in them.