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Gay boys like us wear Jordans? Really?

I own several limited Jordans and at least one of my regulars is a sneakerhead, also my guys tend to be on the younger side, so maybe that's where the confusion lies? Also 2 of them are athletes of sorts (competitive bodybuilders) so probably more fixated on the sports gear stuff...

The "Depends on what his style and interests are" advice is definitely the right one, while a more "aspiration" fixated guy might be blown away by a Hermes Tie or a Burberry coat, a Circuit Party guy would much prefer the harness or a bright colored thong/jock, I know my guys and I know what's gonna ellicit a "Boy opening up exactly what he asked for XMas" type of reaction and gratitude...

My preferred hyper masculine top loooovees his Gucci, I guess because it's something bougie he can show off to his peers? Jordan shoes are always good for guys in their 20s, if he loves watching a particular sport, maybe some merch from his favorite team?

Asking for a friend.... where exactly do you live?

Mexico City.

I live in a third world country, so sometimes its hard to get fully legal businesses to accept credit cards, let alone app payments like PayPal; providers are a cash only expense for me, though I have one regular that is starting to prefer payment in kind rather than money.

I would definitely prefer them be a little more with the times since I hate carrying cash and no one looks at my bank statements other than myself, but alas, I will trade convenience for paying for an overnight what American providers charge for an hour

Not really bullied at all, always been very easy for me to get along with the typical jock/bully types so in middle school I had full immunity despite not being athletic or even that hyper masculine at all. In high school such types basically just became unattainable jocks that I just lusted after as they played american football but they minded their own shit.

I did have "mean girl" type of incidents with girls in middle school and high school, I was outed by them and seriously gossiped about by them, the middle school one went on to be a nurse, from what I gather she's still very much a bitch and lives paycheck to paycheck which is semi satisfying; the highschool one went on to standard corporate job, last I heard she had a pretty standard life (as most of the type seem to have), my quiet revenge came from having a very intense relationship with her boyfriend at the time, mostly sexual, but I never did tell her about it, despite having the chance to do so.

I appreciate the response and am not being a smart ass but I'm not sure of PV's appeal without clubs. I recall only small amounts of beachfront not run by restaurants or resorts. Did I miss something?

Plenty of stuff to do in and around Vallarta beyond the night life for sure, but 1: I'd say you need a car and 2: Would never recommend an American tourist (specially the type to choose Vallarta as their destination in the first place) to leave the tourist zone.

Why do you still hookup on Grindr?

 

have you thought about having a date first?

Well I simply don't date currently, have little space in my life to devote to an emotional relationship and have no desire to have one, but do crave sex from time to time and during a lot of 2020, whatever can pass for "regulars" were not in my area and I did not find anyone to my taste, so I found hookups to fulfill the cravings, now I'm experimenting with a couple of guys who could potentially become repeat providers, precisely because I found hookups not fullfilling.

I've felt more "shame" from Grindr hookups than I ever have with a provider, I'm not sure what their perspective of the situation is, but from my seat is has always been at the very least friendly and satifsying, while on the other hand there's always this dirty feeling of nothingness to an anonymous hookup that just makes it overall pretty awful.

For me maybe it derives from when I was discovering my sexuality when I was young, the time when I was phisically closest with other boys was when we were playfighting, so I always associate it with it awakening something in me I guess...

basically...match, don't escalate. This may take time to develop.

I think when dealing with someone who presents themselves as "straight", this is 100% the best piece of advice you will get. Match his vibe and see if he escalates it further, specially in this type of situation it's probably better to not be the initiator.

Yes, twice in this journey I've felt a chemistry that went beyond normal service or even hookup feelings.

First was with a guy who I hired at a very emotional time and obviously him being the absolute charmer he is, identified I probably needed a little talking to, we ended up extending past the paid for time and had a bit of a therapy sesh and yeah, it was hard to go at the end of it, but I made it a point to just keep that as a special night and went months without seeing him again, just to keep it simple.

The other was more of a quid pro quo situation, not explicitly with a provider, so the line was already blurry to begin with. Also a charmer who was probably happy to be taken care of if only for a moment and yeah it's taken all of my willpower not to see him again, to be fair I was forewarned that he elicits strong feelings from past sexual partners, I just thought I was immune to that type of thing.

I actually love escorting because I can put in 100% intimacy and I know the session has an end. Whereas I have to be careful with hookups because people can get attached quickly when neither party means to.

Usually this is my policy, find it very easy to just let go and be fully trusting and intimate with a provider, knowing it's very transactional and it's just two people making the most of a moment in time. Makes for better experiences in general, which is mostly what clients are after, right?

Of course I would, given that I was attracted to him and we were compatible to an acceptable degree I don't see why I wouldn't.

I think one person's negative experience with someone with other issues not related to being trans isn't really being fair to a whole world of people, but that's just my opinion.

Be that as it may, as someone who was into bodybuilding in college and befriended and dated bodybuilders in the past, use and abuse of exogenous testosterone and its effects on a man is not something I'm a stranger to or entirely turned off by.

I generally would do as asked, some providers ask for it upfront, in my experience those are the ones that rarely get a call back, the guys I tip usually ask for it at the end or don't ask at all (I usually either put it on top of a drawer during in-calls or just give it to them) maybe guys who don't ask upfront are a little more confident on the fact that maybe you'll want stay longer for seconds or tip?

Maybe I'm just an easy client because I treat it as if it were any other hookup, am always well groomed, I try to be flirty and charming and I'm a bit on the younger side of clients, but I think only once have I felt not entirely secure with the transaction/feared that a provider could get physical and only once did I really feel like I had wasted perfectly good money.

Not to toot my own horn, but I'm very good at hand to hand fighting. Something I refined in the Army, still, the specific encounter I'm recounting, the dude was able to elbow me in the eye and it left a noticeable bruise that I had to explain over and over. If he'd had a weapon of any kind, I could've gotten seriously hurt. Definitely not worth $50, $100, or even the whole amount. Better just to walk away. There'll always be another client eventually.

I personally think the bruise would have been a pleasant surprise as a client, but I get how some might be less than charmed by it. But this is the main reason why I try to be polite and nice, I think any encounter is gonna be much easier if the other party is calm and feels safe and secure at the end of the day you're both taking a risk by meeting (specifically if its for the first time)

His case. Soccer player, girlfriend, you'd never know if you see him on the street.

It took me a 3rd date, and some weed, to convince him to kiss me.

Why did I wait so much? Cause he'll rim me and pound me like no other, and then some.

I get the idea that some people have just very personal hangups, it's just been more efficient for me to not chase after those types after several disappointments . I've had guys with girlfriends who are very much into kissing and all sorts of passionate displays of affection, maybe that's why the "no-kissing" thing is such a turn off.

As a former straight guy (figured out pretty late that I liked dudes too), I do not see the draw. The vast majority of straight dudes have bachelor frog-level (it's a meme, Google it, you're welcome ) hygiene at best. I used to be a slob, and that was when I considered myself 'hunting' or 'on the market'. The couple of girls I've had since I started having sex with men have actually remarked about how clean my place is - and that I have clean sheets/pillow cases. The bar is that low.

Yup, talking to women about guys hygiene/cleanliness, it's pretty clear the bar is quite low. I guess I got spoiled by my early experiences when guys were always freshly showered, perfumed and with fresh minty breath, being a slob doesn't even register on my mind, but personal hygiene and smell does quite a lot. (PS. Now I have a reason to visit Atlanta after the World decides to stop ending )

Only guys I've met who don't kiss are self-proclaimed "Straight guys", I understand some people like that kind of thing but in my experience they're bad dates and bad lays (both pro and not so).

Then again, I'm very much one to treat my own hygiene and smells as top priority before a date, be it with a pro or not, could never understand those who don't even try before meeting a provider, seems to me like just basic courtesy to put your own best foot forward before an encounter, whether paid or not.

My policy for social hangouts with a provider is: If I'm eating by myself after a session/have no plans, I'll mention it and if the guy wants to join I'd obviously treat dinner, definitely a quid pro quo situation and obviously it's 100% up to them.

I've definitely met some guys that have specific social rates, which are obviously much cheaper than normal and they obviously expected everything would be paid for in terms of drinks and meals, but have never really had the need to use, specially now.

I think pornstars pretending to fight will always look fake, it'd have to be some pretty hardcore stuff for it to be realistic and sexual at the same time.

But I fully agree, fighters are like my ultimate fetish, nothing like a man that can defend himself and that you can play rough with.

Not a Boomer but mine was similar as Dave above, one day after dinner with my mom and I decided to say, but I just couldn't so started getting really anxious and she asked me what was wrong and I just said "I'm gay" and her response was "That's it?" pretty much a non starter.

My father was a lot more of an emotional thing, we hugged and it was all very dramatic, but equally accepting.

I always assume that every provider has seen someone before me, throughout the day at the very least, all I realistically care about is whether I get what I'm wanting from them; which can be a number of different things and as long as I get a good performance and they're clean (showered, teeth brushed, etc) and smelling great, I'm perfectly ok.

I have also seen during incalls their phones on coffee tables on Grindr convos, not sure if looking for clients or just sex; some guys are just nymphos.

https://rentmasseur.com/DomDEEPMaster

Visiting my city, seems well reviewed but couldn't find him using the search bar...

And also the rule when I was growing up was that we never tipped the business owner. Should the escort come through an agency, tipping is appropriate, but not if he is a sole practitioner.

Usually I agree with this, but sometimes (not all the time) it just feels like I'm underpaying and I just give a little extra.

Usually I'll tip, but only if I think the provider went above my expectations. Recently I had a guy who was really extraordinary, I tipped, we kissed goodbye and I left, a couple of hours later I get a message from him saying thanks (guess he didn't really check until afterwards) I just said I'd see him later we had a short conversation afterwards and that was it.

The sex was more than enough to do repeat business, but the politeness just makes me want to make him a regular.

Glad you decided to post and share your story. Hopefully you’ll share more in the future

Yeah for sure I will! I'm located outside of the US (Latin America) so my specific experiences are gonna be a bit outside the mark for most of yall but I'm happy to share whenever I think you guys could be interested!

First time posting here in the forums (but I've lurked for ages), this seems like an appropriate place to start.

I don't share with anyone on my social circle with the exception of a former partner who, while we were on a trip together, expressed a desire to have a threeway and with limited time to find a candidate, I suggested we hired someone; in the end he got cold feet and I cancelled on the guy. So he doesn't actually know but if I showed up somewhere with one of my usual types, I'm sure my ex would assume it was an escort.