The_Impeccable_G

I am seeing three young actors. They are good-looking, nice, clever, educated, polished, cultured and the list can go on and on. They are struggling with their careers, they play in small theatres, in experimental productions, short films you get the picture. They are also struggling with their finances, even the one who comes from a wealthy family. They paid for acting school by escorting and sponsors, including yours truly. They are in their mid 20s and have been trying to get their careers off the ground for 5 or more years with little to no success. But they do not give up, they keep on tying, without a thought of making a career change while they can. I admire them for their courage and determination although I am concerned on their future. I am tempted to give parental advise, be the voice of reason but I shut up. I don't like to play daddy (no pun intended) and I am not sure what to advise either - success may be round the corner.
 
I am sure that many others in the forum had similar experiences and thoughts to share.

Acting is a profession that you can't enter into because you expect to make a living. It is a profession you enter into because you are driven by a passion for the craft. There have been many beautiful young actors and actresses that have achieved success then quickly fade into obscurity. I acted a bit in high school often told how good I was but I knew I couldn't deal with rejection on a regular basis (more Buscemi than Effron ). Luckily I had other talents that have afforded me a decent middle class existence. Success in the industry is so often luck of the draw. making the right connections or sucking off the Weinstiens of the world. For every big name there are stories of barely scraping by. Pre pandemic there was such a glut of TV and movies being produced I remember thinking if you can't get a speaking roll in something you may as well pack it in because you must not be any good. Post covid when everyone has watched everything on Netflix, Prime, Hulu etc there will be tons of productions opening back up. Maybe your boys luck will change. Best not kill their dreams with advice who knows they may make it after all.

If someone is paying their rent, is that allowing them to remain stuck?
 
There are a lot of talented folk that are working actors. They have a job.
 
Buddy of mine does Improv, but he does I.T. to make ends meet.

Plenty of stories on either side. I've had a number of friends whose kids went to Hollywood to become actors, writers, and directors, hoping to start low and work their way up: gave up after years.
 
Then I read stories of people who made it: Sawyer on Lost said he'd given up acting to go into real estate, then he got the part. Annie Murphy almost quit acting before getting her part on Schitt's Creek. I think it's like the lottery: there are just enough winners to make people stay in the game despite the odds. The actors you know have to figure out themselves how long they're willing to gamble.

My only input would be to suggest ultra-discreetness. Should success happen down the road, it could be marred by past "employment" revelations.

Ask him if he has done any modelling... This always works for the guys I want to pick up ?

You are lucky. Just go for it. Don't overanalyse. Message him on insta/fb and see what happens. Be polite but direct. This is my advice.

One more thing: Make sure he is hot as you remember him. That he did not gone bald, or put on weight etc. ?

I prefer to have "evenings", ie fun + drinks/dinner. The first time I call an escort for an hour. I meet him at the hotel bar and if we click, I ask if he is available for an evening arrangement and agree on a flat fee. If we do not click, I pay for the hour and say good bye.

One of them was telling me, laughing in self sarcasm, that the covid check was more than what acting pays him.

In the past, I dated some young actors/models/personal trainers aka wannabes. I think the present environment must be disheartening for them.
 
Like you @The_Impeccable_G I restrained myself from giving advice. My advice might have been useful to them but I was pretty sure that they did not want to hear any contrary opinion about their chosen career path.
 
They certainly valued my dinner invitations and weekend outings. As an older man, I knew I always had to pay for them. But they were appreciative over time.

I think most people don't want unsolicited advice on their careers, particularly not from people outside the field they have chosen to pursue, so you are wise not to offer advice.
 
There are so many people competing for the same jobs that struggling actors and models want that most of them will unfortunately not succeed beyond a very minor level. About 20 years ago I worked with a young, handsome man who moved to Los Angeles because he was convinced he could "make it" as an actor. So far he has managed some background roles and a few small speaking parts in shows, but he hasn't reached anywhere near the level of success he hoped for or that would actually pay someone's bills.

Interesting way to open talks. My approach was to make some complimentary remarks to the guy and then ask if he provided services 1-on-1 at home. I normally added “I’m happy to meet your needs and be very discreet if that’s what you require”.
 
IME these guys have all been approached before by men and women. They understand what’s being asked and they appreciate a discreet and polite* enquiry. I’ve been turned down politely in the past, but I’ve never had a hostile reply, and I’ve had some surprising acceptances.
 
*Some guys I’ve dated have told me about queries they’ve had (and in 2 cases, shown me the messages they get). Some people are astoundingly crass and rude, writing messages such as How much to fuck you? Or $$$ to blow me?

Yes, this is the way it is. People don't even bother to find the personality of the ones they are not attracted. Alas it is a material and unfair world ?

Having preferences is not racism. My best friend adores Asians to the point we make fun at him. Another friend likes BBC. I do not like sexually either. Same as I do not like hairy. Does this make me a racist? It is just a sexual preference. Same as If I say that I am 100% btm does not make me a racist.
 
Escorts are people and have their sexual preferences as all of us. It is better to communicate before and find a good match than having a bad experience.

You do not need any Brazilian. The boys now know you and your house and your pool. I presume it is a nice house and a large pool. Just make sure there is champagne and wine floating and they will be around bringing their hot friends.

Of course they can. They can chose their customers as long they can afford it. Money will force them to be less choosy, or allow them to keep being selective.

Can someone That pm’s him tell us how much he needs?

Having preferences is not racism. My best friend adores Asians to the point we make fun at him. Another friend likes BBC. I do not like sexually either. Same as I do not like hairy. Does this make me a racist? It is just a sexual preference. Same as If I say that I am 100% btm does not make me a racist.
 
Escorts are people and have their sexual preferences as all of us. It is better to communicate before and find a good match than having a bad experience.

Actually, the "effeminate" guys confused me. The young generation, a bit shy, ultra polite well mannered and polished, with perfect grooming, some with light make up, some with heavy make up and straight.

I am from Europe and I used to be a member years ago. I could not remember my username and made a new one. No guise or disguise.
 
I do not like muscled guys. Fit and defined yes, bodybuilders absolutely no. I often read in profiles muscled and I see fat. You are right that this may be a European thing. If you browse Hungz listings across Europe there are more lean profiles.

He is cute as is. Why beef him up? There are plenty of fat/muscled escorts.

I am from Europe and I used to be a member years ago. I could not remember my username and made a new one. No guise or disguise.
 
I do not like muscled guys. Fit and defined yes, bodybuilders absolutely no. I often read in profiles muscled and I see fat. You are right that this may be a European thing. If you browse Hungz listings across Europe there are more lean profiles.

He is cute as is. Why beef him up? There are plenty of fat/muscled escorts.

My gaydar is quite reliable. Generally it works. It did not work with some macho ultra straight looking guys and it also did not work with some effeminate young guys who were straight.