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Right, but there’s a difference between: I can’t afford it, and “you’re too expensive FOR ME”. Well who said my life and finances relied on what he thinks about my prices? Words are everything. I just came back from 2 months tour. I mostly charged the same from Denver to Arizona to San Diego. However, I do find in the Midwest, South and Florida…seems like rate and deposit resistant is a bit higher than in other areas. However, I will also say I am moving away from the “cheaper area=charge less, more expensive area =charge more”. Hell, in Kansas City they have Ocean prime downtown that charges $20-$40 for a glass of wine, they have sporting events charging thousands of dollars, and there’s huge homes in various communities. I’m going to charge the same here, as I did in San Diego last month. And I’ll charge the same in Washington DC as I would in Minneapolis. Being an escort still costs me the same regardless. People who talk about, “guys around here charge XXX” are delusional and have no concept of the individuality and independence that sex work affords.

No, that wouldn’t quite be what I would expect. It’s not an invitation to lowball offers. You catch get the point. What I’m saying is: Instead of coming to me asking me to do this, this, and that and then ask what I charge, if that person already KNOWS, what they can afford...then they need to also include that. Either in the first or second message. Theres nothing wrong with that. It’s not haggling. That then gives me the opportunity to accept or decline. I’ll be less offended by someone tactfully saying what they can afford: not TELLING ME what they can give me, ASKING me and then adding that WITH what they are looking for. There’s a difference. And then to add, “it’s too expensive, out of my league, etc.” that’s just unnecessary commentary. By saying too expensive, a person is saying I don’t know my worth, and I don’t know what I should charge. It’s basically gaslighting me into thinking: maybe I need to lower my rates. Maybe I am too expensive. In reality it’s just bad etiquette on their part. And then when I responded back: how much are you looking to afford? He doesn’t even reply back. So he has no idea what he wants. I hope you read my original post well 🤔 The site was RentMasseur. It shows rates on RentMasseur. My ad also has a link to my website with a full crafted menu of rates and my deposit info. It’s right in front of his fucking face. So to ASK ME, and then TELL ME I’m too expensive, is blatantly bullshitting because the info is right in front of his face. You don’t have to look far to find it. If you can find “contact me, email me” clear at the bottom of page, find that I’m visiting a city and TELL ME that you KNOW I’m visiting a city…surely that person is smart enough to see my rates and read my ad where I have a clickable link to my website, directly to my pricing list. So, no excuses there.

This is become, and has always been: a pet peeve. RentMasseur is particularly prone to this, I find. But other sites like Adam can have more than their fair share of it. For example on my Twitter I posted: #1 If you KNOW you have a budget, don’t ask what an escort/masseur charges. Save the guessing games and make an offer. #2 My rate is in my ad OR website. Repeating it is extra work=fee #3 I know my worth. Don’t gaslight me. I know there was a recent discussion about haggling that I didn’t get to “in time”. But this isn’t about haggling. It’s about basic decency. I imagine most out there have common sense and an idea that a full service SWer is going to ask $200-$300. If someone isn’t prepared to pay that amount, they shouldn’t be approaching off the bat, asking what someone charges. They need to be saying right off the bat: I don’t know your prices (even though it’s on my site, which further proves some stupidity and inability to read), but I’m able to afford X, can you assist? Versus trying to be cunning and make me make the first move. Also, it’s not like I walked up to said person offering to sell him something. Said person came and DM’d me. If someone knows they can probably only afford a certain amount, common courtesy would be to simply INCLUDE an offer. For example: Notice how he had time to say everything else, but didn’t have time to say what he could afford to pay. This is just time wasting and playing guessing games. Meanwhile, I’m supposed to be able to afford to visit a different city: spend on commuting, hotel and pay my bills at home, off some phantom amount less than what I charge. But I’m too expensive? Okay... I feel my prices are decent because couple weeks ago, I had 4/5 back to back bookings in a couple days, who all paid what I asked without trying to talk me down or say it’s too much. And the other day, met a great first time client who sent deposit ahead, booked the room/session and was accommodating from before to after the appointment. If they can do it, there shouldn’t be any excuses from others not to maintain proper etiquette.

We’ve gone so far off the topic of price versus price, I had to recheck the title to make sure I didn’t click in the wrong thread 😆 I have however found a compromise: I’m going to start offering different prices for those who book twice within a month or 2, or who become regular - regulars (as in booking once or twice per couple months, not coming around every 3-6 years lol). I find it seems to get more back in the door.

I agree, very sketch but: having a tight policy seems to help weed out. I believe I got my first real client from Mint boys over the weekend, and he was a gem! Scheduled in advance, confirmed deposit without me having to beg, and booked a longer session and went to dinner afterwards. I was visiting an area so, I made sure to get a room that was appropriate for the booking.

Lot of times just depends…I do know I try to get everything understood within 3 messages: Their details/location, link to my sites, deposit. Anything beyond that, is asking for freebies or being FOS.

Yeah, it’s important every provider be able to show our rates. That’s why I went ahead and got a website because, I like to know how much something is going to cost…Before I even walk thru the door. I went to the LV store in San Francisco last year (was moreso chaperoning a friend versus buying myself lol) and even though there’s not a big NOTHING UNDER $500 SOLD HERE sign, every item has a price, thus avoiding embarrassment when walking up to the register. Why RentMen is still afraid the show the price of the pornstars, idk. I just don’t think Denver can “afford” $250-$300. Back when I used to do well there (2010-until rentboy, CL and M4rent fell off) I used to only be able to get $150-200/hr or $300/350 two hours from the locals, the slightest price hike, guys would try to talk me down. Which was annoying because sometimes I would need more than $150-$200 to run my ever increasing incall studio because: clients need us to host. And even when I wasn’t asking for deposits and could readily host, people were still being flakes or unreliable. But occasionally had visitors who would give me 500-1,000. Hmm, I find that hard to believe. 75 different RentMen and non you found unique? Maybe it’s not them, but you? And not in a bad way: but maybe you’re subconsciously going after a certain type that doesn’t tweak your desire for uniqueness? I mean hell: I been on tour for over a month now, and have met at least 2-3 clients who I was like: wow…that was different. It may be a service commodity to those who view it that way, but for others it’s an essential luxury. Like baseball tickets and spa treatments. If you’re looking at it from a perspective of wanting to find it cheaper, perhaps this is different than what you’re needing. But once someone starts saying they can find guys to hookup with for free and don’t have/want to pay…that becomes less about the escorts, and moreso about someone else’s prerogatives.

Price hikes in providers or cost of goods? Thanks for the suggestion. I will say though, I tend to gravitate to the chain hotels in the area moreso than the neighborhood places. Just so I can flex my loyalty status for later checkouts/free parking, etc. I do use both RentM and RentMass. RentMasseur seems to just bring more clients across the board, but RentMen is a better product than RentMasseur because of how they do the messenger/private pics, etc. However RentMass also tends to have more annoying and lowball types: either they don’t read, ask me what my rates are (I regular have to circle and send it to them in a screenshot), or they think I’m in a city when I’m just advertising it in my travels. I personally don’t have the ability to do high volume: especially at home because, in one town I live, I stay with family and do outcalls with incall by appointment only. The other city, I have a roommate and I have to ask/plan before inviting people over. So it’s not feasible having 2-3 guys coming and going throughout the day. But most the people can never get it right. Simple instructions like, answer 4 things about yourself and send deposit so we can arrange a time: just flies over their head. I wish I could say that was the experience from every appointment lol. I also feel in some ways, people are “taking their anger” out on us, passive aggressively. I was in the store and a couple elderly folks started talking about the price of their ice cream going up, then another lady jumped in and started talking about the price of gas going up in the area this week (granted, this was Walmart BUT the products I needed are only available there lol). I’m thinking to myself like, shut the front door! People always want to talk about stuff going up. Well buy the cheaper ice cream, or maybe not drive faster than everyone else, and you’ll save some gas. It’s like one of my regular clients, who I didn’t quite appreciate it: told me, I like you but I just don’t like the price ($250 I was doing in St. Louis). So on 1 of our bookings I offered slightly less. But next time and for now on anyone who talks smack about my rates: I’m going to ask, “well how much would you charge to sleep with someone you never met, and might not find particularly your type?”

I guess the only way the numbers would change, is if the sites decided to remove Texas as an option for list of states to choose to advertise 😆 But it’s not an issue because most have already taken escort out of their names anyway I’m still considering making a visit out there

What’s this velvet mafia? I’m thinking in my mind: every city seems to have a “rich guy” and sometimes his partner who throws after hours parties and has like 30 guys over from the club lol. But I personally haven’t found those to be reliable hires.

By unicorn, what do you mean exactly? I don’t like the Chicago market at all. And that’s also why I’ve left the St. Louis and KC market for awhile, it’s just not been happening much there. In heading back to the region soon, I’m definitely considering what changes I can do. I also been doing the price shaving here and there, doing 275. But now I’m feeling like, that’s nickle and diming things lol. I used to work in sales and the manager used to say: “if they can afford 850, they can afford 1,000 ” (not that I’m trying to view it that way…plus I dislike “sales jobs” but I feel like a good part of this industry is rooted in being willing to “sell”) The main issue right now: is hotel prices especially in the cities, are so high. Even in St. Louis: hotels surge on weekends and even Priceline and AAA doesn’t really save. You can find a deal here and there, but it’s usually like: “this is the ONLY hotel I can find under $100”. And has already been mentioned…many clients either can’t or don’t want to host. I did luck out in San Diego though: all my serious clients were able to host. All the guys (except the 1 cute 21 year old who shot 💦 over his head 😆) who were wanting to come to me, were full of crap. And that’s why too: I have to keep deposits if I’m hosting. Especially with these rates. Like look below at Phoenix currently. This is what rates at the Marriott chains have been all month. I can’t be at a point where I’m just fucking for a hotel room. That’s demoralizing 🫤 I’m trying to come up with a way to even things out a bit. I already told myself: I been at 250 as my highest hour session since like…2018/19. $250 isn’t bad for a local in/outcall, but not hosting out of town. I also feel like it’s less people booking nowadays because the apps, fewer websites and more competitors. I feel to make up for the fewer clients, I am compelled to ask more. Cities like Nashville and Denver that I used to be able to book 5 clients at $150-250, have been dead on recent visits. Even some of the former clients I run into from the 2010s, are full of shit half the time, and just rude! Only way I can see myself doing that amount, is if I just stop touring all together.

So I been working on adjusting my rates a bit for full service escort visits. I feel $300 is where I want to be right now, especially while touring. Most people who see me tend to do that range anyway. However, I feel in some ways: the “world” (as in the guys in America who are willing to pay), is stuck in $150-200 across as a golden number. I feel like that’s what people want to hear, and it seems to get more regular bookings. But it’s just not sustainable unless I kept my overheads very low. Also there’s not a lot of guarantee that if I offered a session for $150/200, that the person would become a regular. One thing I’ve noticed, the M/F market rates are way higher than ours. Many girls are posting $400-$600 an hour with some even at $1,000 an hour. I just don’t understand why ours is slower to rise year by year. People especially on Adam4Adam try to say they only have $100 or $200. Like, where do they get these numbers from? They might be confusing it with someone like a client told me about the other day: he charges $80 for massage, and s**ks him off at the end. Like, that’s not an escort. That’s just someone who likely already earns money elsewhere and this is his “Fun” that’s paid so it’s a no brainier. I met a guy like that before, muscled, attractive, works full time at nail shop but does massage and f**king for $80. I won’t say I don’t like people like that, but I think clients who are used to that…put us down for charging something more sustainable. I’ve done the $60 and $80 stuff…it doesn’t get me anywhere. It leaves no money to travel, you’re just barely making it. Like I said, unless you have a side source or someone who can really take higher volumes of client (and let’s face it: sometimes you have the look and price point to see the high volume. So: between $300 or $150, what do some feel would give someone the most clients in a month, 6 months?

You may catch locals moreso than travelers in that area. Unless they’re traveling seasonally. I wouldn’t really be focusing on anything Coachella related.

Yes, having danced in a couple cities the year before last: and even knowing a handful of dancers in Denver (like @keroscenefire mentioned) many “dancers” are moreso go-go boys than “strippers”. In fact, many tend to more closely relate to drag queens than sex workers (not to give Tennessee any extra clout in relating them to such lol). And by that I mean: entertainment, keeping the crowd going, etc. The ones I’ve known have also been heavy on “partying” too so…that’s another factor. That said, just because they are hot and fun in a circuit environment around OTHER hot guys, doesn’t mean they are fit for 1 on 1 with any Tom, Dick or hairy Joe Blow who wants to…do private things. In fact I knew a guy years ago who turned to dancing in Dallas. I was shocked because, he knew I was an escort but never really mentioned doing it. Dancing was a less hands on form of sex work. I was in La Jolla San Diego the other week, and that’s a good idea considering the supposed nude beach is supposed to bring out some action. I didn’t cruise, and was just there for a short time…but if I go back in the summer, I’ll be sure to keep some biz cards on hand. Unfortunately, I agree with you there…and that’s pretty much my way of looking at it! Because I know: I get annoyed when someone tries to sell me a product that I’m not looking for, so I prefer not to want to be in that position the other way around either. Also for the record: I meant to correct my friend because, I would not initiate a conversation with someone at random in public/casino if I was expecting payment. I know the chances of being reported/etc are much less when the person hits you up first. Same concept with Grindr and A4A, on the off chances I do meet from there, it’s always them hitting me up first. That way, it automatically takes the solicitor factor out of it. As far as dancing goes: Last year I did a couple dancing gigs and handed out biz cards to just about everyone who tipped me and seemed interested. One was at a nude resort, another at a nightclub. I didn’t end up getting any bookings out of that. I know it was just a couple of times but, it was somewhat discouraging. At the same time, that’s a different crowd. Like I said, people tip drag queens and dancers for the entertainment value. Believe it or not, I actually felt a little odd about being tipped. I’m so used to doing my money behind the scenes, it was very out of my element lol. It was fun and I enjoyed it, but I realized it was moreso for the cause (dancing to promote something else) versus me wanting to do it just for the sake of it. Not to mention, many of the guys tend to be of the “bar patron” types who don’t really pay like that. It’s a reason why I get most of my clients from RM because: most of them aren’t hanging out at a bar at 12 and 1 a.m. Nothing wrong if they do, hell I do too: but I know when I do, I’m not looking for biz. I actually met a slightly older guy in San Diego at a bar during my trip. He was hot AF, and even though I could have used a client, I decided to hookup with him for fun…but eventually I did tell him what I do just to “see” what could come of it. He wasn’t trying to pay, but he was cool with it and even revealed he did it in Italy for a short time. We stayed in touch while I was in the area, so I made a new friend with benefits. To me that’s usually a more productive way of “working” the bars versus trying to find clients. However, I will say on quiet weekdays or gay bars where it’s very few people (hard to get anyone to stay focus when there’s drinks and 100 people bumping into each other)…I have been known to pass a biz card or show a picture of my Ad and gain a client. So it’s definitely not impossible.

I used to get occasional bookings from hour boy as well. I think both M4RN and HourBoy seemed to have just…actually, a quick type into the browser directs hour boy goes to mint boys. So I guess that explains it. Do you or anyone else have luck from HB? I’m moving towards removing my Adam4Adam profile and moreso just doing MintBoys. City to city, I’m barely getting much from the site! Even in San Diego, I had 3 “almost” clients from it, but all 3 were playing games in some way that made the booking to fall thru.

Had a friend suggest to me some casinos in the area to post up in. As in: go, sit and have a drink and maybe chat up someone. I’ve never worked a casino before. I know it’s cameras in all of them. Not that it would need to be obvious, but I also feel such activities are better with a wingman to fall back to in case things go awkward. I made a client at a boutique hotel bar last year. But it was spur of moment and unplanned. I’m just feeling limited relying on the RM and A4A platform (which I decided I’m going to get off because it’s barely making me any money lately). I am working on increasing advertising on mint boys in the lineup. I’m fine with in person scouting at gay bars and clubs, but the guys there usually aren’t looking for a paid arrangement…

@Marc in Calif

I actually started offering 30 minute sessions: but it’s simply a menu item on my website. With there being so many sites not showing rates, or enough options for rates: I like to be creative. I offer 30 minutes all the way up to multi-hours and overnights. 30 minute sessions are popular in Europe and in female and trans providers. I get very few requests for half hours because most like the hour or 90 minute sessions. But I offer them as an incentive to get a start. I did one few weeks ago and it worked out as intended: he only had a short work break and I was needing to check out of my room soon. 30 minute bookings come in handy during morning hotel visits when I’m busy, or for clients who just wish to s**k c**k only to finish, which usually doesn’t take more than 15-20 minutes of our time. I think what set him off was the word: sorry. I once heard a judge say: “Don’t say sorry, you’re admitting to guilt”. In your case, you made the assumption of being guilty of a timewaster, even if that wasn’t your intent. I think you should have countered your offer then, versus leave the conversation hanging. I will admit though: I don’t side with that particular escort’s response because volunteering $60 is putting words in your mouth, which just isn’t mature. I think he lost his cool (which many of us do at times)…but I disagree that you were at fault. The escort should have had a better way of dealing with the question, it’s not like you said, “I only have $60” in which case, he could have said he doesn’t have sessions for $60. However, I don’t think scolding and talking smack back and forth did any Justice either. I dislike when clients try to argue with me. No need to get offended and sassy. Proper thing would have been to say, “oh no of course I wouldn’t lowball you for $60, lol. I was moreso thinking like $250 for 30 minutes”. But I wouldn’t even do that because it’s like kissing up to someone who’s already accuse you of being cheap…which idk, don’t feel is good etiquette. Perfect… And yes, the bitchy ball is thrown around far too much. This is another reason I ask for deposits on my site. Few clients argue much about that. It’s either do or don’t. Saves a lot of time bickering back and forth with people over rates. One guy 100 miles away in Orange County California said lmao 🤣 and blocked me when I asked him to send a $15 Consultation fee because: he asked for a session in 2 days, but couldn’t host nor had a specific time in mind on the day he asked for…And didn’t send deposit either. So why the heck would I even put any thought into that? So just to test him further, I asked and sure enough: he scurried away. If $15 offends him, certainly my full hour session is way out of his reach. I got a good laugh too because I booked someone that day who did send a deposit, and I hosted.

I kinda forgot about dayuse this trip, but good point. I think that would be great to do when I need a hotel early morning. But I usually want to keep the room for the rest of the day/night. Having to check in and check out within hours seems like A waste. Even staying overnight in a hotel barely feels like enough time for me. I also pack a lot of luggage with things I need in each bag. I haven’t quite mastered the art of “packing light” when it comes to 3-4 week trips lol. I literally use everything I bring. However: that’s something I would suggest to a client in the future if they can’t host, in the event I have a place to stay but just can’t host. Remember: the price of the room technically comes out of my fee. If I’m spending $80-100 on a room, and my visit is 275/300: that’s really only 180-200 I’m actually getting. And if it’s only 1 person show up that afternoon/booked slot: then that’s all I get. Not terrible, but not great either if it’s not happening everyday/few times a week. If I could get each inquiry as they come in: maybe. But majority wants to play games and be on BS. Or they have limited windows. And in my observation; and has been said: it’s hard to get some to COME when I AM in a hotel. The only way I find works for me: is getting deposit and having them confirm/commit. But I’m not going to just rent a room just to hangout, unless in a case like tonight: I just happened to need one anyway and didn’t have a choice because my 2 crash pad options fell thru. And I checked the prices in San Diego: it’s just as much as a night in a typical hotel. It’s less than the overnight rate, but I’m from Orlando by the way of Texas. I am accustom to those rates for a night. Obviously in California the hotels want to break your fucking legs and your pockets on weekends (was seeing stuff at basic hotels for $200-300 a night around Los Angeles and Palm Springs last weekend). I don’t do these cross country tours often, but partly because it’s so unpredictable what the hotels will charge day to day. It’s always some silly sporting event or college activity going on that has nothing to do with me. If I don’t have reliable people to stay with, I’m draining my finances or even risking not having a place to stay at all. I’m about to revert back to removing all nude pics. No free entertainment. But it’s hard when other guys are showing full on dick and ass…but at some point in life, I just have to be different than the rest. Can’t follow the crowd.

As a native of Florida, I feel San Diego is the big brother of Tampa, Florida. However, I don’t feel like I’m in Tampa here because the proximity to the border, the hills and layout of the city It seems the California cities encompass more than 1 east coast twin: Los Angeles is Miami and Atlanta combined, San Francisco is DC and Fort Lauderdale combined. San Diego is a twin is Tampa and San Antonio Texas. Especially the large military presence and the endless lukewarm days, cold nights, which you don’t get in Florida like this. Was out in Coronado beach yesterday and even with the sun over head, it was just…chilly unless you were walking on pavement. It’s just an uncompromising double standard out here though. They want me to host, but then don’t want to send deposit or want to low ball my rates. Hotels here are expensive. I didn’t even have a confirmed client the first 7 days I was here. I had funds set aside from the first week of my tour coming down from Arizona. If a client seems sincere, I tell them: “I’m a guest at a friend’s place. I can host, but need a confirmed booking if I do so”. If I spend 3-4 nights in hotels here at these prices…I’m going to burn thru all my earnings before I can even be guaranteed I’m going to make it back. Yet people want to complain about a measly $50-100 deposit. It also doesn’t matter if I’m already at the hotel or not. I get tired of people making it like, “Don’t get a room just for me”. Like hello genius : I’m going to stay at the room too. Use common sense. But I’m not going to stay there by default if I can stay elsewhere for free. It’s non of their business what I’m doing with the hotel. All I ask is money down when I’m hosting. Period. Even the other day: I had already had a hotel booked, because I needed room to breathe from friends place. I still asked the client for $20 deposit, as the room was booked by one of my regular clients in a different state, as a courtesy. So I had to ensure I put my regular security measure in place. Point on point. It’s very flaky, but I’ve met some great people here as well. Clients and guys at the nightclubs (Granted one was from Europe so, he technically didn’t compare to the typical scene guys here…which reminds me of the flaky Orlando guys I used to couldn’t stand when I lived there either). I have noticed new escorts seem to pop up here everyday/week. It’s not as competitive and over saturated as Los Angeles (Where the first page has all platinum boosted ads). But it’s still grounds for making it hard to nail clients down due to the plethora of options, though I somewhat stand out here more. Idk, like I said: all of America cities are just over-done. I want to focus on the success and not highlight the negative, but having a bunch of unreliable ones and only a handful of serious ones, just puts a damper on things. I don’t need to see clients everyday, or multiple times a day. I can, but it’s not required. All I need is perhaps a client every other day, or a staggered. Like this weekend, I had a client Friday but Saturday and Sunday nobody. Somebody should have shown up, but the 2-3 I was working with all bailed. It’s that kind of stuff that messes up the flow.

Good points! I’m currently in the SoCal area and there’s so many liars and bullshitters. If people didn’t lie and bullshit so much, I wouldn’t have to ask for deposits. But, until that happens…approximately the same time that hell freezes over, I just have to continue. I had a hot young 21 year old college kid send me a deposit for a booking, over the weekend. At this point: nobody has any excuse. I’m done with excuses. Any excuses means the person just wants to exercise a power trip over me, is likely racist, Flake, fake, or full of shit.

I was happy to come out to San Diego area to get a break from the dreary Midwest winter. Been able to stay in the area temporarily, so it’s been a bit longer than previous trips where I was in/out within a couple or so days. This time it’s been a couple weeks. I won’t say the area “sucks” or that I haven’t met some fun clients. However, I just find it very challenging to work out here. For one: inquiries here have been numerous, but irregular. Many replies go unresponsive. It’s not been “slow” but it’s been slow in the amount of serious people out here. I’ve also been doing mainly outcalls, because I’m staying “remotely” at a friend’s house, so I’m not just draining money on these expensive hotels everyday waiting for calls: but I have figured out which hotels/air bnbs in town I’d like to stay if I do get a booking to host: Except all my serious bookings have been Outcalls, and the ones trying to get me to host have not been reliable, so end up not meeting. At this point, I’m just feeling over it. I been eagerly needing to escape my horrid home area market which has almost put me out of commission. This is still better than that, because at least I’m getting calls…But the turnover has been high. Not to mention it’s so expensive here, I can’t even get into a decent hotel to host. Even with AAA, points, and 3rd party discount sites: I’ve not found a way to justify dropping a load of money on a room. In fact I did that last week for 2 nights: nobody showed up or followed directions. Just wasted money. Hopefully the weekend brings about better results. It seems most of my bookings have been then. But overall, it’s been a nice stay, though much more riff raff than desired.

In your defense, it sounds definitely like a bad batch…but I’ve seen first hand situations where clients have told me about getting burned, and then I see why. I had to tell one guy who kept having unfortunate luck with guys he was flying in: don’t be flying in escorts you haven’t met yet. I know people do it but, at the end of the day you don’t them and they don’t know you. The was pretty jaded but I’m like: RentMen isn’t as professional as one may think. They aren’t an employer and we don’t have bosses to report to so, each person is going to have their own definition of doing biz. I don’t let clients fly me in, I go on tour or will plan a visit to a city with a deposit…but providing my own transportation and accommodations. If it’s small market, they’ll be my only client but larger markets I’ll try to stick around and book others. Now earlier tonight I did see someone without a deposit: but it was an Outcall and the guy was pretty adamant he didn’t know how to do it (only God knows, right?) In which case, I made an exception. However…most times my intuition steers me in the right direction, and so many people want bookings but don’t want to confirm with deposits. I was watching a news segment earlier about employees and the changing workforce, and someone said, employees don’t want to work the way they used to (before Covid). They want work from home/this and that etc etc. And I’m feeling the same way. I don’t want to keep doing it like I did back in 2015. My face is there, my nudes is there, my reviews are there, everything is there. For some faceless, anonymous, can’t write in complete sentence fucking guy to tell me “he’s not comfortable” or “Doesn’t do Deposits” Is bullshit. Guys have to learn to approach each provider differently. Saying someone is a scam or thinking they are a scam because of a deposit, is like me saying a client is likely scam because they want me to host, or want late night, or ask my rates on RentMasseur despite it being displayed. I’m sure most wouldn’t think of that being very nice. So likewise, can’t say someone asking deposits is either.

Mine isn’t a sob story. It’s just a reinforcement bulletin for myself and to others about what usually happens when allowing people to get around deposits. Clients here have lots of stories, but no messages screenshot. I’m actually SHOWING what happens. Maybe he blocked you because you only sent $40 instead of $60? I mean…I wouldn’t do that personally but perhaps it just set the wrong tone. Now: going back to hotels. I disagree. I actually just sent a hotel an email because they wanted to charge me a $100 deposit to check in, when on their site it says nothing to the effect. So I walked away and they tried to charge me for a night. I explained that their site only showed deposit for pets or cash paying customers. I think it’s discrimination. Here’s a screenshot of the hotel details highlighting what their deposit was asked for. So why the fuck they want me to pay $100 deposit? I have no pets and was paying with card. It’s bullshit. But that’s also why I charge higher deposits to host. When I have to book a room when traveling, I have to ensure my hotel account has enough to cover room and possible deposit before I even get paid. And lately seems most clients can’t host and few if any are at hotels anymore. It was much easier not to ask for deposits when more clients hosted the booking! Like I said: the game is, anytime someone talks smack about a deposit…I’ll show an example of someone who reached out to me, and didn’t respond to my request to send a deposit: and then had a long list of warnings by other providers. It’s like, put 2 and 2 together. Am I more worried about offending guys with a deposit, or do I need to make sure I don’t end up broke because I’m spending my own $$$ upfront for guys who may have no intent of following thru? I’m not here to change the world. I’m just sharing my experience and observations. And FYI: just today I asked for $25 deposit, and guy sent my full donation. I didn’t ask for it, and since it was late at night: If I was a shitty person, I could have just blocked him, went to bed and put my phone on silent 😴 But with integrity, I got dressed and drove 25 minutes across the city at midnight. It was fun, but…it wasn’t quite the type of session I normally engage in, But I performed duty as to not ruin the world’s perception of sending a sex worker funds to confirm I’m legit.

You have to be able to decipher to difference. I have had some straight up (as in this message) say, “but I’m not going to go to your site and send anything”. You don’t walk into someone’s store and start saying what you’re not going to do. You’re bossing me around. Get out…Especially if it says it on the ad or profile. Like one guy said to me: If he was really serious, why would he go from messaging me on Adam where I have my number and sent my business card, to messaging me at the Thrift Store of hookup apps? (And anytime I find a client picking around in the bargain bin…I wonder if he’s serious or is he hoping to find it for free and just keeping me on standby). It’s all about respect. But sadly, I think too many people are bent on trying to win versus respecting another’s way of doing things. They allow fear and control to rule their approach, versus trying to be amicable and trust the person at hand.