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1. tommybeach from Only Fans. His piercing green eyes and bulky frame to go along with his terrific rate are why I consider him the best in South Florida. 
2. miamihungmuscle from rent men. He is an actual professional massage therapist by trade, so he's already great at the "before it gets fun" part. 
3. Manofsteel10 from friend boy. The reference is more to his tool than his physique, but is a marvel to see.
 

I reached out, but his rates are a little bit crazy [to me].
Spa rate (with many limitations): $250
Deli Rate: $450 or $550 (can't remember)
 
 

Nice guy, looks like pics, but the dirtiest apartment I have ever seen. Will not repeat. Great massage by his neighbor Dino.

I saw him just before Covid and he was clean (I think the hygiene stuff is bull) and the massage was good.  Was planning on seeing him again as an escort but since Covid it sounds like his service isn't as good as it was so I'll probably pass.  People change and they can get a bit jaded...maybe that is what happened to him.

Hey @TipsyMcstagger, I am not sure that he was overhyped or that his sessions changes. My first experience with him matched the hype, but progressively matched exactly what you described. 😕 

Yeah, I did go a third time, and it was disappointing.
He was late to buzz me up, and still had me out within less than 90 minutes (I paid for 2 hours). Before the session, I asked him if it's the same rate as always, he said it was. He texted me (politely) after  to tell me he believes that I shorted him money. I told him to scroll up, but still venmoed him the difference of what he wanted, but with a personal resolution that in his case, it's his character, not his skills, that are not professional or attractive to me in any way.
I hope you guys don't go through any of that with him if you try. It's unfortunate, I felt our rapport in person was good.

It was that the therapeutic in the first one was actually really good, and for the rate, it was worth doing.

Yeah, I did go a third time, and it was disappointing.
He was late to buzz me up, and still had me out within less than 90 minutes (I paid for 2 hours). Before the session, I asked him if it's the same rate as always, he said it was. He texted me (politely) after  to tell me he believes that I shorted him money. I told him to scroll up, but still venmoed him the difference of what he wanted, but with a personal resolution that in his case, it's his character, not his skills, that are not professional or attractive to me in any way.
I hope you guys don't go through any of that with him if you try. It's unfortunate, I felt our rapport in person was good.

Bummer! Itd be real nice if there can be extras because he's quite cute 

I tried to book with him but he was aloof. 

ugh sorry you went through that, and thanks for sharing.  I get the try multiple times as if it is good and there is chemistry either more can happen (and most of has stories of that) or its a good massage and a good rate.
 

Yeah, I did go a third time, and it was disappointing.
He was late to buzz me up, and still had me out within less than 90 minutes (I paid for 2 hours). Before the session, I asked him if it's the same rate as always, he said it was. He texted me (politely) after  to tell me he believes that I shorted him money. I told him to scroll up, but still venmoed him the difference of what he wanted, but with a personal resolution that in his case, it's his character, not his skills, that are not professional or attractive to me in any way.
I hope you guys don't go through any of that with him if you try. It's unfortunate, I felt our rapport in person was good.

Yeah, you said what I was feeling better than I did. 

Ok, I just got back. 10's across the board! Very hot and nice Spanish guy, good massage, clean apartment, nice table, music, candles. Will repeat. Parking a bit tricky due to permits.

My last two experiences with him (the most recent one being within the last month) were not as good as they used to be. His massage remains good and the sensual elements but:

1. He shorted me 30 minutes both times while charging for 90 minutes
2. He's gotten a little bit more aloof when messaging, it was to the point that I was hesitant to continue with the booking
 
I don't know. I feel like there are others that I see that offer at least what he offers and maybe with more skill, so I'm not sure that I'll continue seeing him. I only hesitate because the first few sessions were really amazing and I miss that energy that made it all worth it.

Can mostly second @Enronnjaviews, although less in-shape last week by far than the pics. No abs, a little bit of chub. i still think he was hot, but just saying he doesn't match his photos presently. 60 minute session lasted only 30 minutes though as he was a little excited. Personally, wouldn't repeat.

I don't recommend PersianTouch either. I saw him a few times and have found him consistently cold. The first time, near the beginning of the massage he said something to the effect of 'I'll tell you when you can touch' (I hadn't done anything), so I felt timid to do anything at all. At the end of the massage he told me that it seemed like I didn't find him attractive. I told him that it was the opposite, it was more to do with the initial [stern] order. I repeated a second time, it wasn't a very noteworthy experience. Third time was about a year later and there was just really cold energy. He wasn't as buff at all as his pics, but definitely I found him still to be hot AF. He spoke a lot about how he's a professional and doens't need this (I think he's a physician by day) etc.... It was just weird.

I've seen him. I found that his massage skills are not that bad, but the sensual aspect wasn't worth the price he charges. It might have been more expensive because of his SC and other porn films, but I didn't know about those when I saw him.

I second @Epigonos, i was disappointed. I had been waiting a long time to see him. Very rushed, awkward environment, and clearly just not ‘into it’. i would never repeat. Very business-like.

I do this, too.  If I see him starting to clean up at an hour when we've booked for 90 minutes, I'll say, "For the last 20 minutes, can you focus on my feet and calves?".  I've never had a masseur say no.
One time, I just paid him for the hour rate instead of the 90 minute rate.  He had no problem with that.
But being shortened on time rarely happens.  Most masseurs finish right on time, or even go over by a few minutes and then I tip accordingly.  I always book 2 hour sessions if available.

I work hard to retain my clients. I learn what they like and lean into it. I find my long term client appointments keep getting better and better, both for massage and ‘more’. Some of them transition from the former to the latter, or some combination. The relationship and quality of interaction tends to build up over time rather than erode. I value my clients.
Anyone that felt I shorted them on time I would like to hear directly about it so that I can make it right. I go the whole time, and often a little over. If your guy gaslights or dismisses you when you bring up the time shorting issue, it’s time to move on. This is an expensive service. You’re paying a premium. You deserve quality service for the whole time you booked. Period.
Repeat business is the best and easiest business. It pays to be diligent in providing the full time (quantity) but also quality time matters. Guys that don’t understand this concept baffle me! 
^This is only true if we were paid like a full time employees billing something like 2080 hours per year. Our profession doesn’t work that way. Our booked (and therefore compensated) hours represent a fraction of full time, perhaps 20-30 hours per week. It’s possible, but unusual for a masseur to be booked more than 40 hours per week. At a bare minimum, I have 30 min gaps between back-to-back clients and that prevents me from booking 40+ hours per week, even when every day is 100% booked in a given week.
For some of us with other jobs, we may only book 10-15 hours a week. You better believe we spend 10-20 hours (or more) per week on all the UNPAID (yet necessary) parts of the job like responding to endless inquiries at all hours of the day/night, many of which never lead to a completed appointment. Marketing, client follow up, cleaning, laundry, shopping, continuing education, prep work, personal care, gym (if you count that), client development, outcall transportation to/from clients (including traffic and being early to always arrive on time), equipment setup/takedown, restocking supplies, clients flaking last minute or no-shows, etc…. all take gobs of time.
We are compensated a high rate for the time clients actually book and show up for, NOT for all the other work we do. So cut that $300,000+ “salary” down accordingly. The rates you pay us factor all that extra work in. Some weeks or months are slow. Some days we have no work because of bad weather and clients flake. Other times we travel and have back to back work all day. It varies. 

Agreed. It is disrespectful when time is cut short. For a 60 minute session, the massage should last close to 50 mins with ten minutes allowed to get dressed, clean up, final chat and part ways.   I think with regulars they can start taking you for granted which is unfortunate.  I think it might be unintentional but it lacks professionalism. I agree, play dumb and mention the time issue. Otherwise you will stew and sulk and feel cheated. At the end of the day, it is still a business transaction. Speak up and stand up for yourself. You can do it in a nice polite way. 

I think with all human interactions when you have an uncomfortable situation like being shorted on time and you're afraid to bring up the subject for fear of upsetting the other person......act dumb.
"Oh..are we done already ? I could have sworn I booked for 90 minutes not 60. Am I wrong ? "

I really dislike when my time is cut short, which unfortunately has occurred several times. If it's the first encounter with that provider, I opt not to hire them again. However, if they're a regular provider, I approach the situation differently. I believe some of them may take clients for granted and assume they don't need to put in effort to retain them. Typically, I may lightly mention the issue of ending sessions early, and most providers understand the hint.  If they don't, I'll have a conversation with them before considering hiring them again to address the matter directly.

The word 'relationship' is very flexible, so I wouldn't read too much into it. A professional relationship is still a relationship if it involves periodic contact, whether it's your doctor, accountant or masseur. If you go to the same cafe every morning,  your relationship with your barista is probably one of your closest (and they may know more about you than anyone else!).