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@JDLA welcome to our forum.

I’ve been following this group for a while and finally wanted to share my thoughts. I’ve been to this place, tried most of the therapists, and also met some from RM I usually tip around $60–$100 for 60 mins depending on the service i get.
I was honestly surprised to see some negative comments trying to ruin therapists’ reputations just because expectations weren’t met or someone had a bad experience. If you’re going to share that, you should also mention how long your session was, what you expected (normal massage or extra), and how much you tipped.
I really feel bad for the therapists. They get criticized publicly but don’t get a chance to defend themselves. If you’re unsure about tipping, just check RM and you will get the idea how much should you tip them
I spoke with  a therapist, and he was very open about his experience. After hearing stuffs. It honestly made me feel bad. He said he often gets tips like $20–$30 even with extra service. He was not happy BUT still has to smile and stay professional. If he asks for more, he risks getting accused online of upselling. If he shows he’s unhappy, people review him as rude or arrogant.
All I want to say is just put yourself in their position. Would you be happy doing that work for that amount of money?

I have been to TWS multiple times and have experience with many of their therapists.
while I agree with much of your response, your statement, “especially if there are extras involved, you should tip them even more.” The tips you recommended based on time of appointment don’t reflect an appropriate tip for basic service with no extras, at least based on the starting price. A 50% tip is not the usual amount for most other massage places. 
 
The issue lies in the starting price. The owner or therapists set their starting price very low compared to normal RM rates, and they are taking a risk setting that price so low, that they’re likely going to get customers who see a deal and want to jump on it or attract patrons who normally can’t afford a massage that we all enjoy. That’s a risk that they are taking and they should understand that and be okay with it. If they are not, and they get offended when tips are on the low end, they should increase their prices where they won’t be offended if they get a smaller tip. 
 
With that said, I’ve also had many massages with providers on RM, and understand the value that I get when going to TWS. 
I’ve had 2 90-min massages with therapist where no extras were involved, and I tipped $50. 
 
I’ve had many more “special” 90-Min massages with therapists and I tipped $100 or more. Especially since the therapists at TWS actually give a better therapeutic massages than most on RM or MF. While many aren’t formally trained, they do learn quickly and get markedly better with time. Even at a $200 all-in price point, I think most of can agree that is a steal. 
 
I’ll be heading over there tomorrow and am looking forward to another great massage. 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

Agreed 1000%! I’ve been asked here and RM for “what extras I received and with who” and my answer is always to say that I went in for a massage and then only share my experience with the massage itself. Everything else is and should be private if anything happens and we should never expect to receive anything from anyone. This isn’t a brothel and if it were, some of y’all would be getting kicked out trying to tip the small amounts you’ve been mentioning because they almost insulting. Tip accordingly and tip well. Create a safe space for all and then enjoy the benefits of an amazing massage. 

I’d like to share a quick thought. Recently, I tried sessions with two new therapists, and it gave me some perspective.
It turns out that the spa owners and staff do read the posts in this forum. When it comes to massage quality or communication with clients, they genuinely appreciate feedback and are willing to improve. However, there have been some negative comments that aren’t entirely accurate, and unfortunately, they don’t have a way to publicly respond or clarify those points.
Some of the therapists have also expressed that they would prefer discussions here to focus on the massage itself, rather than other topics. They’ve mentioned feeling uncomfortable and even a bit unsafe,knowing that this is a public forum that anyone, including outside parties or authorities, can access.
For anything beyond general massage experiences, it might be more appropriate to discuss privately via DM. There have also been situations where clients come in expecting specific things because they read about it here, and then try to direct the therapist to do exactly that. It’s important to remember that every therapist has their own boundaries and professional choices, and it’s completely their right to decide what they are or aren’t comfortable offering.
Let’s be respectful of that and avoid putting pressure on them.

Billy advertises a base rate of $130 for a 2 hour session. I think we can all agree that this is an exceptional and low rate even for a one hour massage from most providers on Rent Masseur. 
The "rudeness and storming off" is subjective. But it's not like the providers here don't know that they are priced well below their competitive set in Los Angeles. It behooves the the client to be mindful of that, especially with longer sessions and and "extra service." I don't agree with the behavior that the client says occurred, but a fair amount of grace should be given to Billy, was the client aggressive? Wanted more service than Billy was willing to provide?  Let's be honest that was a poor tip, regardless. This is Los Angeles, not Bangkok 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

Sorry for the delay. I saw Pete. 
 
He’s definitely a little older. Thin guy. Little balding. When he spoke to me his voice sounded a bit gay. I’d guess he’s not out but I had the vibe. 
 
Massage mostly professional. 
 
Feel free to message me for more details. 

Josh is gone. New guy, Pete there now. 
 
I haven’t seen him but thinking of taking one for the team today. 

I look forward to your update on him!

This whole thread made me cackle. Sorry to revive it, but I wanted to note about Troy. He used to be awesome but got popular and went down hill, became really mechanical. To some extent I don't blame him, has to be exhausting. I have seen Theo once and he is at Energy now but I don't remember the experience. I'm trying to decide if it is worth repeating. Anyone have any Intel and know?

I have seen Mitchell before (was a while back) and agree, if you like jockey twinks he is fun.

https://rent.men/PWildBR was a lot of fun as was Enzo https://rent.men/The_enzo.  More of a twink look, but Mitchell was fun as well https://rent.men/WowMitchell
 

Most search engines require at least three characters for searching to limit massive numbers of irrelevant results.  A quick test indicates that is true of CoM's search.

Also wanted to add something that's bugging me about the COM website - you can search "los angeles" but not just "LA" maybe because it's too short? Haha. 

Had one of the best massages of my life from Mike at Prince Men’s Spa in West Hollywood. He’s very professional and provided exactly what I needed. Left completely satisfied and will def go back. 

I tried out Josh at New Self on 3rd at your recommendation @NYMassageAddict and had a wonderful experience. Thanks as always for your recs!

Great description @SubNYCTwink

Totally agree with your assessment, cute and nice but does look a bit different than photos and  does have some facial hair. When I saw him, I would call it a buzz cut but I wouldn’t say shaved head (unless it got shorter since I was there :))
For me I thought the massage was quite enjoyable… 6 or 7 out of 10, and I plan to return, but it’s not an immediate return or rush back (to your point).

It was alright! Haha. One of the better rates I’ve seen in a while. $38/30 mins and $60/hour. I only do 30 mins as I was unsure and wanted to test the waters. It is a very basic set up although seemed very clean with fresh towels etc. curtains instead of doors to the rooms and the walls did not reach the ceilings, so you have to be very quiet and you can hear everyone else. It is mostly women and Josh was the only male masseur I saw. He was handsome, kind of a beefcake build but toned. I’d say late 20s. Nice ending but massage was not very strong. Good for what it was and the price was nice, but the setup isn’t my cup of tea, although I know some people enjoy this sort of thing!