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It might be different for aging gay men because we've faced the reality that there may not be friends or family in a position to care for us, so it's more of a deliberate choice. Nobody "put" us there.

Exactly

Lots of articles locally in last couple of years about multi-generational housing developments. Home is about friends and/or family not about staff (unless you're part of the 1% perhaps).

That might be a smart alternative for me and many other single folks I know.

Aka "independent living community"

 

The thing I've noticed about elder housing is that, no matter how nice it is, none of the residents want to be there. My husband and his sibs found a beautiful place for their mom-it was like a luxury hotel. They literally had to sell the family farm in order to finance it. Yet she never stopped saying that she just wanted to go home.

 

We found an excellent place for my mom, affiliated with Emory University. She managed to tolerate it by spending her time plotting her escape.

Don't blame her one bit. We are very fortunate that my dad has gotten through many typical old age problems (hip, knee) with very difficult physical therapy without having to resort to the downer of assisted or independent living. I guess he could adjust, but it would definitely affect his spirit.

I mostly agree with Judy Garland about Marlene Dietrich's singing.

 

However, The time I saw Judy perform (Christmas, 1967 in New York) she was still very good but not sensational.

 

Look, I am very glad to have seen her in person.

This clip of Garland on the 1st ABC iteration of Cavett has probably been posted before, but I think it is the best example of her talent as an entertainer shining through despite the effects of pills, booze, and who knows what else. Infuriates me to see the occasional snark comments on this clip about her being bombed. Those are the types who never understood her struggles.

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

Honestly, it should be the one that feels right for you. As long as you're not snide or "take it or leave it", you shouldn't have to be self conscious about a response. Btw the guy you referenced in the other thread is a schmuck. He will have his comeuppance.

Throw in the whispered about affair with Greta Garbo and you have the makings of a fascinating portrait.

According to her daughter, Dietrich and Garbo were also fierce competitors. And maybe Marlene was a bit jealous. But her first comment upon learning of Garbo's death was, "she always smelled like pee."

With the exception of "Wtness for the Prosection," her films are mostly forgotten. Yes?

I would agree with that. I'm mainly referring to her career post films. Wasn't she in Destry Rides Again?

I can attest to that. More and more, some straight guys don't care about the mouth sucking their cock, as long as it's getting sucked well. Just don't try to kiss them.

 

Regardless of what you see in porn, a lot of women hate sucking cock, especially large cock. A lot of women complain about hating pre-cum. It can make them gag.

Yes, that was the case way back when in my youth.

Would you like to start a thread about seducing straight men?

Haha I'm a bit out of practice, but the str8 men i'm talking about would require little in the way of seduction. More like a beer or two, perhaps a shot of Rumplemintz for the more resistant.

people like to brag, most of the times is imaginary and a cheap way to get back at life just with a text.

I've never gotten close to paying 500 for 3 days of someone in Honolulu or 200 for an overnight anywhere. But I can tell you there are still penniless straight guys who will unzip or more for 100. Harder to find these days, but still available.

Who else thinks the OP really did want to haggle? I don’t believe the “I don’t want to haggle” line as you immediately negotiated and then are upset when he dumped you at your low ball price. Just sayin’

 

If you want first class service don’t fly Spirit.

M4M Forum Reporter:

Client Smith posted his account of an exchange between himself and Escort Wiseass, detailing how the escort agreed to work for a lower rate if Mr Smith would meet him very soon. According to Smith, Mr. Wiseass deliberately led him to believe that the two gents would meet at Smith's apartment at 7pm. However, wiseass pulled a fast one, backing out of the agreement because he claimed that another client was going to pay his stated rate and more. After a few helpful posts responding to Mr. Smith's dilemma, things quickly devolved into a free for all pie fight following the member's post quoted above. Was the OP genuine in claiming he had no desire to haggle with Escort Wiseass? Was it right to question OP's premise? Several members threw full pies; some threw slices here and there; some just threw a bit of shade. Forum administrators report no serious injuries. In the end, the question of who was in the right was never resolved. The only thing we know is that a childish, smart ass escort was so offended that he tricked a client into preparing for a commitment he did not intend to honor, triggering what could have been a blood bath.

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Are people who watch programs in 2019 to 2022 interested in Dietrich in the 1960s?

I for one can't wait for a Dietrich mini biopic, though it might have to be a bit sensational for ratings. I read her daughter's biography of her a few years back. As I recall, her life by the 60s was constant tension between booze and the ability to constantly reinvent. All of this was before her famous London encore in the early 70s. I think she was a genius.

Are people who watch programs in 2019 to 2022 interested in Dietrich in the 1960s?

No more than they were interested in a series about Joan Crawford and Bette Davis in 2018 (Feud). That did reasonably well, right?

Mr. Murphy is a busy man and is lining up several broadway inspired new productions and adaptations.

 

Ryan Murphy will continue his pursuit of bringing Broadway to the small screen with a limited series based on the Tony- and Pulitzer Prize-winning musical 1975 A Chorus Line. The 10-part adaptation is in the early stages of development as part of the media mogul's deal with Netflix.

No word yet on a production timeline for the project, or further details—including how Murphy intends to expand the 100-minute musical into a long-form

Murphy, who won a Tony Award earlier this year for the revival of The Boys in the Band, is also developing a Netflix adaptation of said Mart Crowley play, as well as a movie version of the recent Broadway comedy The Prom (with a cast including Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, and James Corden).

Additional Netflix projects include the upcoming anthology series The Politician starring Ben Platt (premiering September 27), the One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest prequel Ratched with Sarah Paulson, and Hollywood, starring Holland Taylor and the newly announced Patti LuPone.

WATCH: Ben Platt, Jessica Lange, and Gwyneth Paltrow in New Trailer for The Politician

A Chorus Line, conceived by director-choreographer Michael Bennett and featuring a score by Marvin Hamlisch and Edward Kleban, navigates the high-energy and heartbreaking process of auditioning for a Broadway musical, informed by the accounts of the performers who first brought the show to life.

Since its 15-year original Broadway run, the musical was revived on Broadway in 2006 and returned to New York City as part of City Center's 75th anniversary season. It was previously adapted for the screen, albeit in a film widely considered unsuccessful, in 1985.

When does this man sleep? And how many arms does he have?

Caveat: he asks for a deposit before-hand.

Just say no

I went home a few years ago to consider moving back to be closer to extended relatives upon retiring. I discovered after 30 plus years living in DC that the slow pace, the suburban sprawl, the crappy economy, and mentality ruled out the option for me. I’d likely die of boredom. So it’s back to the drawing board and the search is ongoing.

It may be hugely expensive and excessively touristy , but what about Providence? **Said largely out of limited knowledge**

Watching this long conversation unfold

Hope you got the jumbo crate from Sam's Club. This might have several more 6 episode seasons.

When looking for a new place to retire, one should also try to consider the possibility that you may be retired for a long time. When you are in your 70s and 80s, your wants and needs will probably turn out to be somewhat different from what you wanted and needed in your 60s, and you don't want to be stuck in the wrong place if you no longer have the means or energy to move again. When my parents retired at 65, they relocated to the perfect place for them. But as a new widow at 75, my mother realized that it no longer met her needs, and she relocated to yet another completely new area, which was just right--at that time. At 89, that place no longer worked for her, and she had to make another major relocation. Before retiring anywhere, it's worthwhile to project what your life is going to be like if you live there ten or twenty years from now.

And there's the dilemma for the few of us who, unless we win the lottery or inherit a windfall, may not have the luxury of fully retiring until our bodies retire. What then?

In the 1960s, my best friend was stationed at the Air Force base in Wichita. He loved the town and its gay community. Then he got caught up in an Air Force witch hunt for gay personnel in Wichita who were interacting with the local community, and was arrested by military police at the home of his civilian boyfriend. He was discharged, along with several of his comrades, and his boyfriend said he never wanted to see him again, because the exposure had ruined his life in Wichita. I have been to Kansas a few times, but I have never had any desire to visit Wichita.

So sorry to hear that. Must have been one of those post- WWII periods in which a)the military felt pressure to purge its ranks of perverts and b) it could spare the personnel.

And now some scenes from next week's presentation of Victorien Sardou's classic melodrama, " Les rues de Montreal"....

I have a lot of relatives in Emporia KS-very pretty town. Pretty conservative, I suspect.

Yes, probably conservative. But conservative here tends to be a bit more subdued than Texas and much of the South. Fred Phelps and his ilk are very much the exception.

Yes, Wichita (or ICT as the boys there say) is a cool place. I'm about 2 hrs away, so I visit (or fly out of) regularly. Too bad they can't get better fares to Chicago, etc.

I thought Judy was quoting a gay retiree when she said "we're not in Kansas anymore" (I quite liked Kansas City when I was there a few years ago in the early Fall.)

I really mean small town Kansas well west and south of KC. The KC area and exurbs as far as Lawrence serve as moderate to liberal oases. But you'd be surprised at the number of small towns here that have gay couples who are quite happy.

Hey guys, love this forum!

What is good client etiquette at a strip club?

I have heard guys refer to great lap dances and lame ones.

 

Any advice or inside information is appreciated! Feel free to PM me if that is more appropriate.

 

Thanks!

Depends on where u are. The trend in most U.S.

clubs that have stripping as their main attraction seems to be more teasing, less contact. And the customer is expected to keep his distance beyond tipping and, maybe, a private lap dance. But in a few cities, particularly New Orleans, the culture and attitude of the city is reflected in the clubs. The Corner Pocket has been around for over 30 years, and though the city clamps down on what the dancers and customers can do now and then, it still has a very lax attitude about contact between customers and dancers. How much contact is largely up to the dancers (on most nights). As long as you tip bartender and dancers consistently, you will have few limits in New Orleans. Other places I'm not as familiar. For more feel free to pm.

For that matter, the wide open skies of Nebraska or Wyoming are appealing, yet I expect the worldview of peeps that live there could affect finding a happy, gay retirement life.

Don't forget Kansas!