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Could it be like what sometimes happens in Montreal -- a client pays a dancer big $$$ to hang around with him all evening?

Even on PM. I promised.

I know from (an unexpected) personal experience that not all of the masseurs on that site are straight nor are they all strictly therapeutic. This was a "YMMV" situation. I can't share any details.

He was a welcome and ubiquitous presence in Chicago theater. Here's a wonderful obit which describes him very well.

Don't need that comma in the title.

In another thread in this forum, It would be interesting to delve into this more deeply. My experiences -- by now, pretty extensive -- have been in Montreal and Fort Lauderdale, and I certainly agree that there has been a downturn in both since I started visiting 15 years ago. But it's hard for me to disentangle the many potential factors in that downturn. For example: novelty wears off. I was like a kid in a candy store at the beginning; that can't last. For me, high tide in Montreal was approximately 2003-2007. Is 2007 when grindr et. al. began being a big factor in hook-up culture? Don't know. There are also differences between those two cities (and, who knows, between their internet cultures). Fort Lauderdale always had more volatility for me -- rarely had 2 consecutive terrific days (nights? ) there, even at its best. Like Jake, I still have a great time in Montreal -- but the range of choices is smaller than it used to be. Comments?

This may not be relevant to your situation, but it illustrates the kinds of things that can happen. A few years ago, someone I had been seeing regularly in Montreal abruptly flaked on me. To set the scene: we met early in the week and had something set up a few days later. That morning we exchanged texts setting a time; he also sent me some family pictures. He never showed up and never responded to my texts from then on. Fast forward a year or so. I mention my experience to another escort who knows him quite well. His response: most likely my guy had been arrested that day and has been too embarrassed to stay in touch. (I knew that my guy was a "bad boy" -- not in any way that impacted on our encounters --but that had never occurred to me.)

So I've just resumed watching House of Cards, starting from Season 2 (I watched the first season a few years ago while renting an airbnb) and immediately fell in lust with Edward Meechum. Something about his face.... Near the end of the second season, there's an amazing 2 minutes or so where Frank comes home to find Edward and Claire a little drunk. The ensuing is compellingly erotic. What top-quality acting can do, I guess. Tossup whether this belongs here or in the Deli....

Thanks very much! Now that I know I have some time (see post above), I can try these out at my leisure.

That's encouraging -- I'm using Deluxe 2016, so maybe I have 5 more years before I need to switch -- a lot can happen in 5 years. If you do try something else that you like, please let me know.

@freecahill1965 , @SundayZip: Quicken has now moved to a subscription model which will be quite expensive. Coupled with the flakiness of the software, I'm actively looking for a replacement. Any suggestions? (Maybe I need to make this a new thread.)

I love that expression...but what does it mean? And what's its origin?

That happened to me once. My workaround was to email a good friend (whom I met through PM's here, by the way) who I thought knew the member I wanted to contact. He asked permission to pass on the member's email address, which was then sent to me.

Oh.... I have (so far) never received a query like those. I have occasionally received a PM that I've ignored (usually from someone who seems to be trying to pick a fight about something I posted publicly). My question, though, was about whether PM's you send have recently started getting ignored when they hadn't been in the past.

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I have long used PM's to get additional information about guys mentioned here. Over the years, I have been directed to some real gems and avoided some bad situations -- and, I hope, have provided the same service to others. Only very rarely have I not received a response to a private query (less than once a year). In the 10 days since nsguy45 started the thread on the dangers of PM's, 2 PM's I sent have have languished unanswered. I can't help wondering if this is coincidence or a direct effect of nsguy45's warning. Has anyone else experienced this?

Peter -- do you have personal or second-hand knowledge of cases in which male LE engaged in sexual acts with male escorts (for entrapment purposes)? We've discussed from time to time on this forum the fact that the "younger" generation is not (so) hung-up about gay/straight labels, and I'm wondering whether those attitudes extend to younger cops and make them willing to do things that their older colleagues would have avoided.

One experienced escort I knew made it a point to start his sessions -- the very first thing -- with a very deep French kiss. Usually in the elevator on the way up to the room. He claimed that law enforcement would resist. I don't recall how he handled the phone/email/text negotiations beforehand, but I'm sure that he was careful not to say anything that implied the exchange of sex for money.

I really wish Chase would offer 50s as an option -- either with, or in place of, 100s.

Exactly my reaction. I am loathe to give up the information-sharing that goes on in PM's, which has been very valuable to me (and vice-versa, I hope). It would be almost impossible for someone who doesn't already know me to deduce anything that would identify me from what I write, and I don't believe anything I've written in a PM would allow an escort or masseur to identify me. I don't share my participation here with guys I hire (other than those who have become friends). I will be a little more aware of what I write in PM's in the future, but I'm not going to stop.

I was there a couple of weeks ago and had a great time at Johnson's. They are working hard at making it a good experience for customers and dancers alike. Still seem to be experimenting with the pricing -- as of my visit, they were open every night except Mondays, with a $5 cover charge on Sun, Tu, Th, no cover charge on Wed, and a $10 cover on F, Sat. They also didn't require a $10 lap dance wristband on the Tuesday I was there, perhaps because they had just started having dancers on Tuesdays. There is a separate, small, quiet bar where it's easy to carry on a conversation. But even in the main room where the dancers are, the sound is kept at a reasonable level. There's a waiter in the main room and the drinks are not unduly expensive -- $3 for a coke, for example (but $7 for a beer). It reminds me a little of Stock in Montreal. But the room, while nicely furnished and arranged, has a more intimate feel than Stock. And 95% of the dancers smiled, made eye contact, and actually danced (or did pole rountines) on stage -- no "muscle shuffle." There is a fair amount of on-site parking which fills up at busy times. There is paid on-street parking and a municipal (paid) parking lot with lots of space is only a block away on 26th Street. By the way, a friend and I stopped in at Boardwalk around 8:30 pm one evening, thinking to scope it out before the 9 pm cover charge took effect. Guess what? Boardwalk is now charging a cover starting at 8 pm, PLUS they have a 2 drink/$20 minimum. (This was a week night.)

Thanks, all, for the enlightenment. I actually saw and enjoyed "Night of the Walking Dead" but didn't retain that piece of information.

Got to agree with Kevin on this...but worth seeing for the eye candy.

Don't understand "...born dead as a result of being a fetus in y mother when she was turned." Is turned a new euphemism?

Don't get your heart set on any particular dancer...even if the website is up to date (which it isn't), dancers often decide at the last minute whether to work on a particular day or whether to quit altogether. You're reading conflicting accounts because there is no hard and fast rule about these things. They will get naked on stage for part of their routines. They almost always walk around shirtless when they're not on stage (this is usually a management requirement), and some will wear revealing shorts or underwear as well. Only twice in all my visits have I seen a dancer walking around completely nude when not on stage. PS It will be fucking cold in Montreal in January, with wind chills not to be believed. Pack appropriately!