Jeffster

The funniest part about these self-professed alphas who mistake their anger and self-loathing for “alpha-ness” is now quickly they turn into subs behind closed doors.

When I was a starting-out muscleboy living in Venice, I was picked up at a bar by another musclehead (let’s call him XXXXX) was a few years farther along in his progress. He played the alpha role to the T, and me being younger and eager to learn, I was attracted to that. 
 

He had a phenomenal body; looked like a handsome Marine and had the attitude to go along with his attributes. Sadly, I was a little too alpha and independent for him, and that was it. He couldn’t control me.

I’d see him around…sometimes working as a personal trainer, barking orders at people and generally playing the alpha role to the  T.

Every so often he’d call; tell me he had been watching me in the gym (by this point, I was 230 (5’9”) at 10 percent body fat) and told me he wanted me to come over so he could “use” me. I declined  each time. I was no wallflower, and was hooking up at least twice a day. It was just that I wasn’t into all the anger and self-loathing. He became notorious and the stories circulated about his antics….always about him losing his temper and treating guys really poorly.

After a couple of years, the muscleboy circuit was saturated with the stories and he became somewhat unpopular. 

i was at a party one day and was approached by two musclehead boyfriends from West Hollywood. We had seen each other at parties but never chatted before. They knew somehow that I lived in Venice and asked me if I knew XXXXX). I said yes but left it at that, assuming they were friends. They proceeded to tell me about how they had picked up XXXXX, and once they got him back to their house, he begged to be chained to where they chained their dog on the porch, and made to eat out of their dog’s dish. He begged to be “owned” by them. There were a few other details which escape me now, but it was all quite interesting.

I have nothing against fetishes but, in his case, this just kind of confirmed to me that he really was just a tortured soul wearing an alpha mask. He disappeared pretty quickly after that and I’ve always wondered what happened to him.

I will always give him credit for pushing me from mere muscleboy to a monster. I was very young, and those years in Venice and Hollywood were amazing, and for me, especially so. I was gainfully employed and didn’t have to scrounge for a living, and when I wasn’t working out, eating or sleeping, I was having sex. 

5 hours ago, xyz48B said:

I know I said I don’t pay deposits. I like to buy other things that show good faith, but I got burnt badly with deposit once (long story) so I don’t do it anymore.

That said, a new guy I’m looking to see in three weeks mentioned in texting tonight he’s stressed about cash for upcoming travel. I will be in a better position to help him come March 1. I suggested possibly giving him some money before we meet if he took it off my “bill.” But I wonder if I’m falling for a trick that will burn me.

We’ve chatted on the phone and he sounds genuine. We text, not a lot but maybe once a day 5-6 texts. He seems busy/distracted but that’s potentially his age and other factors. I don’t expect him to dedicate his day to texting me. I feel comfortable by the interaction I’ve had with him, but when I step back, I’m like…Are you falling victim again?

I generally like to be good to providers. I've found it pays in the end, and it’s also just the decent thing to do. But I also have to look out for me…

Comments, thoughts, opinions. Maybe some advice…I’m asking for it this time 😉 But please be reasonable and polite…

I’d be interested to hear how he defines a “real good job.”

The desperation is real.

His ad disappeared soon after the got a really bad one star review.

im guessing he was a fake, 

15 hours ago, davebk said:

It always blows my mind that people care about a man's politics when hiring.  

I've been with Adam - he's a little clean cut for my taste, but a great guy.  He was friendly, hot, kissed like a champ, and easy to get along with.  No complaints from me and I'd rehire.

It wouldn’t be an issue if he knew how to control himself and keep his mouth shut with clients. 

I guess his whining and tantrums on Twitter about not being able to find a sugar daddy didn’t work. 

36 minutes ago, Skip said:

As I said I have spent a lot of time with Adam, a week on a cruise. He is a delightful companion, drop dead good looking and great in bed. His politcal views are extreme but harmless. Would I see him again, probably, his good points outweigh his bad. Like anyone else, including a lot of family members, certain topics you just don't talk about. And in short meetings, you would never know. So while I don't agree with him and find him tedious if provoked, we have probably beat up on this poor guy enough. 

His views are extreme but not harmless. 
 

And, if a session with him requires walking on egg shells so as not to rile him, there’s a problem. 

47 minutes ago, Todd Jenkins said:

So, again, any gay that does not 'toe the line' is the problem. 

NOT ALL GAYS ARE DEMOCRATS! Grow the F up! PEOPLE CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES! YOU are the problem, not the men who think for themselves!!

 

It’s always the one telling people to “Grow the F up!” who rants like an absolute madman. 

2 minutes ago, Todd Jenkins said:

So, again, any gay that does not 'toe the line' is the problem. 

NOT ALL GAYS ARE DEMOCRATS! Grow the F up! PEOPLE CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES! YOU are the problem, not the men who think for themselves!!

 

Gays supporting Trump would be like Jews supporting Hitler. 

Sadly, history is rife with groups supporting ideologies and demagogues which would ultimately…when given a chance…do them harm

47 minutes ago, Beancounter said:

Did you even bother to read the comments in this thread?  The provider in question doesn’t discuss politics with his clients. I don’t think he’s the nutcase in this thread. 

You sound as nutty as the provider. There are several posts on this thread about his political, social and racist rants with clients. 
 

Only a week ago, you yourself posted a warning not to bring up politics with him. 
 

You wrote, “one caveat, though.  Don’t discuss politics with him.  You probably won’t like what you hear.” Others report provider-initiated rants.   

The guy’s got issues, and apparently so do you. He’s just a self-loathing gay man who thinks the people he’s aligned with think of him as one of them. 
 

He sounds like a nutcase. If he can’t manage to keep politics out of a session where he’s being paid to provide sexual services, he’s got issues. 

1 hour ago, Emir said:

Imagine contacting him for a session and THAT ends up standing on your doorstep. 

A few months ago, I contacted a local LA muscled provider for a session. The guy was dismissive, sarcastic and rude AF. Like REALLY rude and condescending. Not just cocky as part of the whole alpha thing. (I’m alpha too).

No way was I going to engage that total jerk further. I hadn’t shared any details about myself.

Fast forward to a few days ago…I had been away from my IG for a few months. I log in and find a message from the very same guy. He sent me a message, “You are so fuckin’ HOT. Let’s fuck.”

Of course, he didn’t know that I was the one willing to pay for a session just a few months ago. His loss. 
 

2 hours ago, musclesformeplease said:

He doesnt think he has sugar daddies.....buddy please. He's got plenty of them. 

Vin/Danny’s only interested in people he thinks he can take advantage of. 

55 minutes ago, Luvfurrytops said:

Did you hire him or based on his profile and fee?

My opinion based on profile and fee. 

🙄🙄🙄🙄

https://rent.men/Valentinooficial
 

Looks hot but I’m wondering what “party only” means. Possibly a language thing? 
 

Anybody with info on him?

Only 4 reviews, and IMHO he’s just MEH. Nice cock but the rest of him is not $400.

Not really my idea of an Italian “Stallion.” More like a Bel Ami reject. 
 

…but that’s just me.

A response of “Pics?” from a provider whose only pics show him from the neck up? 🤣

He sounds like a real charmer.

Damn. He’s sexy, 😍

He’s back under yet another name. I don’t know when he participated in this forum but all these name changes…Wow. What’s he hiding?

https://rentmen.eu/CountryBoymuscle/#platinum