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I proposed a massage trade with BigTallMuscle some months back earlier in 2023. Never got to see him mostly due to travel and schedule conflicts. He was hesitant to meet, telling me he didn’t think he could control himself enough to get through it with professionalism lol! Apparently he had a crush on me. Aw, shucks.
I was curious about his massage and wanted to mutually benefit from a trade. I would still love to see BigTallMuscle someday. He sounds like a real sweetheart, although we’ve never met in person. @Becket’s comment sounds fun! Wow
I’d like to add Dann to this list, since he falls into the more mature masseur category. He’s covered elsewhere in the forums, definitely worth a visit. He started filming adult content in addition to his massage and esthetician work, so his availability may be affected by that. Since summer 2023, he travels to film scenes. Great guy, highly recommend.
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37362/
Give these mature men some love. I haven’t seen all of them, but oftentimes they have more experience, patience, and respect than the younger crowd. Sometimes less expensive, although not warranted. It’s a byproduct of overvaluation of youth and looks. For massage, the experience is more important than how the guy looks. You’re face down and/or eyes closed for most of it anyway. These are just generalizations. YMMV.

They were in the Hartford area and I saw them a couple night ago. Great massage and a sensory overload. Their setup in the hotel was good. Really nice guys and their 4 hands were very well coordinated. 

Can you both please PM me (and also include his rates for what you received)? Thanks!

Because of all your positive comments, I booked a last minute appointment with Ronnie this evening. Excellent massage from a handsome mature man!! Highly recommend! Also, the chest was a furry pelt; not shaven. 

We would take good care of him in Ft Lauderdale as well 

Oh my! I've been a huge fan of Dann for years. Nice to see this for when I can't make it to Dallas 😉

Wow, that was...something from Dann. Thanks for the info. And would like to see content from you!

Had my first appointment with a handsome, sexy, fit masseur here in Dallas about a year ago. Although he's been here for a while and has great reviews, I didn't have the inclination to hire him until last spring. I finally scheduled a session and went to his place (nice setup). I always look for a great deep tissue massage first and the erotic second but didn't know what to expect since I found him on Masseurfinder. He said I could undress to my comfort level, so I shucked my clothes and hopped up on his table face-down.
The massage was fantastic; even though he's average height, he's pretty muscular with a great set of hands and could really work out the knots, especially in my back. After he finished, he had me flip over and resumed the massage -- calves, feet, thighs, torso, etc. He also lightly worked my groin area (and I immediately got hard), but I kept my hands to myself since he had given no indication of how I should respond. Toward the end of the massage, before I knew it, he leaned over and started giving me a fantastic blow job, then took off his shorts and revealed a monster cock -- thick, meaty, and heavy, with low hangers. I blew my load pretty quickly, and he swallowed it all. I've been back twice (took a break to get fully vaccinated), and both sessions were the same -- except that's he added an electronic massager to work over my shaft and sack. Yowza! 

Thanks! I saw him before I saw your post and agree -- nothing incredible but nothing awful. At least I didn't have an audience for mine, LOL.
 
Thanks! I thought about following up with Tyler to see if he received my first text because a) sometimes they don't go through, and b) I was leery of seeing someone who didn't have any reviews. Glad I waited -- DallasJayson gave me the feedback I was looking for.

Dann is one of the recommendations I made! He's great!

Dann is one of the recommendations I made! He's great!

Agree on what @starman05 said.  I actually have a short list of these masseurs now — great therapeutic massage (but with extras and more for some).  
Though the human connection sometimes urges me to see if friendships can be made outside the massage session, I stop myself. point blank. Period.  Also had that “biggest mistake” moment since it was “friendship-ing” - on his personal time - a RMasseur masseur for a considerable lenght of time. Long story kept short.  lol.  Are we talking about the same masseur?
I sometimes just visit the local Thai Spa aunties for a therapeutic massage instead of going searching on the many male massage sites.  

The way you clearly spell out your pricing is great -- very much appreciated. Your peers could learn from you!

I had a good deep tissue session recently, so I'm good from that aspect.

All his reviews sound good. Only thing I noticed on his ad is he lists just one year of experience and only sensual or erotic massages offered. So if you were really looking for a top notch massage it might not live up to what you want.

I have an incall on Saturday with a traveling masseur who keeps his pricing simple: $160 for 60 minutes, $200 for 90 -- no upcharge, no price change from his home city, etc. That's very refreshing and easy to understand. He does tack on a charge for an outcall, whether he's at home or traveling, which I can understand. 

I have an incall on Saturday with a traveling masseur who keeps his pricing simple: $160 for 60 minutes, $200 for 90 -- no upcharge, no price change from his home city, etc. That's very refreshing and easy to understand. He does tack on a charge for an outcall, whether he's at home or traveling, which I can understand. 

Thanks for the contribution @BeefyDude. Traveling guys are all a little bit different. I agree the pricing should be as transparent as possible, but if they are at least quoting you upfront when you inquire, that should be ok.
Traveling has many costs. Fuel, transportation and accommodations are the big ones, but also the time it takes to travel between cities. For example I had a four city tour last month and was driving all day between each city, and two days for the first stretch. That’s at least 6 days for that tour and those are whole days I am spending considerable $ but not making anything.
In addition to travel costs you’re still paying for all your normal expenses at home like rent/mortgage, utilities, maintenance, etc. We have to charge what makes sense to cover ALL of that AND make a profit above and beyond what we normally make in order for it to make sense to travel. Otherwise, we’re busting our butts and going way out of our way for the same or less as we would get working out of our home cities. Has to make economic sense!
For my last trip, I tallied my total income minus expenses and it was higher than my average monthly income but not by a huge margin. It basically bought me a week off which I sorely needed after working so hard hustling for 3-4 weeks…and I used that week to move out of state to California, which was not exactly a vacation lol. Frankly I’m not surprised other guys might charge a bit more when they travel. Opportunity is high, but so are the costs.
Ads are a lot to manage when you’re going on a trip. I have at least five different ads plus my personal website. I’m not going to update rates on all of them and then change them right back 1, 2, or 4 weeks later. Meanwhile confusing my home city clients who view my ads at all times whether I am away or at home. I update my travel plans on ads that offer that feature, but not the other stuff.
I don’t change my rates when I travel. The main benefit is that I’m booked back to back every hour of every day when I am in another city. I charge the same but do more volume than I do on an average day in my home city. It’s quite exhausting working 13+ hour days one after the other after the other, but it can be great for a short stretch. Some guys change what they charge to cover travel expenses and/or adjust for a different market, whether that be higher or lower pricing.
I can’t replicate my incall experience when I travel but I get as close to it as possible. I’m in the minority in that regard. I refuse to book hotel rooms because they are so impersonal and almost always lack the space I need to set up a table and move around it freely. I refuse to give crappy bed massages. I need a table to provide a proper massage. And I’m not paying for a suite $$$.
So…I rent AirBnBs and set up in a manner as close as possible to my home setup. I bring a towel warmer, stone heater, extra large table, all my own linens, aromatherapy, products, speakers, waters, cleaning and laundry stuff, and everything you could think of. And I have access to a washer and dryer. I can’t understand how the hotel guys do it. If you’re giving multiple massages per day, that means you’re re-using dirty linens! 
If you ask me, you’re getting a killer deal considering my prices are the same and yet I’m doing a lot more and spending a lot more to make an excellent massage experience available to a client in another city.
If a masseur quotes you something a little bit more when he’s traveling, have some grace. If it’s too much, decline and move on. It shouldn’t be outrageous. A nominal upcharge is not that crazy, especially if the masseur’s regular rates are reasonable to begin with AND he delivers a high quality experience. If he’s charging 200+ for “massage only” I have no pity. If he’s charging 120-160 or possibly less (per hour), I find that pretty reasonable. 
My pair of pennies.

I stay very busy, and my costs are only going up. Taxes, general costs of living, and business expenses are all higher in California than in Texas. I will also be commuting daily from my home to a business location, about 45 mins each way (vs living on site in TX).
Nobody is happy about higher prices, no matter how slight, and I know only a percentage of the market is interested in hiring me at any price - BUT let’s say you were a client interested in hiring me. What do you think about the proposed changes below?
I’m particularly interested in your opinion if you are located in the San Diego area.
Proposed Pricing:
Massage
$80 / 30 min (vs $75) 
$150 / 60 min (vs $140)
$210 / 90 min (vs $195)
$260 / 120 min (vs $240)
^add to any massage:
  $40 / 15 min hot stones (vs $35)
 
Body Care
$50 / 30 min body scrub (vs $45)
$70 / 45 min body trimming (vs $65)
(body sculpting removed from menu)
 
Cuddle Therapy
$80 / 30 min (vs $65)
$150 / 60 min (vs $120)
 
Full Service (no change)
$300 / hr
$500 / two hours
 
Escort Service (no change)
$1,000 / five hours
$2,000 / overnight
$5,000 / weekend or (2) days
$1,000 / additional day after (2) days
$10,000 / week
 
Notes:
Escort service is all inclusive; companionship, massage/spa, and full service, any combination.
Massage pricing is consistent for therapeutic, sensual, and erotic style massages. 

well I reached out with an email a few days ago, haven't heard back.

Yes, they can -- I keep all my positive and negative feedback where it's easily accessible to copy and paste!

I've also had positive experiences with Dann, Ronnie, and Carlos. 
You'd have to look into how close the following are to downtown, but I would also recommend the following: 
Tristan
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36082/
Jayden
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/41843/

Wow, he's carrying around a handful.  Curious what recent clients have to say too.